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« Reply #435 on: October 05, 2024, 02:52:50 PM »
The next Dusty, ‘Rubber Man’, and a match-winner with Iraqi heritage: The stars of a wide-open AFL draft

By Marc McGowan
The Age
October 5, 2024


Welcome to the most wide-open race to be the AFL’s No.1 draft pick since the Brisbane Lions made Cam Rayner the dux of the 2017 class seven years ago. Five players have a case to be the first name called out, although Richmond – who will make that decision – appear to be zeroing in on two, according to rival recruiters.

Here are our top 30 draft prospects for this year after discussions with recruiters or list bosses at 12 of the 18 clubs, as the best teenage footballers prepare to be tested and quizzed at the annual combine this weekend. These rankings are starting to factor in where clubs will pick (particularly in the top 10), which players are being linked to them, and how the draft is likely to change in the trade period, but is otherwise a talent order.

1. Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Midfielder/forward, 187cm, 30/8/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23 disposals, 6.3 clearances, 6 inside 50s
The Age’s August top 30: No.5
The next Dustin Martin could be on his way to Tigerland. Most recruiters who spoke to this masthead believe Richmond are weighing up Lalor or Finn O’Sullivan at No.1. Many non-Richmond talent scouts also rank Lalor that highly despite a serious hamstring injury ending his season amid a severely interrupted campaign. They are confident he will get on top of his physical issues in a full-time AFL environment, and with improved fitness. Lalor’s combination of power, physicality, kicking skills, game-changing ability and penchant for impacting the game as a midfielder and forward make him a closer projection to Martin than Christian Petracca.

2. Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 179cm, 18/12/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 30.8 disposals, 5.3 clearances, 1.3 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 2
Ashcroft will join his Norm Smith Medal-winning brother Will at Brisbane, and may even attract a bid at No.1. That owes to his strong body of work across the past two years, including being a back-to-back under-18 All-Australian. Richmond have interviewed Ashcroft since he announced he would be a father-son selection. He will need to bide his time to break into Brisbane’s on-ball rotation, but he is more than capable of being a contributor at half-forward initially. Ashcroft’s rare mix of high-level talent and ultra professionalism should enable him to make an instant impact in 2025. He won’t test at the combine because he is recovering from shoulder surgery.

3. Alix Tauru
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Tall defender, 191cm, 16/11/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.5 disposals, 3.7 intercept marks, 7.3 intercept possessions
The Age’s August top 30: 19
What a rise for Tauru, from virtual unknown in the pre-season to potential top-three pick, if defender-needy North Melbourne take the leap, as some think they might. Recruiters are enamoured with the courage he shows flying for marks, his athleticism, aggression and instinctual play, and his upside. Tauru is most highly rated as an intercept defender, but also played up forward and as a defensive midfielder. There is risk involved in picking Tauru, with his most common draft range seen as 5-12, with several recruiters rating him as an ideal selection for clubs with multiple first-round picks. This would be the ultimate swing-for-the-fence selection.

4. Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 181cm, 28/1/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 33.8 disposals, 13.9 contested possessions, 7.9 clearances
The Age’s August top 30: 1
Smith made every post a winner this past season and was our No.1 prospect two months ago. He remains the most bust-proof selection – some compare picking him to Sam Walsh in 2018 – and the team that drafts him will gain a gun midfielder for the next 15 years. He is a genius at winning the ball in contested situations and escaping from tight spots at stoppages, putting his agility to great use, then almost always finds a teammate. Smith had a 50-disposal game in the under-18 league, and won 31, with 18 contested possessions, in his VFL debut for Richmond. The general view is that he is, perhaps, not as talented or damaging as some in this range.

5. Harvey Langford
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
Midfielder, 190cm, 15/3/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 25.9 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.3 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 11
Alongside Smith and Ashcroft, Langford was the most consistently excellent performer this year. He was seen more as a top-30 prospect before the championships, but has shot up draft boards by continually playing well. The co-Larke medallist is big by midfield standards, can play various positions, is a good mark, hits the scoreboard regularly, works hard off the ball, and physically handled the step-up to VFL in a cameo with the Tigers. Some recruiters would be prepared to take him at No.1. There are still queries on his speed and decision-making at times – particularly his kicking inside 50 – but there is no argument with his output.

