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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #390 on: September 21, 2024, 04:26:46 PM »
One-sided U18s GF. Game over at quarter time as the Sandy Dragons cruised to a 37-point win to make it 3 flags in a row.

Sandringham Dragons   6.1     11.3    14.5    16.7-103
GWV Rebels                  0.0      2.2      6.3    10.6-66

Goals:
Dragons: Armstrong 4, Ashcroft 3, Buck 2, Marshall 2, Surkitt 2, Reid, Sulzberger, Travers.
Rebels: Burmeister 2, Byrne 2, Mast 2, Hannaford, McDonald, Moran, Unwin.


Marshall   28 disp (17k, 11h), 5m, 3t, 7in50,    -   , 2g, 1b. ........ named BOG.
Ashcroft   27 disp (18k,   9h), 8m, - , 7in50, 3re50, 3g.
Kirkwood-
Scott        21 disp (21k,   0h), 10m, 1t, 4in50, 8re50.
Armstrong  8 disp (  6k,   2h), 5m, 3t, 1in50,    -     , 4g, 1b.


Hannaford 23 disp (16k,  7h), 2m, 8t, 6in50, 2re50, 1g, 1b.
Ough        21 disp (  9k, 12h), 7m, 4t, 2in50,   -    ,  -  , 1b.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #391 on: September 21, 2024, 04:30:09 PM »
Murphy Reid has just gone off injured (knee?) in the U18s GF. Don't know how bad.

from what I’ve been told he’s avoided an ACL, tests are surrounding a more contact based injury.

definitely doesn’t officially rule it [ACL] out, but the fact it’s not their main priority is something positive. do unfortunately think it rules him out of the combine.


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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #392 on: September 21, 2024, 08:21:39 PM »
Marshall lions academy player, Ashcroft lions f/s player?

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #393 on: September 22, 2024, 04:00:40 PM »
Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

Remember, this is a ranking of the best prospects and does not take into account where bids on father-son or Academy players will come or where the players will necessarily get selected.

1. Levi Ashcroft           18/12/2006    179cm   Midfielder                    Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
2. Harvey Langford      15/03/2006    190cm    Midfielder                  Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (+1)
3. Jagga Smith            28/01/2006    181cm    Midfielder                  Oakleigh Charges/Vic Metro (-1)
4. Finn O'Sullivan        30/05/2006     182cm   Midfielder                  Oakleigh Charges/Vic Country
5. Murphy Reid            30/07/2006    180cm    Midfielder/Forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
6. Sam Lalor               30/08/2006    187cm    Midfielder                  GWV Rebels/Vic Country (+3)
7. Josh Smillie             17/05/2006    194cm   Midfielder                   Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-2)
8. Sid Draper              05/07/2006    180cm    Midfielder                   South Adelaide/SA (-1)
9. Harry Armstrong     14/06/2006    195cm    Tall Forward              Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
10. Alixzander Tauru    16/11/2006   193cm    Tall Defender             Gippsland Power/Vic Country (+10)
11. Tobie Travaglia       26/10/2006    187cm    Defender                  Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country (+2)
12. Bo Allan                16/02/2006    191cm    Midfielder/Defender    Peel Thunder/WA (-1)
13. Leo Lombard         05/10/2006    178cm    Midfielder                  Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies (-1)
14. Isaac Kako             07/03/2006   175cm    Small Forward           Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+1)
15. Taj Hotton             17/06/2006    182cm    Midfielder/Forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
16. Luke Trainor          10/04/2006    194cm    Defender                   Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-6)
17. Joe Berry               18/04/2006   180cm    Small Forward           Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
18. Xavier Lindsay        03/08/2006   183cm    Midfielder                  Gippsland Power/Vic Country (-2)
19. Jobe Shanahan       02/08/2006   194cm    Tall Forward               Bendigo Pioneers/Allies (+2)
20. Jack Whitlock         16/05/2006   200cm    Key Forward              Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-1)
21. Cooper Hynes        28/02/2006    190cm   Midfielder/Forward      Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (-3)
22. Jonty Faull              01/02/2006   195cm    Tall Forward               GWV Rebels/Vic Country  (+1)
23. Sam Marshall         19/01/2006    185cm   Midfielder                   Brisbane Lions Academy/Allies (+1)
24. Jesse Dattoli           07/07/2006   179cm     Forward/midfielder     Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+5)
25. Matt Whitlock         16/05/2006   199cm  Key Forward/Defender  Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+3)
26. Alex Dodson           15/06/2006   203cm    Ruckman                   Sturt/SA (-4)
27. Tom Gross             15/09/2006    181cm   Midfielder/Forward      Oakleigh Charges/Vic Metro (-1)
28. Christian Moraes     08/11/2006   183cm    Midfielder                  Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-3)
29. Harrison Oliver       15/06/2006    181cm    Defender                  Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-2)
30. Oliver Hannaford    01/09/2006    180cm    Small Forward            GWV Rebels/Vic Country (new)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1222433/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-september-ranking

