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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #630 on: October 21, 2024, 11:25:32 PM »
Brown could be the KMac wing replacement

Well he can kick & mark but not sure he can run all day -  Kmac of course is the opposite....for different reasons neither are great defensively or in the contest.... :shh

We need to change our philosophy of wingers who run up and down the tram tracks all day to protect space to offensive weapons which is what Collingwood and even the Lions are doing.
Brown’s leg is already elite and would be valuable as an option of playing wing.

HRS, Pickett, Kmac are no longer options for me as their disposal simply isn’t damaging enough

Not a matter of one or the other - need wingers who can do both...no more arm waving sir runs a lots who can't play....but no smooth movin' millionaires who won't defend, are gassed and go missing after only 3k into the half marathon of modern footy either... :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #631 on: October 22, 2024, 12:20:09 AM »
Cameron Hicks' phantom draft

Starts around 7 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWWYJ-iOONc

n.b. He's got St Kilda trading picks 8 & 9 for North's pick 2.

First round

1. Rich - Sam Lalor ... 188cm explosive midfielder/forward. Did have injury problems early on but his overhead marking, scoreboard impact, tackling power, explosive burst. Start off as a HF as he builds up his tank but mid-career go into centrebounces. Most like: Petracca.

2. Bris - Levi Ashcroft (matched bid)
3. StK - Finn O'Sullivan
4. Carl - Sid Draper
5. Adel - Jagga Smith
6. Melb - Harry Armstrong ... a lock of a pick for them.

7. Rich - Josh Smillie - 194cm midfielder. favourite before Lalor took off. Explosive speed a weak point but can be fixed (look at Patrick Cripps). [Grockadoc responded that he doesn't see us taking Smillie]

8. North - Alix Tauru
9. North - Harvey Langford
10. GC - Leo Lombard (matched bid)
11. Melb - Murphy Reid

12. Rich - Tobie Travaglia ... Will Day 2.0. Versatile. Runs offensively, defensively, good kick. Strength wise not there yet so will start at HB before going into the midfield.

13. Ess - Isaac Kako (matched bid)

14. Rich - Joe Berry .... crafty small forward who consistently hits the goals. Smarts, workrate. Goes quiet in the clutch (last quarter) though. AFL player like: Tom Papley. [Grockadoc responded that a small forward isn't high on our priorities].

15. WCE - Bo Allan
16. Port - Xavier Lindsay
17. GWS - Cooper Hynes
18. GWS - Taj Hotton
19. Bris - Sam Marshall (matched bid)
20. WB - Harrison Oliver

21. Rich - Jobe Shanahan ... 193-194cm KF, kicked bags of 4 multiple times for Essendon, sticky mitts like he's got glue on his hands, light frame so will take time. AFL player most like: Josh Treacy 2.0

22. Syd - Jack Whitlock

23. Rich - Kayle Gerreyn ... 200cm hybrid ruckman from West Perth, Nankervis replacement, agility, excellent goalkick (range 50m).

24. GWS - Tom Gross
25. Syd - Matt Whitlock

26. Rich - Lachie Jaques ... 184cm HBF, elite kick.

Second round

27. Rich - Jonty Faull .... if he's still around and we don't trade the pick.
28. WB - Christian Moraes
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35. StK - Luke Trainor

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Grockadoc reckons:
- Either our pick 23 or 24 (currently) could be traded for a future 2025 pick.
- Sam Davidson likely taken by another club b/w 35-50. Essendon usually like grabbing our VFL players.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #632 on: October 22, 2024, 01:46:33 AM »
Hannaford not even in the top 30....taking 3 talls in a midfield rich draft... Faull still being there at 27 & getting picked after Gerryn.... if any of those things happen let alone all of them then I want that prick's phone number so I can get him to fill out my Powerball ticket for me....:propeller
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #633 on: October 22, 2024, 02:08:48 AM »
Also if Davidson goes anywhere before 50 in this draft then reports of it being deep are grossly exaggerated.... :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #634 on: October 22, 2024, 11:07:38 PM »
Bit harsh imo. Bloke puts it out there good on him.


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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #635 on: October 23, 2024, 12:12:59 AM »
A portion of this year's draft class have voted on who they think should be the number one pick in 2024 - but will @Richmond_FC think similarly?


https://x.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1848515588328759779

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #636 on: October 23, 2024, 12:15:03 AM »
Draft prospects’ verdict on closest Pick 1 race in years as narrow favourite emerges

Ben Waterworth and Dylan Bolch
Fox Sports
October 23, 2024


It’s the tightest and hottest Pick 1 draft race in almost a decade.

But while uncertainty remains over which prospect Richmond will select with the first selection of next month’s draft, the class’ most prolific ball magnet – Oakleigh Chargers midfielder Jagga Smith – is the favourite among his peers.