6. Isaac Kako
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Forward, 175cm, 7/3/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 18.7 disposals, 1.7 goals, 7.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 12
Essendon may need to match a high opposition bid on their NGA prospect, with Melbourne strongly considering the dangerous small forward – or are they playing games with the Bombers? Either way, Kako, whose parents were born in Iraq, is considered a top-10 lock after a brilliant national under-18 championships. There should be no hesitation taking a sub-180cm goalsneak with Kako’s ability this high after Nick Watson’s impressive debut season. Kako is powerful, and has a knack for creating scoring opportunities and kicking audacious goals from seemingly hopeless situations. He can improve defensively, but can impact the game beyond the forward 50.

7. Finn O’Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 182cm, 30/5/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 17.3 disposals, 5.3 inside 50s, 1.3 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 3
In contention at No.1, but falling to No.7? This promises to be a wild draft, but it definitely feels uncomfortable ranking O’Sullivan here, after a potential Melbourne bid on Kako. He has long been on recruiters’ radars, winning best player honours at the 2022 under-16 championships and being an under-18 All-Australian last year. O’Sullivan has dealt with a series of setbacks this year that prevented him from playing at his best, but there are recruiters who rate him as the most talented player in the pool. O’Sullivan appears to have more time than most, is a strong runner, and adjusts quickly when his first option is shut down. His marking is a strength, and he is a goalkicker with few flaws.

8. Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 194cm, 17/5/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 25.5 disposals, 11.3 contested possessions, 4.8 clearances
The Age’s August top 30: 4
This selection will be in Richmond’s hands once they trade Dan Rioli to Gold Coast, and the Tigers are bullish on Smillie, who has been likened to Patrick Cripps, despite him not meeting expectations this year. There was No.1 hype about him early in the year, but a moderate championships display hurt his stock. Some recruiters believe Smillie’s best position is at half-back – querying his running ability and impact below his knees – whereas others view him as a big-bodied midfielder who can go forward. His performances this year may not match the Langfords and Smiths, but this is a pick for the future and what Smillie might become. He is tall, strong and has good skills, so there is potential here.

9. Leo Lombard
GC Suns Academy/Allies
Midfielder, 178cm, 5/10/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 24.7 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 5.7 clearances
The Age’s August top 30: 14
If St Kilda president Andrew Bassat’s criticism of the draft system was any gauge, the Saints might be the club to place a bid on Lombard. That is certainly the tip in recruiting ranks. Lombard, who shared the Larke Medal at the championships with Langford after an outstanding carnival, buzzes around stoppages and his power and ball-winning talents are sure to be a great addition to the Suns’ midfield. He is often compared to fellow Gold Coast academy product Jake Rogers, the No.14 pick last year. The knock on Lombard – who played in the Suns’ 2023 VFL premiership as a 16-year-old – is that he could be tidier with his disposals, but he is a contested beast.

10. Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
Midfielder, 180cm, 5/7/2006
SANFL seniors stats (avg): 22.2 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 6.2 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 6
There are Draper admirers higher than this, including West Coast, so the dual under-18 All-Australian may be snapped up long before this. A shin stress injury put him on the back foot from the start this year, but his renowned work ethic helped him make it back in time to compete at the championships. Draper boasts good midfield craft and ball-winning ability, as well as the power to burst out of stoppages. He finished the season well at SANFL senior level, which was another tick for his top-10 candidacy. However, Draper’s kicking skills and decision-making are considered a tad below some of the best midfielders in this crop.

11. Harry Armstrong
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Tall forward, 195cm, 14/6/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 9.9 disposals, 4.5 marks, 2.7 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 8
The consensus best key forward in the 2024 group, Armstrong might even be the third player to head to Richmond, if this is the pick the Tigers snare from Fremantle for Shai Bolton. Essendon great Matthew Lloyd, who coached Armstrong at Haileybury, is one of many people who believe the left-footed goalkicker has a bit of Jeremy Cameron about him. His five-goal performance against Vic Country in the championships finale, including a towering grab between two opponents in the dying stages, helped seal his status as a potential top-10 selection. Armstrong is another who recruiters raised mid-year as a possible No.1 pick contender, and has the speed and endurance to roam further afield.

