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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #705 on: October 28, 2024, 09:12:29 AM »
Stupid question but is there a deal we can do with lions thats gets us another pick, and in return we wont bid on him with the first 2 picks?

no idea how this all works.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #706 on: October 28, 2024, 09:34:01 AM »
Having read this morning how young Levi "wants" to be the number 1 draft pick

I wouldn't bother bidding on him just for the fun of it  ;D :snidegrin

I'd bid on him at number 2 ( and yes I think we will end up with pick 2)
What amazes me is that we have the number 1 pick but cannot pick the number 1 player.
What is wrong here ? am I missing something??

If Harley Reid had wanted to go to a particular club then WCE just doesn’t pick him??
It’s BS if you ask me

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #707 on: October 28, 2024, 10:31:28 AM »
Having read this morning how young Levi "wants" to be the number 1 draft pick

I wouldn't bother bidding on him just for the fun of it  ;D :snidegrin

I'd bid on him at number 2 ( and yes I think we will end up with pick 2)
What amazes me is that we have the number 1 pick but cannot pick the number 1 player.
What is wrong here ? am I missing something??

If Harley Reid had wanted to go to a particular club then WCE just doesn’t pick him??
It’s BS if you ask me

He’s a father son, so regardless of the bidding system or not, we still wouldn’t end up with him.
I’m ok with father sons landing at their club of choice, I’m sure there would be upheaval hear if they changed that and we missed out on a young Cotchin or Reiwoldt just because they technically could be the #1 pick.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #708 on: October 28, 2024, 11:55:46 AM »
Having read this morning how young Levi "wants" to be the number 1 draft pick

I wouldn't bother bidding on him just for the fun of it  ;D :snidegrin

I'd bid on him at number 2 ( and yes I think we will end up with pick 2)

Just my take, but if we don't trade for #2 I would bid on Ashcroft with #1 just to keep the Lions honest. I don't know if clubs do side deals about not bidding if you do this etc, but I just think they're the premiers and likely to get a guy who's a top 5 options for peanut late picks. Should make them earn it, otherwise I feel like we should have kept #32 in that trade.

If we get #2 I would take Lalor or FOS at #1 to make it clear that we rate them, then bid on Ashcroft with #2 to make the Lions pony up, and take the other of FOS/Lalor at 3.

Would be a shame to lose 6 and a decent shot at Armstrong but I'm hoping he makes it to #10.


What amazes me is that we have the number 1 pick but cannot pick the number 1 player.
What is wrong here ? am I missing something??

If Harley Reid had wanted to go to a particular club then WCE just doesn’t pick him??
It’s BS if you ask me

How do we know the club hasn't been firm on their #1 pick for weeks or months?

The media and fans can't seem to decide but it seems to be a choice between FOS and Lalor at this stage.

Evidently it just means either a) there's a lot of high-end talent in the top 5 or b) there's just no standout player.

Reid went #1 because he was an outright best option and he moved half way across the country. Bit of a JHF situation IMO > best player and if he doesn't want to stay they will likely get a lot in a trade for him.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #709 on: October 28, 2024, 12:50:05 PM »
Stupid question but is there a deal we can do with lions thats gets us another pick, and in return we wont bid on him with the first 2 picks?

no idea how this all works.

Explicitly doing this draft tampering, but off the books, I believe we may have already done this when we swapped our later picks for pick 18.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #710 on: October 28, 2024, 02:07:24 PM »
Stupid question but is there a deal we can do with lions thats gets us another pick, and in return we wont bid on him with the first 2 picks?

no idea how this all works.