While the No. 1 draft selection is just a number – punctuated by the fact Nick Daicos in 2023 polled a record 60 votes to claim the Rising Star award, nine months after he slipped to Pick 4 and arrived at Collingwood as a ready-made AFL player – there’s a level of prestige and pressure that comes with being the first draftee picked.

Past No. 1 selections Luke Hodge, Brendon Goddard, Adam Cooney, Brett Deledio, Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs retired with stacked CVs that included at least 250 games, while Daicos and Sam Walsh are recent examples of top draftees that can have an immediate impact. Others like Cam Rayner, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Jason Horne-Francis took a bit longer to show their wares at AFL level.

Harley Reid – the overwhelming Pick 1 favourite last year – turned many heads in his first season at West Coast, as many predicted 12 months ago.

For many of Smith’s peers this year, he has all the trademarks to be an AFL star.

Club recruiters and draft pundits have studied the 2024 field over several years. But foxfooty.com.au asked 19 players in this year’s draft class which player they’d take at Pick 1.

Seven of them, including Peel Thunder star Bo Allan, said Smith.

“It’s pretty hard to overlook Jagga,” Allan told foxfooty.com.au.

“He’s just a ball-getter, uses it well, he’s so composed and he has so much time. He’s very slippery and moves well, I think.

“He just has a natural skillset and knowledge to be Pick 1 worthy.”

Smith, on paper, arguably had the most impressive and consistent year of any player in the open draft pool.

A 181cm midfielder with a sickeningly good work ethic and impressive inside-outside balance, Smith finished runner-up in the Larke Medal and was named captain of the All-Australian team after an outstanding national carnival for Vic Metro. He averaged more disposals (29.2), contested possessions (13.8) and clearances (6.8) than any other player.

That all came after some bonkers performances for the Chargers, accumulating 33, 33, 50 (yes 50) and 40 disposals across four consecutive matches.

Then when he returned to Coates Talent League level for the final stretch of his season, he kicked at least one goal and averaged 32.6 disposals across five consecutive games.

As Sandringham Dragons defender Luke Trainor said: “Even for people who don’t follow the draft, if they looked at his stats, their jaws would be dropping.”

Murray Bushrangers goalkicker Joe Berry, as well as Sandringham Dragons duo Harry Armstrong and Murphy Reid, all pointed to Smith’s insane workrate as his key trait.

“He’s just so hard-working and he’s got the runs on the board,” Reid told foxfooty.com.au.

“He’s probably the most hard-working trainer that I’ve trained with in my time. He’s put so much work in and would really deserve it.”

Top Suns academy prospect Leo Lombard said Smith was “such a difficult player to play on”, adding: “He’s so quick, you won’t catch him with ball in-hand.”

South Adelaide star Sid Draper said: “I think Jagga Smith has put in a mountain of work this year that just can’t go unrecognised – and I think that’s worthy of the No. 1 pick.”

As for which player Smith would select if he had Pick 1?

“I’d be taking Josh Smillie – because of what he could be,” Smith told foxfooty.com.au.

“A 194cm midfielder that doesn’t rely on size – those types don’t grow on trees. I think he could be anything in the AFL competition.

“I’ve known Josh since I was really young, we played against each other in Under 12s. I’ve seen him really develop and grow into a star player. He’s an amazing player.”

Smillie, who looms as a possible top-10 pick at next month’s draft after being in the Pick 1 conversation earlier in the year, nominated himself.

“I feel like I’m a very caring person and just a perfect person to have at your club,” Smillie told foxfooty.com.au.

“Then what I bring to my football when playing, I’m a unique player. I can play anywhere.

“I feel like I’ve still got so much improvement in my body and also my game as well.”

But Smillie also had support from star Essendon Next Generation Academy prospect Isaac Kako, who said he’d pick the Eastern Ranges on-baller first due to his potential in the AFL.

“I think he can be a real star of the game,” Kako told foxfooty.com.au.

“He’s a point of difference, he’s that big and he moves really well and has elite kicking for his size. I think he can definitely impact at the next level.”

The Tigers are strongly considering three players at Pick 1: Smith, GWV Rebels forward-midfielder Sam Lalor and Oakleigh Chargers midfielder Finn O’Sullivan. Big-bodied Dandenong Stingrays Harvey Langford is an outside chance, too.

Interestingly, no prospect surveyed at the draft combine nominated Lalor, despite rival clubs believing he’s the minor favourite to be taken by Richmond with the No. 1 pick, at this stage.

Lalor, rather, was one of four players to nominate O’Sullivan, declaring he had “the most upside” of any prospect.

