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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #645 on: October 23, 2024, 11:04:08 PM »
Meh.... bunch of dumb kids....wtf would they know.. :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #646 on: October 23, 2024, 11:07:45 PM »
7 out of 19 isn’t a majority
Let alone that being vast

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #647 on: October 24, 2024, 12:04:42 AM »
7 out of 19 isn’t a majority
Let alone that being vast

You're right, let's change my wording to most favoured player is Jagga Smith. The wondering is still there on how much of this is a fair indicator. I mean there would be a bias on who you play with but I think it's a pretty valid yardstick of who the better players are. Id prefer Lalor or FOS ahead of Jagga anyway but an interesting result.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #648 on: October 24, 2024, 01:32:29 AM »
Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

Remember, this is a ranking of the best prospects and does not take into account where bids on father-son or Academy players will come or where the players will necessarily get selected.

1. Levi Ashcroft           18/12/2006    179cm   Midfielder                    Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
2. Finn O'Sullivan        30/05/2006     182cm   Midfielder                  Oakleigh Charges/Vic Country (+2)
3. Harvey Langford      15/03/2006    190cm    Midfielder                  Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (-1)
4. Sam Lalor               30/08/2006    187cm    Midfielder                  GWV Rebels/Vic Country (+2)
5. Jagga Smith            28/01/2006    181cm    Midfielder                  Oakleigh Charges/Vic Metro (-2)
6. Murphy Reid            30/07/2006    180cm    Midfielder/Forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
7. Sid Draper              05/07/2006    180cm    Midfielder                   South Adelaide/SA (+1)
8. Josh Smillie             17/05/2006    194cm   Midfielder                   Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-1)
9. Alixzander Tauru      16/11/2006   193cm    Tall Defender             Gippsland Power/Vic Country (+1)
10. Harry Armstrong    14/06/2006    195cm    Tall Forward              Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
11. Tobie Travaglia       26/10/2006    187cm    Defender                  Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
12. Bo Allan                16/02/2006    191cm    Midfielder/Defender    Peel Thunder/WA
13. Leo Lombard         05/10/2006    178cm    Midfielder                  Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
14. Isaac Kako             07/03/2006   175cm    Small Forward           Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
15. Taj Hotton             17/06/2006    182cm    Midfielder/Forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
16. Xavier Lindsay        03/08/2006   183cm    Midfielder                  Gippsland Power/Vic Country (+2)
17. Luke Trainor          10/04/2006    194cm    Defender                   Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
18. Joe Berry               18/04/2006   180cm    Small Forward           Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-1)
19. Jack Whitlock         16/05/2006   200cm    Key Forward              Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+1)
20. Jobe Shanahan       02/08/2006   194cm    Tall Forward               Bendigo Pioneers/Allies (-1)
21. Cooper Hynes        28/02/2006    190cm   Midfielder/Forward      Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country
22. Sam Marshall         19/01/2006    185cm   Midfielder                   Brisbane Lions Academy/Allies (+1)
23. Matt Whitlock         16/05/2006   199cm  Key Forward/Defender  Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+2)
24. Jesse Dattoli           07/07/2006   179cm     Forward/midfielder     Northern Knights/Vic Metro
25. Jonty Faull              01/02/2006   195cm    Tall Forward               GWV Rebels/Vic Country  (-3)
26. Harrison Oliver       15/06/2006    181cm    Defender                  Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (+3)
27. Tom Gross             15/09/2006    181cm   Midfielder/Forward      Oakleigh Charges/Vic Metro
28. Oliver Hannaford    01/09/2006    180cm    Small Forward            GWV Rebels/Vic Country (+2)
29. Alex Dodson           15/06/2006   203cm    Ruckman                   Sturt/SA (-3)
30. Christian Moraes     08/11/2006   183cm    Midfielder                  Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-2)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1248177/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-october-ranking

Dropped out of Top 30

Thomas Sims          12/05/2006   199cm    Tall Forward               Northern Knights/Vic Metro (from #30 in August)
Noah Mraz              20/02/2006   198cm  Tall Defender/Forward   Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (from #30 in July)

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide July extra: The next best

Jasper Alger                 17/12/2006   182cm       Forward                  Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
Ned Bowman                12/09/2006   186cm       Forward                  Norwood/SA
Ben Camporeale           21/07/2006   186cm       Midfielder                Glenelg/SA
Angus Clarke                08/05/2006   188cm       Defender                 Glenelg/SA
Adrian Cole                  05/01/2006   195cm       Tall defender            Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
Josh Dolan                  11/11/2006   177cm      Midfielder/forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
Charlie Nicholls            08/06/2006   197cm   Tall forward/defender   Central District/SA
Harry O'Farrell             03/05/2006   196cm       Tall defender            Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Logan Smith                24/09/2006   204cm       Ruckman                 GWS Academy/Allies

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1179982/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-july-extra-the-10-next-best

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #649 on: October 24, 2024, 01:40:16 AM »
First-round AFL Phantom Draft: Who your club could pick on night 1

Jasper Chellappah
ESPN
Oct 23, 2024


One of the most even and deep draft pools ever means phantom drafts are fraught with danger this year. There will be stunning sliders and bolters on both nights, and live trade scenarios will play out as talent falls.