Dropped out of Top 30

Thomas Sims          12/05/2006   199cm    Tall Forward               Northern Knights/Vic Metro (from #30 in August)
Noah Mraz              20/02/2006   198cm  Tall Defender/Forward   Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (from #30 in July)

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide July extra: The next best

Jasper Alger                 17/12/2006   182cm       Forward                  Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
Ned Bowman                12/09/2006   186cm       Forward                  Norwood/SA
Ben Camporeale           21/07/2006   186cm       Midfielder                Glenelg/SA
Angus Clarke                08/05/2006   188cm       Defender                 Glenelg/SA
Adrian Cole                  05/01/2006   195cm       Tall defender            Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
Josh Dolan                  11/11/2006   177cm      Midfielder/forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
Charlie Nicholls            08/06/2006   197cm   Tall forward/defender   Central District/SA
Harry O'Farrell             03/05/2006   196cm       Tall defender            Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Logan Smith                24/09/2006   204cm       Ruckman                 GWS Academy/Allies

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1179982/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-july-extra-the-10-next-best

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #394 on: September 22, 2024, 04:16:44 PM »
September 2024 Draft Power Rankings: New No. 1 as finals bolters shake up order

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1. Jagga Smith (August ranking: 2)

Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

MID, 181cm

National Champs: 4 games, 29.3 disposals, 6.8 clearances, 4.8 marks

Talent League: 12 games, 33.8 disposals, 7.9 clearances, 0.6 goals

Jagga rises to the spot he entered 2024 at -- No. 1. He's the 'can't miss' prospect of the draft, an inside midfielder with insatiable appetite for the contest. He's brilliantly creative, intelligently snaking into pockets of space and releasing outside runners before hitting the turbo to stay involved in transition. It means Smith gets a lot of the ball and attracts a lot of opposition attention. He is this draft's Zak Butters, fighting out of his weight division but never losing a bout. That includes a rich vein of form at VFL level, averaging 27 disposals and six clearances for Richmond. Smith offers huge leadership potential after captaining club and state, and has a draft range cemented inside the top five after a supremely consistent campaign.

Best traits similar to: Zak Butters


2. Sid Draper (1)

South Adelaide/South Australia

MID, 182cm

2024 Champs: 4 games, 21.0 disposals, 3.8 clearances, 2.8 marks

SANFL: 6 games, 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 6.2 tackles

Draper was arguably South Adelaide's best player at SANFL level to end the season. He offered shades of Jason Horne-Francis in the Panthers guernsey when accelerating from stoppage and driving the ball deep inside 50. Draper is more of a stoppage savant than a forward-half game-changer, though, adept at winning ground balls and stepping out of congestion with explosive dash. His stoppage craft and ability to hurt the opposition in space makes Draper a safe prospect with a huge ceiling, and he's allayed any questions on defensive intent with gritty performances against men.

Best traits similar to: Chad Warner


3. Levi Ashcroft (5) - Brisbane Father-Son

Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro

MID, 179cm

The Lions will snare another top talent in the younger brother of Will.

Best traits similar to: Caleb Serong



4. Finn O'Sullivan (3)

Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country

MID, 182cm

National Champs: 2 games, 11.5 disposals, 1.5 marks, 3.5 tackles

Talent League: 4 games, 17.2 disposals, 3.0 clearances, 1.2 goals

O'Sullivan endured a host of tribulations in 2024. Through injury and form slumps he's struggled to attain any consistency and his campaign ended with a disappointing preliminary final exit on the weekend. Despite it all, there's no doubt what O'Sullivan could become at the next level. He's an excellent aerialist for a midfielder and a bounding runner, covering huge ground either on-ball or off a wing. O'Sullivan loves to get forward to hit the scoreboard and offers one of the highest upsides in the draft, but it's a level that he hasn't shown for 12 months now.

