Ramps' not future Richmond premiership players

[Jackstar]

Hey MT, I reckon your right there

[H Tiger]

Just read through the thread.

A few comments -

1. Joel  is not always a front runner. He is frustrating but is no KPP or pure defender and plays above himself.

2. Ramps put too many names on his list. This has been said previously

3. I think we need to draft a lot more than the minimum this year.

4. Some draftees need more time, attitude is obviously a major factor. Raines has come on this year, what's to say Roach, Limbach or Hartigan can't?

I would expect all of the fab five to make significant improvement next year.

Moore I think has had the time being part of the rookie list, so him, Rodan, Tiv,  Krak, Chaffey, Stafford and Humm I would expect to go at the end of the year. Howat wouldn't want to go missing at all even considering his great debut.

I notice you don;t have B2 on your safe list MT, I'd be very suprised if he hasn't earned himself another year.

[PuntRdRoar]

H- the list is not a list of who should be at Punt Rd next year rather its a list of players who in my opinion will never be Richmond premiership players. I stand by the list totally. We have 20 blokes on the list who will never be premiership players at our club and i expect most of the 20 will be out of Richmond by the end of 2007

[mightytiges]

I notice you don;t have B2 on your safe list MT, I'd be very suprised if he hasn't earned himself another year.

I don't expect Paddy to be going anywhere either but there's no guarantees as we may need to trade someone of value to get another high draft pick. Paddy has gone from zilch (a Werribee player picked up at #56) to a 20 disposals per game AFL player rebounding off half-back in tandem with his brother in the space of one summer.

[PuntRdRoar]

With abit of luck I could probably turn this thread into the first 3000 post thread in the history of OER over the next 3 or 4 years. 

[Gracie]

H- the list is not a list of who should be at Punt Rd next year rather its a list of players who in my opinion will never be Richmond premiership players. I stand by the list totally. We have 20 blokes on the list who will never be premiership players at our club and i expect most of the 20 will be out of Richmond by the end of 2007

Not sure that we will see 20 leave the list over this and next year. Who do we replaced that many with 18yr olds?? If so we would be following Hawthorn's path and then be several years behind. Look at the average age of who you reckon will be left and add the 20 18/19yr olds. That makes for many years at the bottom

Personally I see only 4/5 changes this year and the same number the following year. The only way to get up to your numbers is to trade but from your list there is little in the way of serious trade value.

[Moi]

Moore I think has had the time being part of the rookie list, so him, Rodan, Tiv,  Krak, Chaffey, Stafford and Humm I would expect to go at the end of the year. Howat wouldn't want to go missing at all even considering his great debut.

Both Rodan and Krak are contracted till 2007 according to our contract list.  They might be safe, but the rest are probably gone with Tiv, Chaff and Staff 2006.

[PuntRdRoar]

When I say most of the 20 wont be at RFC by the end of 2007 that doesnt mean all 20 that could mean say 15 out of the 20 which in my opinion constitute the defination of the word "most" I think we should be looking for 8 to 9 changes this year and maybe 8 or so next year...

[H Tiger]

Krak would have some sort of trade value & I would take what was offered within reason.

Rodan I forgot got two years last year. Hopefully this is heavily performance based, he would want to have a great year next year to extend his career.

God damm it Ramps! I was looking at your list and thinking when we win a flag in the next five years some of those players will have to be in the side.

Next five years...................... is it wishful thinking??? I've been waiting 26 already.

[mightytiges]

I see us offloading more players this year than next due to the quality of the upcoming draft. We need another cleanout and an injection of talent.

[WilliamPowell]

I see us offloading more players this year than next due to the quality of the upcoming draft. We need another cleanout and an injection of talent.

This is where I don't see it - or maybe I just dont want too  . I can see us "Trying" to offload blokes but....

We can offer who ever we like but the question really becomes of the ones we put up is any other team going to be interested. ???

I think of those players we have contracted that may be offered as trade and no-one will want them or want them at the price we want, where as the ones we are not going to offer (eg Lids, Polo etc) will be the ones other teams will be after.

[Moi]

I think of those players we have contracted that may be offered as trade and no-one will want them or want them at the price we want, where as the ones we are not going to offer (eg Lids, Polo etc) will be the ones other teams will be after.

Can't see them wanting any of the players we see as discards - but some lucky club might be able to get one player for free if we don't sign him up soon - what the hell is going on with Rainisey? 

[PuntRdRoar]

We only have 3 tradeable players in my opinion worth anything decent and 2 of them have to be packaged up the three are Tuck and Krakouer to (North) as lot 1 and Schulz to Port (Only) as lot 2.

PLEASE NOTE! Id be reticent to part with Schulz just depends how desperate we are for an early pick Id reckon but Sarge isnt pleasing alot of people id imagine with his capacity to kick 2 in 5 minutes and disappear for the rest of the game.

[mightytiges]

Tuck would be worth a fair bit on his own. No need to package him with someone else. If Richie Cole could attract a top 20 pick or thereabouts then so would Krak. There always seems to be a desparate dumb club every year. Let's just hope it isn't us. Any player has a certain value or none as far as another club thinks. There's no half-value IMO.

I wouldn't be trading Sarge. Get him on the track over summer and boost his endurance.

 

[mightytiges]

I see us offloading more players this year than next due to the quality of the upcoming draft. We need another cleanout and an injection of talent.

This is where I don't see it - or maybe I just dont want too  . I can see us "Trying" to offload blokes but....

We can offer who ever we like but the question really becomes of the ones we put up is any other team going to be interested. ???

I think of those players we have contracted that may be offered as trade and no-one will want them or want them at the price we want, where as the ones we are not going to offer (eg Lids, Polo etc) will be the ones other teams will be after.

We'd be mad trading the likes of Lids, Polo, etc but I can see us trading someone who other clubs rate highly but we may think has plateaued and can be semi-easily replaced within the next 2-3 years hopefully with another first round pick or two who is better. I don't have any names but we still need to add a number of high quality footballers to our list if we want to challenge in say 3-4 years time. Adding just 4 players per draft each year won't let us catch up with the top sides over time unless nearly all of them turn out to be good AFL standard.