12. Tobie Travaglia
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
Defender/midfielder, 187cm, 26/10/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.6 disposals, 11.6 contested possessions, 6.4 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 13
There is a lot of love within recruiting ranks for Travaglia, whose competitiveness, versatility, reliability and running ability are set to make him a valuable addition, wherever he lands. In an even group, he could even be taken inside the top 10 – and some clubs rank him there. Travaglia projects initially as a defender, where he thrives in one-on-one contests, or wingman, but there is confidence he might be able to eventually develop into an inside midfielder. He earned All-Australian honours, made a VFL appearance for Carlton late in the year, and part of the excitement about him is how much he improved this past season. He has a connection to West Coast via Harley Reid and Tom Cole.

13. Xavier Lindsay
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Midfielder, 183cm, 3/8/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.4 disposals, 5.4 clearances, 5.2 inside 50s
The Age’s August top 30: 10
Another one with plenty of admirers, Lindsay’s high football IQ, calm temperament, strong work ethic and excellent skills make him a certain first-round selection. He’s routinely discussed as being on the top-10 bubble, and recruiters often point to his 30-disposal game in Country’s narrow loss to Metro as his statement performance in what is considered the “game of the year”. He can play inside and outside midfield roles, or even be used at half-back, where his silky left boot can do damage, even if he makes the odd wrong choice. A knee injury prematurely ended Lindsay’s season, but he has enough runs on the board to be an early selection.

14. Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Tall defender, 194cm, 10/4/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 19.8 disposals, 2.4 intercept marks, 6 intercept possessions
The Age’s August top 30: 7
Trainor unfortunately missed Sandringham’s grand final triumph with a concussion and did not finish the season as strongly as he started it, but he is one of this year’s best key defensive prospects. He has also proven he can kick goals and make his presence felt when playing in attack, too, which only adds to his value. Recruiters would have liked to see Trainor spend more time playing on an opponent – and there is a query on his ability to play deep in defence – but his intercepting prowess will translate wonderfully to the AFL. Another of Trainor’s strengths is his willingness to take the game on with his kicking.

15. Joe Berry
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 18/4/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.4 disposals, 1.9 goals, 6.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 16
Berry is going to make one club very happy. This pick will likely be in West Coast’s hands as part of the Tom Barrass trade to Hawthorn. The Bushie enjoyed an excellent under-18 championships and was a regular goalkicker in the Talent League and for Vic Country. Berry’s speed, endurance and agility not only make him ideal for a high half-forward role in the AFL, but many recruiters believe he could also graduate to, or spend time on, a wing. He uses his running ability to good effect, often working back into defence to offer his support. Berry’s sharp left-footed kicking skills round out an impressive package.

16. Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons
Midfielder/forward, 182cm, 17/6/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 15
One of the hard-luck stories of this year’s draft after an ACL rupture at training ended his season in May, Hotton’s form was so incredible in the early stages of the year that he was tracking to be a top-10 pick. There is less likelihood of that because of his knee injury and the heightened risk of a recurrence, but he is so promising that it would not be a shock if someone took the punt that early. The son of ex-Pie and Blue Trent, Hotton is athletically gifted, has a great leap, can play in the midfield or up forward, and his rate of improvement bodes well for the future. St Kilda drafted Hotton’s brother Olli two years ago.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #436 on: October 05, 2024, 02:53:02 PM »
17. Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
Tall forward, 194cm, 2/8/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 12.9 disposals, 8.5 contested possessions, 2.1 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 21
Shanahan sits behind only Armstrong among tall forwards in the thoughts of most recruiters. He kicked 11 goals in a highly impressive three-game stretch for Essendon’s VFL team before returning to the Pioneers and putting six more through the big sticks. Shanahan is a good kick – including set shots – marks the Sherrin well, and his athleticism enables him to create separation and work up and down the ground. He has also shown that he can play as a defender, too, although that is now seen more as a bonus than where his future lies. As with many young key forwards, there is a question mark on Shanahan’s competitiveness.