“He’s a very good runner, aerially he is so good,” Lalor told foxfooty.com.au.

“He probably has the best step in the draft, every time he touches the ball, he just does something good.”

Both Jack and Matt Whitlock nominated O’Sullivan, too. Jack said O’Sullivan’s “talent is just through the roof”, while Matt said the Vic Country star was the best player he’d played with.

“He hasn’t had the year he’s wanted, but with his ability, I reckon in about four or five years’ time you’re looking at Finn O’Sullivan as the next (Marcus) Bontempelli,” Matt Whitlock told foxfooty.com.au. “He has that capability, that winning nature.

“In Under 16s champs when I first played with him, you just saw some things that you don’t see from many.”

Langford also picked O’Sullivan – “He does everything really well. His footy IQ is pretty amazing, his agility and step out of contest and he just knows where to be.” – but Langford had fans among his peers, too.

“I’m taking Harvey Langford,” Bendigo Pioneers gun Tobie Travaglia declared to foxfooty.com.au. “He’s just an all-round great player.

“I feel like he set the champs alight and was the best player by far. He has such great moments that makes you think ‘he’s going to be pretty good at AFL level’.

“Left-footer, I feel like he’s got some growing to do as well. He’s just an exciting player in the air as well for his size. He’s going to be a top player.”

Fellow Pioneer Jobe Shanahan added on Langford: “His left boot is unreal and then just how tall he is for a midfielder. When I played against him, he just found it so easily and used it so well and then obviously hit the scoreboard too, which helps a lot.”

Shanahan’s thoughts were echoed by Carlton father-son prospect Ben Camporeale, who said Langford was “a good size, a nice kick and hits the scoreboard” and a player who’d gone “from one strength to another” in 2024.

Camporeale’s brother, Lucas, however was one of two South Australian prospects to select fellow statesman Sid Draper, who’s expected – at this stage – to be taken in the top five on draft night.

“Spending a lot of time with him in the SA state stuff, his physical attributes, his speed – and he’s been able to do it at SANFL league level,” Camporeale told foxfooty.com.au.

Gun Sturt ruck Alex Dodson added on Draper: “That’s my guy. Back at the state program, he was captain, he was extremely hard-working and a great leader, but also a really good guy that gets around you and really good to talk to. He’s really professional and mature beyond his years.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2024-prospects-pick-1-predictions-jagga-smith-favourite-josh-smillie-finn-osullivan-harvey-langford-rankings-mock-order-date/news-story/63e5d4ac12292e1e2ed0fc1a83ce8bdf

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #637 on: October 23, 2024, 12:17:15 AM »
Potential top-five draft pick Sam Lalor models his game on Collingwood superstar Jordan De Goey.

FULL INTERVIEW: https://www.3aw.com.au/the-pies-star-who-potential-number-one-draft-pick-models-his-game-on/


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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #638 on: October 23, 2024, 12:24:54 AM »
2024 AFL Draft: Full *75 PICK* Phantom DRAFT | POST-TRADE PERIOD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54M_qSte1Dk

1. Rich - Finn O'Sullivan
3. Rich - Sam Lalor ........ traded picks 6 & 11 for North's pick 2 (pick 3 after Ashcroft bid)
13. Rich - Tobie Travaglia
22. Rich - Jobe Shanahan
24. Rich - Matt Whitlock
27. Rich - Christian Moraes
28. Rich - Tom Gross
66. Rich - Sam Davidson

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #639 on: October 23, 2024, 03:59:58 PM »
Wow that goes pear shaped after the Lalor pick.... :help

...also highly doubt we'll bid on Ashcroft after trading  picks to the Bears so they could cover said bid... :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #640 on: October 23, 2024, 05:56:17 PM »
Wow that goes pear shaped after the Lalor pick.... :help

...also highly doubt we'll bid on Ashcroft after trading  picks to the Bears so they could cover said bid... :shh

I thought that Tobie and Shanahan are supposed to good by some on here?

Tobie was quick in those trails.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #641 on: October 23, 2024, 07:07:19 PM »
The more I read the more I want Lalor #1

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #642 on: October 23, 2024, 08:14:28 PM »
No one except our recruitment team knows who were picking which I love. 
Don't be surprised if we go a little left field. 

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #643 on: October 23, 2024, 09:25:09 PM »
No one except our recruitment team knows who were picking which I love. 
Don't be surprised if we go a little left field.

That's what I'm afraid of.... :help
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #644 on: October 23, 2024, 10:50:37 PM »
How much do we read into that the top draft prospects none have though Sam Lalor should go number 1? Except Finn OSullivan who can't choose himself. Jagga Smith has gone a bit cold post combine yet vast majority of draft prospects have said he should go number 1.
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