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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2024, 07:57:01 AM »
Need to finish last

Anything else is a fail

Then and this is just my opinion  ;) I think you might be disappointed

I see us winning at least 6 games

Why? We are going to get an incredibly soft draw. With the youth coming through, they bring enthusiasm that IMHO will filter through the group.. so based on that I reckon we will get off to a fast start, struggle in the middle and finish with a flourish

Agree with all you've said WP, however I think what is needed above all to all of that to translate to wins is a successful game style. The side is a Frankenstein mixture at the moment and who knows how they will feel together straight away. Mitchell at Hawks clicked this year with their unique identity and football style. North haven't done that yet, yet have better talent.

So whilst agree that enthusiasm and soft draw will help enormously if we don't build a certain way of playing football, a new, clear Richmond style the Ws will be rare until we do.
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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2024, 12:13:30 PM »
Football hasn't really changed all that much since the 60's & 70's.  How so?  Because the thing that crushes all opposition is direct football.  Get the ball any way you can, run as far as you can with it then kick the F* out of it!  That is the patented Richmond style of football, its our invention & its why we are so feared. 
There are more highly skilled players & sides than us who play pretty football, do pretty things & collect awards & accolades for it, but at Richmond we do things differently!  A quick, direct, ruthlessly decisive kill beats everybody, our style has to be based on that idea. 
So, I want to see the new Richmond side under Yze do all of those typically Richmond things because its a winning formula.  It wont win awards or praise, but it will win premierships!  It will take time to develop the young talent we are about to draft, so this wont happen quickly, but it will happen inevitably.   
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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2024, 01:53:22 PM »
Forget about wins we're looking for green shoots and a identity and structure.

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2024, 01:07:45 AM »
Need to finish last

Anything else is a fail

I believe in North to come last

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2024, 04:24:01 PM »
Need to finish last

Anything else is a fail

I believe in North to come last

Yeah
That’ll do now

The stupidity of Nort knows no bounds

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2024, 07:33:17 PM »
This is gpingbto sound crazy but I'm tipping St Kilda to win the spoon   :santa
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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2024, 03:13:04 AM »
Sam Edmund and Adam Cooney react to Mark Bickley's enormous Richmond prediction

By Isabella Bianchi
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6 Dec 2024


Sam Edmund and Adam Cooney have both doubted Mark Bickley’s huge call, after the former Adelaide captain predicted that “Richmond will go through the whole season winless next year”.

They discussed their reasonings on SEN Breakfast, maintaining it would be basically impossible for the Tigers to lose 24 straight games.

The duo later provided an insight into how the Tigers can find some success in 2025, and what a difficult season could teach them.

Edmund: “That is a bold, bold prediction, I think it’s happened a few times historically but not since 1964, certainly not in the AFL era. It was a different time obviously.

“In the modern day, can it still happen? It could, but how likely is it?”

Cooney: “We’ve seen some horrible teams win a game, like the expansion teams. Even a bunch of hacks that were assembled just before the 2016 season for the Bombers won a couple of games.

“Essendon beat Carton and Gold Coast in 2016 actually.”

Edmund: “So, you beat Carlton in your last week, Gold Coast a few weeks before that and beat Melbourne in Round 2, so they won three.”

Cooney: “Yeah so three wins and that is one of the worst teams ever assembled. As I mentioned, that’s pretty positive.”

Edmund: “The ceiling was low, but is the ceiling low for Richmond? Yes.”

Cooney: “Yes. But it’ll happen. Any team can have a shocking day. Richmond might get two wins.

“They’ll play as the most inexperienced side since those expansion teams, but it’ll be good for them.

“They’ve just got to keep pouring games into these kids. If (Sam) Lalor is playing poorly just keep him out there.”

Edmund: “Richmond hasn’t won since June 6 when they beat Adelaide out at Adelaide Oval. Last year was a two-win season and they’ve become infinitely worse so I can see why Bicks has made that prediction.”

Cooney: “Yet they beat Sydney last year. That was Adam Yze’s first win, against Sydney at the MCG. Any team can beat anyone on the day if they’re off.”

Edmund:
“I agree with you.”

The discussion then turned to clubs bottoming out after winning flags, like Richmond has done since their triple treat between 2017 and 2020.

Cooney, the 2008 Brownlow Medallist, played 11 seasons for the Western Bulldogs and two for Essendon, only featuring in finals in three of those campaigns.

He insists he would have been happy to go through his career without further success if he won a flag early.

“If someone came to me in my first and said, ‘Listen, where you’re 18 you’re going to play in a premiership with the Western Bulldogs but the next 15 years of your career you’re not going to play a final’, I’d say, ‘Who cares?’,” he added.

“That’s why you play, to win a premiership. It doesn’t matter what happens after that.

“People say, ‘Teams are wasted, they could have dominated three or four years’. Who cares? If you won a premiership, nothing matters after that.

“Ask St Kilda supporters, ask the Dogs supporters after 1954. Richmond won three of them! They could give two back now and be happy with the one that they’ve got.”

Edmund added: “Is it worth the downfall? 100 per cent.

“Couldn’t be worth it any more in my humble opinion.

“But maybe it depends on where you come from. If you’ve been spoiled by success of your footy team then maybe, but so many clubs are desperately trying to win premierships and they’re so very hard to win.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/12/05/sam-edmund-and-adam-cooney-react-to-mark-bickleys-enormous-richmond

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2024, 08:28:25 AM »
I actually think we will win 3-4 games. I think we will be better than last year, as long as the injuries subside.

Pass mark for me though is blooding as many kids as possible. 3-4 game blocks then rest. Rince and repeat

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2024, 09:59:58 AM »
Reckon we can win up to 8 games with both a good run of injuries and also a decent run of luck in the close ones, particularly umpires. That’s a best case scenario with the worst case being 1-2 wins
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2024, 12:59:26 PM »
Think they forget how decimated we were by injury.

Would have won half a dozen games if we had a good side out there most weeks imo.

We will not go winless in '25. Easily 2-4 wins minimum.

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2024, 01:36:57 PM »
Beat North twice, 2 grand finals, all that matters

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2024, 02:13:21 PM »
The main priority next year is green shoots from the cubs and a system and identity.

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2024, 03:11:53 PM »
Doing the small things consistently well is what I would like to see:-
Sticking tackles, aggressive blocking and shepards off the ball.
If we’re going to block space, let’s make sure up the field the players are sweating on the opposition to create some perceived - or better still - real pressure on the kicker.
F50 pressure would be bloody fantastic to see come back into our game plan.
Offence starts from defence. I saw little or none of that last season. All of these things can happen with or without injuries.

Hope players are on a program in pre season that allows the running power to do these defensive things relentlessly through the year
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Pass mark for 2025?
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2024, 04:04:07 PM »
We lost about 6 players including our best and fairest , all going well 1 to 2 games this year because I haven’t seen anything special from the up and coming players and the old and injury prone will be still be tired and injured.
to see green shoots from our new kids will be my wins and if we win a few games a bonus