Pick 1

[Andyy]

The way we're going, North will smash us, and we should lie down and take it.

[Diocletian]

Inb4 AFL give it to Norf anyway as a priority pick and we end up with pick 3....

Which has worked well for us in the past.

Yeah O'Sullivan, Smith & Smillie all seem pretty safe bets but there's no Dustin Martin this year...and I doubt Norf would pass them up if there was....

[Gigantor]

Probably old skool here but can’t accept the logic of getting beaten so as we get high draft picks .

[Diocletian]

Probably old skool here but can’t accept the logic of getting beaten so as we get high draft picks .

Short term pain for long term gain...it's the way the system is set up.....don't hate the player, hate the game....

[camboon]

I don’t think we are trying to lose , with injuries and our stars aging , plus by winning flags a  reduced draft hand , we just have run our race , and we need a rebuild , I don’t expect us to improve greatly for a couple of years .

[Diocletian]

Players don't try to lose...even if it sometimes looks like they do...

[Gigantor]

If we need to bottom out to secure high draft picks , then how do we explain the Swans and Geelong and to a lesser extent Port Adelaide who don’t bottom out but are always challenging
What do they do that we haven’t ?

[Diocletian]

You really asking why Swans & Geelong never bottom out? As for Port they just tread water...never been a serious challenger.....

[Andyy]

If we need to bottom out to secure high draft picks , then how do we explain the Swans and Geelong and to a lesser extent Port Adelaide who don’t bottom out but are always challenging
What do they do that we haven’t ?

Swans have an absurd amount of talent via academy. Look at their list and see for yourself.

Geelong has been extremely well managed. They haven't overpaid players, have traded well, drafted well, brought in picks by paying wages to guys like Bowes etc. Perhaps it's the geography but there seems to be an attraction to them for guys like Cameron and Dangerfield.

Port stink and have never been the real deal.

[Simonator]

If we need to bottom out to secure high draft picks , then how do we explain the Swans and Geelong and to a lesser extent Port Adelaide who don’t bottom out but are always challenging
What do they do that we haven’t ?

Acquiring Cameron and Dangerfield is a huge reason.

[Willy]

Geelong also got crazy lucky with father sons.

[Tiger Khosh]

If we need to bottom out to secure high draft picks , then how do we explain the Swans and Geelong and to a lesser extent Port Adelaide who don’t bottom out but are always challenging
What do they do that we haven’t ?

Acquiring Cameron and Dangerfield is a huge reason.

That’s not really a reason though is it. You could say the same thing about us with acquiring Lynch and Prestia.

They do have the country Victoria factor that entices a lot of players from rural backgrounds as well as have gotten some gun father son picks.

I also wouldn’t consider them perennial contenders either. Between their 2011 & 2022 flags, they were mostly pretenders with a horrible finals record.

[Andyy]

I also think they fluked that last flag myself but that's just my opinion.

[Simonator]

If we need to bottom out to secure high draft picks , then how do we explain the Swans and Geelong and to a lesser extent Port Adelaide who don’t bottom out but are always challenging
What do they do that we haven’t ?

Acquiring Cameron and Dangerfield is a huge reason.

That’s not really a reason though is it. You could say the same thing about us with acquiring Lynch and Prestia.

They do have the country Victoria factor that entices a lot of players from rural backgrounds as well as have gotten some gun father son picks.

I also wouldn’t consider them perennial contenders either. Between their 2011 & 2022 flags, they were mostly pretenders with a horrible finals record.

So… are you saying that acquiring lynch and Prestia weren’t big reasons for our dominance ?

[Diocletian]

If we need to bottom out to secure high draft picks , then how do we explain the Swans and Geelong and to a lesser extent Port Adelaide who don’t bottom out but are always challenging
What do they do that we haven’t ?

Acquiring Cameron and Dangerfield is a huge reason.

That’s not really a reason though is it. You could say the same thing about us with acquiring Lynch and Prestia.

They do have the country Victoria factor that entices a lot of players from rural backgrounds as well as have gotten some gun father son picks.

I also wouldn’t consider them perennial contenders either. Between their 2011 & 2022 flags, they were mostly pretenders with a horrible finals record.

So… are you saying that acquiring lynch and Prestia weren’t big reasons for our dominance ?

We're saying you picked three of the worst examples of clubs you could have to make a point....one that 's been heavily advantaged by COLA and academies so nearly every draft is awesome for them regardless of where they finish, another kissed on the dick by father sons that also has a  geographical advantage & appeal that's unique in the competition and a third that's won nothing and has missed the finals 5 times under it's current coach who's been there since 2013...