The evenness of this year's crop has seen clubs unwilling to shift out of the first-round frame as clubs including Carlton and Melbourne offer huge packages to get up the order. Watch for Richmond -- who own eight of the top 24 picks -- to move a couple of their later selections into next year's draft. GWS will be listening to offers for their three first-rounders, while Sydney is also a team to watch with their two late firsts.

Clubs including North Melbourne, West Coast and Essendon have signalled their intent to get back into the first-round frame, with the latter anticipating an early bid on Academy star Isaac Kako.

The Tigers hold all the cards, and whatever they do at No. 1 will have immediate flow on effects. It makes the nights of November 20th and 21st so fascinating to watch unfold and clubs will have combinations of trades planned for certain scenarios. ESPN's top two prospects in 2024 are projected to land at picks 5 and 7, such is the balance at the top of clubs' big boards.

With six bids and 28 picks, this is ESPN's first round phantom mock a month out from the 2024 AFL Draft.

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1. Richmond -- Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID/FWD, 188cm
He wears No. 4 on his back, loves using the fend off and hits the scoreboard from the midfield. Richmond is becoming enamoured with Lalor, and he may be the least likely of the top handful of prospects to be available to them at pick 6. The midfielder's upside is worthy of the top selection. He's a nightmare matchup with his power and aerial ability when swung forward, and the potential is there for him to become the next forward-half game-wrecker capable of the sublime. Lalor edges out Finn O'Sullivan and Jagga Smith for the top spot as it stands.

2. North Melbourne -- Alix Tauru
3. Carlton -- Finn O'Sullivan
4. BID: Brisbane -- Levi Ashcroft
5. Adelaide -- Sid Draper
6. Melbourne -- Harvey Langford

7. Richmond -- Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
It's a huge coup for the Tigers if Smith is on the board here after considering at the top choice. The local boy turned out impressive performances for their VFL side and had an unbelievably consistent year on-ball, proving to be one of the best CTL accumulators ever. He's fleet of foot, opens the game up for teammates and offers one of the highest floors in the draft pool.

8. BID: Gold Coast -- Leo Lombard
9. St Kilda -- Josh Smillie
10. St Kilda -- Xavier Lindsay
11. Melbourne -- Murphy Reid

12. Richmond -- Tobie Travaglia
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
DEF/MID, 187cm
Travaglia is unique at the top of the pool, a hard-running halfback with leadership aspirations and bucket loads of competitiveness. It's not only an area of need for the Tigers, but Travaglia suits in the cultural elements that he provides for a rebuild. His flexibility to play across all three levels will appeal for a club effectively restarting with a blank canvas.

13. BID: Essendon -- Isaac Kako

14. Richmond -- Harry Armstrong
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD, 195cm
Armstrong finished the season with a bang and is a lot of recruiter's best key forward in the pool. After taking Lalor, Smith and Travaglia, shoring up key position stocks should be a priority for the Tigers. Armstrong's ability to get up the ground, clunk big pack marks and kick accurately for goal is a well-rounded package.

15. West Coast -- Bo Allan
16. Port Adelaide -- Joe Berry
17. Fremantle -- Taj Hotton
18. GWS -- Oli Hannaford
19. GWS -- Jobe Shanahan
20. BID: Brisbane -- Sam Marshall
21. Western Bulldogs -- Cooper Hynes

22. Richmond -- Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Trainor is the slider in this phantom draft, but he shouldn't make it past the Tigers at this point. The intercepting tall was touted as a top 10 pick earlier this season but an inconsistent run due to injury has seen him drop out of that top rung. He's a beautiful aerialist and classy by foot, able to kickstart transition with slicing ball use. The tutelage of Nick Vlastuin may be exactly what Trainor needs.