Explicitly doing this draft tampering, but off the books, I believe we may have already done this when we swapped our later picks for pick 18.
Yep, would be gobsmacked if that wasn't the case.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #711 on: October 28, 2024, 07:26:56 PM »
Jesse Dattoli, rated a top-25 prospect in this year's draft, lives, breathes and eats footy.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1248461/footy-nut-afl-draft-jesse-dattoli-on-proving-doubters-wrong-boxing-and-hanging-with-rowelly-matt-rowell


One we've been linked to with one of our picks in the 20s.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #712 on: October 28, 2024, 07:28:09 PM »
Jagga Smith draft profile

SNAPSHOT: “An ultra-consistent accumulator of possessions whose agility, poise and decision making set him apart in the pick one race.” – Michael Alvaro

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/jagga-smith/

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #713 on: October 28, 2024, 07:41:13 PM »
2024 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The AFL Draft is less than a month away. Here’s how the first round could play out👇

Mitch Keating
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October 28, 2024


1. Richmond: Finn O'Sullivan
Position: Midfielder
Height: 182cm
State: Victoria
Club: Koroit

A fascinating call atop the draft board awaits the Tigers, who we see selecting Oakleigh Chargers gun O'Sullivan.

The teenager entered 2024 as arguably the leading prospect in his class before battling a series of setbacks related to hand injuries - managing just four Talent League games and a pair of appearances for Vic Country at the National Championships. With enough runs on the board before his ailments, coupled with a handful of starring performances, there's little doubting O'Sullivan's pedigree.

His numbers (17.3 disposals, 4.0 marks, 5.3 inside 50s, 3.0 clearances, 3.5 tackles and 1.3 goals) won't match many others toward the top of the draft, but it's O'Sullivan's impact and damage that separates him from the pack.



2. Brisbane: Levi Ashcroft (Matched F/S Bid)
3. North Melbourne: Sam Lalor
4. Carlton: Jagga Smith
5. Adelaide: Sid Draper
6. Melbourne: Harvey Langford


7. Richmond: Murphy Reid
Position: Midfielder
Height: 181cm
State: Victoria
Club: South Melbourne Districts

Richmond's second selection of the night might see them add one of this year's big risers in Reid, whose traits would fittingly complement the strengths that O'Sullivan would bring to Adem Yze's midfield ensemble.

Much like how O'Sullivan was able to wax with Chargers teammate Jagga Smith for large parts of the past two years, Reid can bring a similar style with his clean hands at the contest and high footy IQ, while the Sandringham star can be an even bigger threat in the front half.

Reid was a shining light in Vic Metro's undefeated carnival, averaging 24.5 disposals, 9.2 contested possessions, 3.2 clearances and 3.2 tackles to take out the MVP award for the title-winning side.



8. St Kilda: Josh Smillie
9. St Kilda: Harry Armstrong
10. Essendon: Isaac Kako (Matched Academy Bid)
11. Melbourne: Luke Trainor


12. Richmond: Tobie Travaglia
Position: Defender-Midfielder
Height: 187cm
State: Victoria
Club: Sandhurst

Speed and outside hustle are the leading traits for Travaglia, who was among Vic Country's best in their strong U18s carnival this year.

The Bendigo talent took out best and fairest honours at the Pioneers last year while playing alongside Harley Reid, with his stocks only soaring higher across the course of 2024 as he managed to find plenty of the ball and use it wisely.

Travaglia averaged 23.6 disposals, 4.3 marks, 6.0 intercept possessions, 3.2 clearances, 5.2 score involvements and 6.4 tackles from his dozen appearances in the Talent League to be named at half-back in the competition's Team of the Year - the same spot he claimed in the U18 All-Australian side.

Able to play in defence, on the wing or through the middle, the pacey teenager would be a fitting addition to the Tigers' earlier selections.


13. Richmond: Alixzander Tauru
Position: Defender-Forward
Height: 193cm
State: Victoria
Club: Warragul Industrials

At this point in the draft the Tigers will likely be looking toward the key position talent pool, with the second half of the first round set to offer an abundance of 190cm+ players who can fill a role at either end.

Tauru, who has enjoyed a meteoric rise with Gippsland and Vic Country this year, is capable of playing as both an intercepting defender and as a forward target - potentially giving Richmond some flexibility as they also rely on the versatility of swingman Noah Balta.