Best traits similar to: Isaac Heeney


5. Leo Lombard (4) - Gold Coast Academy

SUNS Academy/Allies

MID/FWD, 178cm

Best traits similar to: Jordan De Goey



6. Sam Lalor (6)

GWV Rebels/Vic Country

MID/FWD, 187cm

National Champs: 3 games, 11.0 disposals, 5.0 marks, 1.3 goals

Talent League: 4 games, 23.0 disposals, 6.2 clearances, 5.8 marks

Lalor's season ended how it began, on the sidelines due to injury. This time it was a serious hamstring injury that will see him miss the Rebels' grand final and combine testing. Before that, Lalor was starting to show him powerful ball-winning qualities, routinely ripping the ball from stoppage, shaking defenders with a flick of his strong hips and driving the ball inside 50 with a penetrating right boot. His point of difference is his forward work in one-on-ones -- Lalor averaged a contested mark every outing as a midfielder in the CTL and 1.3 as a forward for Country. It's tough to place Lalor any higher given his lack of output and testing results, but it won't stop clubs considering in the first handful of selections.

Best traits similar to: Christian Petracca


7. Xavier Lindsay (9)

Gippsland Power/Vic Country

MID, 183cm

National Champs: 3 games, 22.7 disposals, 4.3 clearances, 6.7 marks

Talent League: 12 games, 23.4 disposals, 5.4 clearances, 0.6 goals

Lindsay offers the speed, running power and kicking skills that clubs search far and wide for. He's a balanced midfielder that led from the front for Gippy all the way until a PCL injury to his knee ended his campaign prematurely. Clubs have seen enough to rate him accordingly, though. His deft touch and ball use at full tilt is a joy to watch, and he was becoming an increasingly damaging forward-half player. He may not crack the top 10 on draft night, but Lindsay is as likely as anyone in the pool to play 300 AFL games.

Best traits similar to: Josh Kelly


8. Tobie Travaglia (8 )

Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country

DEF, 187cm

National Champs: 4 games, 21.8 disposals, 6.2 marks, 8.2 intercepts

Talent League: 12 games, 23.6 disposals, 6.4 tackles, 0.9 goals

Travaglia is an obsessive competitor, able to perform in all three areas of the ground with maniacal pressure and hard running. Despite his slender frame, he became an excellent inside midfielder late in the season where he laid 6.4 crunching tackles and swooped on 4.2 hardball gets per game. He also created goals out of open play up forward. He looks most accustomed down back, though, where he was the champs' leading intercept marker and loved to dash up the ground to link play. Travaglia is a neat kick without being an elite ball user -- it's the one area of his game that could improve.

Best traits similar to: Will Day



9. Harvey Langford (10)

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country

MID, 190cm

National Champs: 25.5 disposals, 6.2 clearances, 6.2 marks

Talent League: 15 games, 25.9 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.3 goals

Langford may have claim to be the best performed prospect in the country. He took a share in the Larke Medal with Lombard and should be favourite for the CTL best and fairest, to be awarded Wednesday night. The hulking midfielder racks up the ball on the inside and outside of contest, routinely gets forward to kick goals with his booming left leg and can take big grabs around the ground. It's an enticing package that deservedly sees him getting top five consideration. But Langford also has some deficiencies -- he lacks the speed of the top rung of midfielders in these rankings and needs to trim down for the next level. There's every chance Langford becomes a top tier AFL midfielder, but it may take time.

Best traits similar to: Jordan Dawson


10. Josh Smillie (7)

Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro

MID, 194cm

National Champs: 4 games, 18.8 disposals, 5.8 clearances, 3.5 tackles

Talent League: 12 games, 25.5 disposals, 4.8 clearances, 1.3 goals

Smillie fits the new-age midfield prototype, a 6'4 contested beast equipped to dominate stoppage and punch long kicks to gain meterage. He's had patches of commanding performances where he looks simply uncontainable bullocking through contact. But he hasn't shown enough around the ground, taking just one contested mark across his 16 champs and CTL games and only using the ball at 62%. There is so much upside in what Smillie can be at the next level, but the flags are there for clubs to consider.

Best traits similar to: Tom Green


11. Harry Armstrong (13)

Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro

FWD, 195cm

National Champs: 3 games, 9.0 disposals, 5.0 marks, 3.0 goals

Talent League: 9 games, 10.1 disposals, 3.3 marks, 2.6 goals

Armstrong is close to the consensus key forward in the pool at this late stage. He's come with a rush, platforming himself at the champs where he led Vic Metro's goalkickers and showed off a clunking contested grab with routine. He's a dead-eye in front of goals too, kicking 9.3 in the champs and 23.9 in the CTL. Armstrong's school coach likens him to Jeremy Cameron with his freewheeling left boot, but Armstrong has shown limitations up the ground when ball hits the deck. His strongest trait is clearly his contested marking and it could see him taken inside the top five on draft night.