18. Murphy Reid
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Midfielder/forward, 181cm, 30/7/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 25.1 disposals, 10.3 contested possessions, 4.1 clearances
The Age’s August top 30: 17
There is a chance that Reid’s football smarts, game awareness, skills and super-quick decision-making will convince a club to grab him earlier than this. However, most recruiters who spoke to this masthead rated him in this range of the draft because of his lack of height and leg speed. They believe he is more likely to make his AFL living mostly as a forward rather than a midfielder. Reid won a season-low eight disposals in the Talent League grand final, but was mostly stellar throughout the season, including winning Metro’s MVP award and earning All-Australian selection.

19. Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
Defender/midfielder, 191cm, 16/2/2006
WAFL seniors stats (avg): 11.5 disposals, 3.9 contested possessions, 3.3 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 9
Allan was considered a likely top-10 pick but has slid down some clubs’ draft order while spending the second half of the season playing against senior competition. There are recruiters who still rank him inside the top 15, raving about his athleticism, power, speed and leadership. Allan has also proven he can perform a lockdown role. Of greatest consequence to his draft standing is what talent scouts project him to be at AFL level, which could dictate where he is drafted. Some believe WA’s top prospect can develop into a big-bodied midfielder, whereas others think he will remain mostly at half-back or as a third tall. There is also a query on his kicking.

20. Ollie Hannaford
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 1/9/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 16.7 disposals, 9.5 contested possessions, 1.2 goals
The Age’s August top 30: N/A
Tauru might be the draft’s biggest bolter, but Hannaford improved his draft stock as much as anyone in the final two months of the season. He did not earn a national combine call-up despite his stellar finish, but will still test at the Victorian equivalent. Hannaford’s mid-season switch to the forward line changed the trajectory of his career, with his competitiveness, strength, burst off the mark and goalkicking nous propelling him up draft boards. He kicked 21 goals – including bags of six and five – in his last nine games, as well as recording 16 forward-50 tackles in that period. Hannaford can also provide some impactful midfield minutes.

21. Sam Marshall
Sandringham Dragons/Allies/Brisbane Lions Academy
Midfielder, 185cm, 19/1/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.1 disposals, 5.9 contested possessions, 6.5 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 28
A strong second half of the season, including winning the best-on-ground medal in the Dragons’ Talent League grand final win, means Marshall – who will join the Lions – may attract an earlier bid than first thought. His ceiling is in the teens, but most recruiters who spoke to this masthead believe he will land somewhere in the 20s. Marshall can run two kilometres in under six minutes and puts that rare endurance to great use in games, often doing his best work late when others are tiring. His numbers were better for the Allies than for Sandringham, who have a deep on-ball brigade. Marshall’s critics argue his ball use and decision-making need to improve.

22. Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Tall forward, 200cm, 16/5/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 16.4 disposals, 2.5 F50 marks, 2.1 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 22
The first of the Whitlock twins started the year with 4.4 and seven marks against Tasmania, and produced enough of those types of games throughout the year to remain in the top-20 mix. Clubs covet key-position players at his height, and his athleticism enables him to kick goals in various ways, from set shots to grabbing the ball out of a forward-50 ruck stoppage and out-running key defenders. Whitlock also averaged almost two contested marks per game, playing as a forward-ruck, but there are question marks on his competitiveness.

23. Jonty Faull
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Tall forward, 195cm, 1/2/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 13 disposals, 2.5 goals, 6.7 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 26
Faull is one of several key forwards in our top 30. There is not much between them, and they all offer something a bit different, with recruiters placing them in various orders behind Armstrong. Faull’s physicality, aerial prowess and smart bodywork are what he is known for, along with a powerful kick and knack for kicking goals. He is not as athletic or high leaping as others, but kicked three or more goals in six of his 11 Talent League matches this year after a back injury delayed his season start.