The athletic youngster has a stunning leap and has shown little fear when flying for the ball - traits that have boded well in every position he has played.


14. Gold Coast: Leonardo Lombard (Matched Academy Bid)
15. West Coast: Bo Allan
16. Port Adelaide: Cooper Hynes
17. Fremantle: Taj Hotton
18. GWS: Xavier Lindsay
19. GWS: Jobe Shanahan
20. Western Bulldogs: Alex Dodson


21. Richmond: Joe Berry
Position: Small Forward
Height: 181cm
State: Victoria
Club: Wangaratta

The Tigers are back on the clock at Pick 21, which will be their third last selection of the first round and their fifth so far in this count.

Their next selection sees them acquire one of the best ground-level guns this year's draft class has to offer in Berry, who quickly rose to the elite crop thanks to strong numbers for the Murray Bushrangers and Vic Country.

Berry booted 27 goals in the Talent League to finish equal third in the competition, with 16 of those goals coming in four of his first five games. He went on to kick nine goals in his four games for Vic Country before showing off his abilities as a midfielder in his return to the Bushrangers.

The crafty small forward would nicely sharpen Adem Yze's attacking tandem and Berry might be considered a bargain at Pick 21.



22. Brisbane: Sam Marshall (Matched Academy Bid)
23. Sydney: Kayle Gerreyn


24. Richmond: Jonty Faull
Position: Key Forward
Height: 195cm
State: Victoria
Club: Redan

The Tigers are certainly in need of some key forward depth, and they won't be left wanting with the selection of Faull, who is one of several astute options still up for grabs at this junction of the draft.

A tall forward who is equally damaging in the air as he is at ground level in the attacking arc, Faull's 2024 season rose nicely after a delayed start through injury.

Faull kicked a team-high 27 goals in the Talent League for the GWV Rebels to sit third in the competition for the metric, including 16 in his first five games after returning in Round 10.

He flexed his ability as a big game player in the finals too, kicking nine goals across the qualifying and preliminary finals to help book his side a spot in the decider.



25. GWS: Jack Whitlock
26. Sydney: Jesse Dattoli


27. Richmond: James Barrat
Position: Defender-Forward
Height: 194cm
State: Victoria
Club: Leitchville Gunbower

A pure swingman option, Barrat's marking ability on either side of possession is almost unmatched.

Much like Tasmanian breakout James Leake last year, Barrat proved to be a formidable versatile asset with roles at either end of the field in the both halves of the season.

He started the season with 18 goals in his first six games for the Bendigo Pioneers before being thrown into defence to flex his intercepting ability - averaging 6.2 intercept marks in a seven-game patch.

He would end the year with 16.5 disposals, 7.2 marks, 6.5 intercepts, 5.0 score involvements, 3.5 intercept marks and 1.7 goals per game to his name in the Talent League and would also show promise in a VFL debut for Essendon down back.

https://www.zerohanger.com/2024-afl-mock-draft-picks-1-27-first-edition-156203/27/

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #714 on: October 28, 2024, 07:43:33 PM »
Richmond MUST get this right! | AFL Draft 2024


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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #715 on: October 28, 2024, 08:27:34 PM »
Football club needs to nail it's draft picks - stunning insight. :clapping
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #716 on: October 28, 2024, 08:38:23 PM »
Football club needs to nail it's draft picks - stunning insight. :clapping

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“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #717 on: October 28, 2024, 08:55:40 PM »
I know in this day and age possessions and stats in general are becoming less and less meaningful, but for anyone that follows the draft closely, is there any concern with regards to FOS’s ball winning ability? Just looking at the stats at the above articles link and he is quite clearly the lowest possession winner out of at least the next 10 listed mids in their list (if not more - I stopped around pick 14 or so).