Best traits similar to: Aaron Naughton


12. Luke Trainor (11)     - Best traits similar to: Jordan Ridley
13. Joe Berry (12)         - Best traits similar to: Dylan Moore
14. Jobe Shanahan (16) - Best traits similar to: Jacob van Rooyen
15. Isaac Kako (15) - Essendon NGA
16. Murphy Reid (18)     - Best traits similar to: Gryan Miers
17. Bo Allan (17)           - Best traits similar to: Elliot Yeo
18. Taj Hotton (14)        - Best traits similar to: Harry Sheezel
19. Kayle Gerreyn (21)   - Best traits similar to: Riley Thilthorpe
20. Jack Whitlock (24)    - Best traits similar to: Ben King
21. Alex Dodson (20)      - Best traits similar to: Tim English
22. Jonty Faull (28)        - Best traits similar to: Brody Mihocek
23. Alix Tauru                - Best traits similar to: Ollie Henry
24. Cooper Hynes (22)   - Best traits similar to: Sam Powell-Pepper
25. Hamish Davis (26)    - Best traits similar to: Will Hayward
26. Jesse Dattoli            - Best traits similar to: Josh Rachele
27. Ollie Hannaford        - Best traits similar to: Kai Lohmann
28. Christian Moraes (19) - Best traits similar to: Elijah Hollands
29. Sam Marshall (25) - Brisbane Academy
30. James Barrat             - Best traits similar to: Josh Battle

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/41295627/afl-draft-power-rankings-september-2024-jagga-smith-levi-ashcroft-sid-draper-sam-lalor

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #395 on: September 22, 2024, 05:39:01 PM »
Slowcoach Clangerford similar to Dawson...lmao..... :propeller
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #396 on: September 22, 2024, 07:30:39 PM »
And our Recruiters will just pick some skinny back flanker to prove they know more than everyone else , I still think of how Hawthorn picked buddy and roughy and built a premiership side around them , and who did we pick🫣

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #397 on: September 22, 2024, 08:04:56 PM »
People forget at the time that Deledio was so far beyond anyone else at Pick 1.

Deledio was an elite player. Nobody was taking Franklin at 1 let alone Roughead who was a huge bolter at the time.

Tambling also was predicted and highly rated at clear number 2. Again everyone was convinced we had a steal based of junior ratings.

People also forgot that Richo was 28 at this time, Ben Holland was 25 and Jay Schultz was coming through as 18/19yo. Sometimes your list needs dictate who you draft. KPF wasn't anywhere near as big a need as midfielders as we had aging Campbell, and Cameron. We also had Bowden who at 24 hadn't been moved down back yet and played around half forward. Rogers, Pettifer and Hilton rounded  out our forward line. We needed mids. Unfortunately Pick 4 didn't develop as well as we thought at Pick 5 ended up kicking 1000 goals. Hindsight is wonderful.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #398 on: September 22, 2024, 08:41:10 PM »
Too late to redraft Liam McBean after kicking 7 in the SANFL GF?

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #399 on: September 22, 2024, 09:32:49 PM »
Too late to redraft Liam McBean after kicking 7 in the SANFL GF?

SANFL, WAFL or VFL is his level

AFL is not.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #400 on: September 22, 2024, 10:09:03 PM »
Too late to redraft Liam McBean after kicking 7 in the SANFL GF?

SANFL, WAFL or VFL is his level

AFL is not.

If Chol is still on a list & playing in finals then there's no reason Beanie can't be...and both are better than Koshitski.... :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #401 on: September 23, 2024, 12:09:29 PM »
Big part of me enjoyed Werribee TIGERS win the VFL flag.

With Naismith going and no decent back up for Nank. We'd be crazy not to seriously consider Aiden Johnson from Werribee.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #402 on: September 23, 2024, 12:57:07 PM »
Some People forget , we were picking Roughhead after Lids , Dumb asees announced it and also said we wouldn’t take Franklin and Hawthorn played like morons.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #403 on: September 23, 2024, 05:24:23 PM »
Too late to redraft Liam McBean after kicking 7 in the SANFL GF?

SANFL, WAFL or VFL is his level

AFL is not.

What level was Naismith then? I don't recall a whole heap pushing back on that stupid selection.



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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #404 on: September 23, 2024, 06:38:26 PM »
Too late to redraft Liam McBean after kicking 7 in the SANFL GF?

SANFL, WAFL or VFL is his level

AFL is not.

What level was Naismith then? I don't recall a whole heap pushing back on that stupid selection.

Same as McBean

I would think that no other Club has bothered drafting him despite his stellar SANFL form of the last few seasons tell the story IMHO
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