24. Alex Dodson
Sturt/South Australia
Ruckman, 203cm, 15/6/2006
SANFL U18 stats (avg): 20.8 disposals, 12 contested possessions, 7.4 hit-outs-to-advantage
The Age’s August top 30: 20
Dodson is the top ruckman in this year’s draft pool, ahead of GWS academy big man Logan Smith. He represented Australia in basketball at under-18 level and turned down the chance to play for the Adelaide 36ers in the NBL to instead pursue an AFL career. Some recruiters are reluctant to use a top-30 pick on a ruckman, but Dodson has enough interest to find a home in this range. He has plenty to learn, given his limited football exposure, including skipping the 2023 season, but he is athletic, mobile and wins plenty of the ball. He was an All-Australian this year.

25. Jesse Dattoli
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Midfielder/forward, 179cm, 7/8/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.1 disposals, 11 contested possessions, 1.7 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 23
This is the bottom of Dattoli’s draft range, with some recruiters believing he could be selected in the late teens, so impressed were they with his strong finish to the season. It will be a matter of team needs for these clubs. If they want a small over a tall, Dattoli will leapfrog the others. He will bounce between the midfield and forward line at AFL level, just as he did in juniors, with his improved engine, toughness and power making him a force at stoppages. Dattoli’s marking, particularly for someone of his height, helps round out his package in attack, where his accurate set-shot kicking ensures he capitalises on most of his chances.

26. Matt Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Tall forward/defender, 199cm, 16/5/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 14.2 disposals, 5 marks, 1.9 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 29
Unlike his identical twin Jack, Whitlock has demonstrated he can play equally well at both ends of the ground. He started the year in defence, where he put his height to great use as an interceptor, before swinging forward and producing eight multiple-goal performances. Can improve his kicking, including set shots, and decision-making, but works up the ground to present for teammates, generates a high number of scoring shots, and like Jack, is still dangerous when the ball hits the ground.

27. Cooper Hynes
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Metro
Midfielder/forward, 190cm, 28/2/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.7 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.5 goals
The Age’s August top 30: N/A
Hynes makes his debut in our rankings after an eye-catching season where his powerful and aggressive playing style drew comparisons with ex-North Melbourne captain Jack Ziebell and current Roo Cam Zurhaar. West Coast and Melbourne are two of his biggest fans, but there are other clubs that would not consider him in this draft range. Hynes’ endurance will need to improve if he is to play any meaningful midfield minutes in the AFL, but his forward craft and clearance work are rated highly. He and Langford provided a strong one-two punch for the Stingrays.

28. Tom Gross
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Midfielder/forward, 181cm, 15/9/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 22.3 disposals, 8.3 contested possessions, 6.5 score involvements
The Age’s August top 30: 24
Gross has fans who place him higher than this, but similarly to Hynes, there are others who rate him outside the top 40. He’s constantly on the move at stoppages and makes quick decisions when he wins the Sherrin, often releasing a teammate with a slick handball. Gross also looks natural as a forward, where his underrated overhead marking and smart leading patterns come to the fore. He is not as silky as some of his midfield peers, but his dual-position impact, toughness and acceleration should make him a solid player at the next level.

29. Harrison Oliver
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Defender, 181cm, 15/6/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 15.4 disposals, 5.5 intercept possessions, 2.2 tackles
The Age’s August top 30: 25
A club may jump earlier than this if they want a small defender because Oliver is the best of that type in this draft, illustrated with his All-Australian selection. The left-footer offers a good blend of defence and attack, rarely wastes a possession, and diligently fills his role. Oliver gets into good positions to intercept, is tough and clean at ground level, does not panic under pressure, and his coach Rob Harding referred to him during the season as the heartbeat of the team. His AFL club is unlikely to be disappointed.