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #718 on: Yesterday at 01:45:24 PM »
I know in this day and age possessions and stats in general are becoming less and less meaningful, but for anyone that follows the draft closely, is there any concern with regards to FOS’s ball winning ability? Just looking at the stats at the above articles link and he is quite clearly the lowest possession winner out of at least the next 10 listed mids in their list (if not more - I stopped around pick 14 or so).

FOS isn't a pure mid, he plays a percentage in forward line. Where as Jagga is 100% mid.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
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Why Richmond might not trade for North Melbourne’s pick two

By Marc McGowan
The Age
October 29, 2024


Richmond’s reluctance to part with pick six could force North Melbourne to use their No.2 selection in next month’s AFL draft or find another taker.

There is a strong group of midfielders, including Sam Lalor, Brisbane Lions father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, Finn O’Sullivan, Jagga Smith, Sid Draper, Harvey Langford and Josh Smillie, set to be chosen early in the draft, which has put the Kangaroos in a challenging spot.

North already have Luke Davies-Uniacke, Jy Simpkin, George Wardlaw, Harry Sheezel, Colby McKercher and even Will Phillips, and just traded for Luke Parker, but need key position players at both ends.

That is why the Roos are open to offloading pick two for multiple later selections, where they would slide only a few picks back in the draft.

The Tigers boast an extraordinary seven first-round selections, as well as the coveted opening pick of the second round on day two.

Richmond’s almost unprecedented draft hand – picks one, six, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24 – owes largely to them agreeing to trade Daniel Rioli (Gold Coast), Shai Bolton (Fremantle) and Liam Baker (West Coast).

However, the Tigers’ second-round selection could fetch them a future first-rounder, and reduce their number of picks to seven.

Richmond are tipped to use the No.1 selection on GWV Rebels rising star Lalor, who is being likened to Dustin Martin for his physicality, power, skills and ability to impact the game equally as a midfielder or forward. This masthead ranked Lalor at the top of our draft rankings at the start of this month.

Carlton star Sam Walsh’s second cousin, hard-running midfielder O’Sullivan, and Smith, the draft’s best ball magnet, are also in that mix, but most recruiters who spoke to this masthead are certain Lalor will be the first player taken.

Another factor is the Tigers’ interest in 195-centimetre Patrick Cripps clone Josh Smillie, who hails from junior club Park Orchards, where Richmond list boss Blair Hartley is a coach and Hartley’s son plays.

Smillie looms as Richmond’s selection if they maintain pick six, but there is less certainty he would still be there four selections later.

North Melbourne are linked to Gippsland Power’s athletic interceptor Alix Tauru, who looms as the draft’s biggest bolter, and Sandringham Dragons key forward Harry Armstrong, but both players should be available at a lower selection in the top 10.

Melbourne (picks five and nine), St Kilda (seven and eight) and Richmond (10) could also consider Tauru or Armstrong with one of their top-10 picks, while another tall defender, Luke Trainor, looms as a later first-round choice.

The Demons used most of their draft collateral trading up for Essendon’s No.9 selection and are not expected to try to move up again, leaving the Saints as the likeliest potential trade partner for the Roos’ pick two if nothing eventuates with the Tigers.

North Melbourne lost Tarryn Thomas this year, so could select a midfielder-forward type at No.2 instead of reaching for a taller bookend, unless the plan is for Sheezel to spend more time in attack than in an on-ball role.

Some rival recruiters believe the Kangaroos’ bulk drafting of midfielders in the past five years means they might need to consider their list needs instead of taking the best available player, as clubs typically do when selecting at the pointy end of the draft.

Another option is North using their future first-rounder to trade into the top 10 for a second selection, meaning they could take a midfielder first and still address their key-position need.

That would require a team to trade out of a highly touted, deep and even draft, so the Roos may need to offer a sweetener for that to happen.

One of Richmond or North Melbourne could place a bid on Ashcroft with the first two picks, but the Lions are certain to match either way.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-richmond-might-not-trade-for-north-melbourne-s-pick-two-20241028-p5km20.html