23. Sydney -- Jack Whitlock

24. Richmond -- Alex Dodson
Sturt/South Australia
RUC, 203cm
This pick may be moved if a package entices the Tigers, but if not Alex Dodson will appeal as the ruck of the future. The basketball star turned his back on college scholarships and a professional contract to pursue football; he's the top ruck prospect this year and his soft hands and ability to win clearances will eventually translate well to the next level.

25. GWS -- Matt Whitlock
26. Sydney -- Hamish Davis
27. BID: St Kilda -- Adrian Cole

28. Richmond -- Jesse Dattoli
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 179cm
Dattoli's profile is unique -- he averages a contested mark per game despite his size and is a nightmare one-on-one matchup with his smarts and strength. He's also shown ability on-ball to rack up possessions and hit the scoreboard from the midfield, but despite the package there isn't buzz around him much higher than this spot. The Tigers could trade out here, but the upside swing on Dattoli would be a nice decision.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/41946825/afl-first-round-phantom-draft-2024-every-club-pick-richmond-sam-lalor-jagga-smith-finn-osullivan-bolters-sliders-more

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #650 on: October 24, 2024, 04:42:48 AM »
Meh.... bunch of dumb kids....wtf would they know.. :shh
The leader of the pack, they trust and admire Jagga  :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #651 on: October 24, 2024, 07:17:34 AM »
I stand by wanting any 3 of Fos, Lalor, Jagger and Smillie. Feels like we need to find a way to land pick 2 off Norf without sacrificing pick 6.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #652 on: October 24, 2024, 08:22:46 AM »
I stand by wanting any 3 of Fos, Lalor, Jagger and Smillie. Feels like we need to find a way to land pick 2 off Norf without sacrificing pick 6.
Agree or at worst do 6 and a pick in 20s
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #653 on: October 24, 2024, 08:54:37 AM »
I stand by wanting any 3 of Fos, Lalor, Jagger and Smillie. Feels like we need to find a way to land pick 2 off Norf without sacrificing pick 6.

Think we're a very good chance to get 2, as I'm hoping Smillie slides to 6.

I'm wondering how we acquire Armstrong though. Hope Dees don't take him at 5. Wondering if we need to take him at 6 and I don't think he'd slide to 10.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #654 on: October 24, 2024, 10:52:19 AM »
Would love the combo of Lalor, Smith and Armstrong.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #655 on: October 24, 2024, 03:21:58 PM »
Views on this kid for the draft experts

Thomas Sims
Tall forward
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #656 on: October 24, 2024, 05:32:47 PM »
Views on this kid for the draft experts

Thomas Sims
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Northern Knights/Vic Metro
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Should be still available in the late 20's which would be a bargain....at least on par with a few other more hyped KPF's....needs to be pointed out though that none of the KPFs in this draft look like top echelon potential superstars bar perhaps Tauru - who plays both ends but mainly back & Gerryn who is relatively raw and a ruck/forward......they're in next year's crop...why I laugh at people saying we need to grab as many as 3 this year....that would be peak stupidity and a total waste of our draft hand IMO.... :shh
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #657 on: October 24, 2024, 07:27:40 PM »
Views on this kid for the draft experts

Thomas Sims
Tall forward
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
199c

Should be still available in the late 20's which would be a bargain....at least on par with a few other more hyped KPF's....needs to be pointed out though that none of the KPFs in this draft look like top echelon potential superstars bar perhaps Tauru - who plays both ends but mainly back & Gerryn who is relatively raw and a ruck/forward......they're in next year's crop...why I laugh at people saying we need to grab as many as 3 this year....that would be peak stupidity and a total waste of our draft hand IMO.... :shh

I do think minimum of 2. In that bracket there's  Shanahan like a Riewoldt type good footy smarts, Faull who has big upside and Sim

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #658 on: October 24, 2024, 07:47:48 PM »
I stand by wanting any 3 of Fos, Lalor, Jagger and Smillie. Feels like we need to find a way to land pick 2 off Norf without sacrificing pick 6.

Think we're a very good chance to get 2, as I'm hoping Smillie slides to 6.

I'm wondering how we acquire Armstrong though. Hope Dees don't take him at 5. Wondering if we need to take him at 6 and I don't think he'd slide to 10.

What clubs have always said is that they don’t burn first round picks drafting for list needs. They take the best available talent at that pick and figure out how to get them into the team later. Just based on all the commentary and mock drafts that show that this one is midfield heavy, I’d wager there’s more chance of Armstrong going closer to pick 18 then pick 6.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #659 on: October 24, 2024, 09:47:54 PM »
Would love the combo of Lalor, Smith and Armstrong.

Agree this is my choice.
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