30. Christian Moraes
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Midfielder, 183cm, 8/11/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.8 disposals, 4.1 clearances, 1.5 goals
The Age’s August top 30: 18
Could Moraes be the Ashton Moir of this year’s draft? He was once considered a top-10 selection and there are recruiters still enamoured with his level of talent, but the season did not pan out as he might have hoped. The club willing to punt on Moraes’ upside could be richly rewarded, with his role at AFL level likely to be as a winger and high half-forward. He does his best work when the Sherrin is in his hands, and he is considered the top runner in this class. He holds off the likes of Noah Mraz, Thomas Sims and Hamish Davis to be in this slot.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #437 on: October 05, 2024, 05:55:33 PM »
Jeez some bloody handy sliders there..... :shh
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« Reply #438 on: October 05, 2024, 08:25:07 PM »
Our KPF stocks are so effing bad, I would legit do this:

2 mids with 1 + 6 (GCS). Best available idgaf.

All 3, if we can, of Armstrong + Shanahan + Faull with 9 (Freo), 13 (WCE), 16 (Freo).

We will have picks in the 20's also (probably GCS 20 + our 21) so should look at both Whitlocks if the aforementioned 3 are gone + Dodson as a young ruck. We need another development ruck since Ryan is an absolute bust IMO.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #439 on: October 05, 2024, 10:48:37 PM »
That article started off all wrong

There will never be another Dusty

Like there will never be another Carey, Ablett etc

If Lalor and his career with a stupid article saying some kid will “be the next Lalor”, then he’s had an amazing career


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« Reply #440 on: October 06, 2024, 12:31:12 AM »
I really like Lalor, I'm worried about the next Dusty comparisons and being drafted to us, the amount of pressure of expectation this kid will be under.
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« Reply #441 on: October 06, 2024, 01:05:48 AM »
I really like Lalor, I'm worried about the next Dusty comparisons and being drafted to us, the amount of pressure of expectation this kid will be under.

Yep

No next Dusty

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« Reply #442 on: October 06, 2024, 12:15:23 PM »
Load up with midfielders tigers. Get that sorted quickly and we can worry about our key position stocks through free agency. A speculative pick on a ruck might be in order given we have zero prospects on our list
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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« Reply #443 on: October 06, 2024, 02:51:48 PM »
Slowford at 2 lmao... :facepalm

Not sure we're your getting slow from this kid is super talented.

I'm getting it from watching him & seeing that he is slow... :shh

You will be surprised at the combine testing soon.

Bottom 5 in the 20m sprint (3.240)...surprise, surprise.........:shh




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« Reply #444 on: October 06, 2024, 03:27:39 PM »
Slowford at 2 lmao... :facepalm

Not sure we're your getting slow from this kid is super talented.



I'm getting it from watching him & seeing that he is slow... :shh

You will be surprised at the combine testing soon.

Bottom 5 in the 20m sprint (3.240)...surprise, surprise.........:shh

BTW - 4th last to be exact and the three blokes behind him were two ruckmen and 200cm defender who's coming off a year long foot injury. :shh :shh
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« Reply #445 on: October 06, 2024, 06:13:36 PM »
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TALLS IMPRESS IN COMBINE TESTING​
NORTHERN Knights tall forward Gabriel Stumpf caught the eye of scouts on Sunday at the Telstra AFL Draft Combine, recording the equal fifth quickest 20-metre sprint in testing history.
The 196cm prospect proved his athleticism by winning the event with a 2.81 second run. He also won the vertical jumps test with a leap of 76cm and was fifth in the running jump (left hand) test.
Gold Coast Academy product Leo Lombard once again showed his powerful attributes by finishing second in the sprint (2.85 seconds) as well as blitzing the agility test, completing it in 7.812 seconds. That placed the ready-to-go prospect in the sixth best agility time in Combine history.

Rhys Unwin (2.91 seconds), Jasper Alger (2.93) and Malakai Champion (2.94) were also among the quickest in the sprint, while likely top-five pick, midfielder Finn O'Sullivan, won the running jump (left hand) test with a leap of 93cm and was second in the right hand jump at 92cm.
O'Sullivan was also eighth in the agility test (8.14 seconds).
He was beaten in the running jump (right hand) test by Gippsland Power's Alix Tauru, who jumped at 94cm. It marked the end of an impressive Combine for Tauru, who has pushed right into the mix as a top-10 pick with his second half of the season.
Tauru, nicknamed the 'Flying Viking' for his Swedish heritage, was also in the top 10 for the running jump (left hand) and completed the 20-metre sprint in 3.00 seconds.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #446 on: October 06, 2024, 07:02:33 PM »
‘Pretty tight at the top’: Inside the auditions for Richmond’s No.1 draft pick

Marc McGowan
The Age
October 6, 2024


No.1 pick contender Sam Lalor would love to carry on Dustin Martin’s legacy in the No.4 if he becomes a Tiger in next month’s draft, but believes Richmond should retire the club legend’s number.

Lalor is as good a candidate as any to follow in Martin’s footsteps, given he wore the same number for GWV Rebels and Geelong Grammar. His physical style and midfield-forward, one-two punch also draws constant comparisons to the champion Tiger.

“I was pretty lucky that at school footy and the Rebels, they both gave me No.4. I’ve loved it, and it’s my favourite number now,” Lalor told The Age. “It would be a dream come true [to wear Martin’s number at Richmond].”

The Tigers, including list boss Blair Hartley and national recruiting manager Chris Toce, have a titanic call to make with the top selection this year in a strong, but even, draft crop without an obvious No.1 candidate.

Recruiting sources told this masthead they believe Richmond were keen on midfield bull Lalor and richly talented onballer Finn O’Sullivan, but the Tigers also auditioned fellow highly touted prospects Jagga Smith and Harvey Langford in the VFL.

Richmond were one of nine clubs who interviewed Lalor, who is the No.1 prospect in The Age’s latest rankings, at the draft combine in Melbourne on Saturday.

“I really loved the week at Richmond, and the game. I got to spend a few training sessions with the VFL squad, so I had heaps of fun with them,” Langford said.

“I’m a Richmond fan, so it was pretty cool to play with a few of those AFL boys in the VFL. I had some pretty nice moments playing in that game ... coming up against some bigger bodies, I felt pretty comfortable. The speed of the game was another level, but I felt pretty comfortable with that, too.

“It’s pretty tight at the top end of the draft, and they’re not giving away too much, so it will be an interesting decision at the end of the day because there are probably five or six boys [in the mix].”

Smith, who spent time with the Tigers in December last year for his AFL Academy placement, averaged a gaudy 27 disposals, 16 contested possessions and six clearances in three VFL appearances for the yellow and black.

The 18-year-old onballer is an extraordinary ball-winner who thrives in finding gaps where others cannot at crowded stoppages, and would welcome the expectation that comes with being the dux of any draft class.

“If you want to be the best at something; there’s no point not striving to be the No.1 pick,” Smith said.

“That’s something that’s stuck with me. I know there is pressure that comes with that, but I think when I get into the system; people will be around me, helping me through that. To go pick one would be a massive honour, but I also know there are a lot of [other] good players as well.”

O’Sullivan, a popular choice among his peers to be the top choice despite an injury-riddled year, is also on Richmond’s radar.

“I’m fairly lucky having school still because it takes a lot of pressure off, and means you’re not thinking about it too much,” O’Sullivan said. “I just want to go the highest that I can, and if it’s one, it’s one, but if it’s not one, that’s fine.”

Richmond are enamoured with big-bodied midfielder Josh Smillie, too, who hails from Park Orchards, the same club Hartley has coached at for years, including his son’s under-14s team this past season. Smillie, a 195cm midfielder in the Patrick Cripps mould, is another player who has experienced pick one hype.

“Everyone has links, and at the end of the day, whichever club picks me up [will be great] – it’s been a dream ever since I was a kid. I just want to play AFL footy,” Smillie said.

“We’ll see what happens, but it does seem pretty nice to hopefully be a Richmond Tiger. I think what separates me from the others is my uniqueness of being a tall midfielder and pretty versatile, but the pick is just a number.”

In reality, the Tigers could snag two of the above group because they will score Gold Coast’s top selection, which is currently No.6, as at least part of their return in the impending Daniel Rioli trade.

Fellow Richmond stars Shai Bolton and Liam Baker are also set to fetch further first-round selections to seal their respective moves to Fremantle and West Coast, respectively.

The Dockers hold picks 10, 11 and 18 – pushed back by free agency compensation selections handed to St Kilda (No.8) and GWS (No.16) – while Hawthorn’s pick 14 will end up with the Eagles in any Tom Barrass deal, and could be forwarded to Richmond for Baker.

Two of those Fremantle selections might find themselves in the Tigers’ grasp.

The Saints will potentially jump in first with their back-to-back top-10 selections, but key-position talents such as Sandringham teammates Harry Armstrong and Luke Trainor, or Gippsland Power bolter Alix Tauru – if he is available – might be in Richmond’s sights as well.

The opportunity to potentially join the Tigers’ rebuild under Adem Yze at effectively ground level excites Smillie.

“I’d want to walk straight into the club and [make an impact] from day one,” he said.

“I’m a very determined player, and I want the best for myself and everyone around me. There are a lot of highly talented and really good blokes who are here [in the draft], and everyone will have the same mindset of doing that. Just because we’re 18 years of age, it doesn’t mean we can’t change anything.”

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pretty-tight-at-the-top-inside-the-auditions-for-richmond-s-no-1-draft-pick-20241004-p5kg03.html

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #447 on: October 06, 2024, 07:06:13 PM »
The players' No.1 pick

We asked 10 of the best junior players in Australia who they thought (not including themselves) would be taken at No.1 in this year's AFL national draft. Here's what they said.

Jagga Smith - Nominated: Josh Smillie

“When he’s at his best, I think Josh Smillie is the best player in the draft. It’s his ceiling, and what he could be. But if you want a sure player, I think you can go Levi Ashcroft – he’s as good as anyone.”

Isaac Kako - Nominated: Jagga Smith

“He’s really consistent. Someone’s got to do it, and it’s always him. I love watching him play and love playing with him – great player.”

Harry Armstrong - Nominated: Jagga Smith

“I think he’s got the work-rate and attitude, and it comes off in games.”

Alex Dodson - Nominated: Sid Draper

“He’s an extremely hard worker, a great leader, and I think he’s going to forge a really good AFL career.”

Josh Smillie - Nominated: Jagga Smith

“Just his professionalism and the way he goes about it. He’s everything you want in a player as well. You could just see him being the perfect AFL player.”

Jack Whitlock - Nominated: Finn O’Sullivan

“Country boy, he’s just got that resilience about him. He hasn’t had the best year this year with injury, but his talent is through the roof. That was shown through his unreal bottom-age year, and even his 16th year, when he took out the medal as the best player of the championships.”

Matt Whitlock - Nominated: Finn O’Sullivan

“I think it’s going to be hard to pass on him, even though he hasn’t had the best year with injury. I feel like he’s such a special player, and he’s definitely someone who’s going to be a premiership player [in the AFL].”

Sam Lalor - Nominated: Finn O’Sullivan

“I reckon he’s got the highest ceiling. He hasn’t been at his best this year [because of injuries], but when he’s on, he’s the best player.”

Harvey Langford - Nominated: Finn O’Sullivan

“I think he’ll suit a club really well, just with how he’s able to interact with the other boys and get around everyone. He’s a great leader, and an amazing player.”

Finn O'Sullivan - Nominated: Sam Lalor

“I think he should be one. He’d be an awesome fit for Richmond. He’s got a great mindset, and is a really powerful and explosive player. His footy talks for itself, and he’s also a really social person, so he will form some good relationships with coaches and players.”

Source: The Age.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #448 on: October 06, 2024, 07:15:24 PM »
Fos and lalor or fos and Jagga and I’ll be happy

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #449 on: October 06, 2024, 07:16:19 PM »
Joel Cochran (Swans Academy) ran a 6:05 to take out the draft combine 2km, just ahead of Tobie Travaglia and Hamish Davis in the quickest group.

Langford, Smith & O’Sullivan all finished around the 6:25 mark.

Warm and windy afternoon #AFLDraft

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