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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2007, 03:58:30 PM »
Carlton have fined both Whitnall and Scotland along with Michael Jamison, Shaun Grigg, Kade Simpson and Brad Fisher who were also at the pub but left before the "incident" occurred.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=314598

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Blues get Elliott back
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2007, 02:16:21 AM »
Some clubs never learn  ::)

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BIG Jack is back at Carlton. John Elliott, the deposed former president, will chair a new coterie group on the request of new president Richard Pratt, a long-time friend.

Elliott again said the Blues should play four home games at Princes Park and move other home games from Telstra Dome to the MCG.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21222805%255E20322,00.html

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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2008, 07:49:59 AM »

Billionaire Dick Pratt faces jail

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23892386-661,00.html

Norrie Ross

June 20, 2008 12:00am

EXCLUSIVE: BILLIONAIRE Dick Pratt faces up to four years' jail after being charged yesterday with lying about his knowledge of a price-fixing scandal.

The laying of criminal charges could force Mr Pratt to step down as president of Carlton Football Club.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission alleges the chief of cardboard manufacturer Visy gave false and misleading evidence before a commission hearing in 2005.

In a summons lodged in the Federal Court yesterday, the ACCC charges Mr Pratt with breaching the Trade Practices Act by denying knowledge of a plot to fix the price of cardboard boxes with Visy's rival, Amcor.

In evidence before the commission, Mr Pratt was asked by Peter Jopling, QC, if he had a conversation in the All Nations Hotel in Richmond on May 21, 2001, with Amcor's former chief executive officer, Russell Jones.

Mr Jopling said Mr Jones had told the commission they discussed the price-fixing arrangement and how it protected market share.

Mr Pratt replied: "He's lying."

Mr Jopling: "Why are you so adamant he is lying?"

Mr Pratt: "Because I would have recalled such a conversation and there never was one."

In another part of the cross-examination, Mr Jopling asked: "Do you have any independent knowledge of the existence of such an arrangement?"

Mr Pratt: "No."

Mr Pratt is facing four separate charges under Section 5 of the Act.

The penalty for each charge ranges from a fine of $2200 to 12 months' jail.

The charges will bring pressure on the AFL and its chief executive, Andrew Demetriou, over Mr Pratt's role as Carlton president.

Critics said the AFL should have ended Mr Pratt's tenure when Visy was fined $36 million in the Federal Court last year after admitting price-fixing with Amcor.

In April this year, Mr Demetriou said he had been guided by the Federal Court decision not to bar Mr Pratt from being a company director.

Under pressure over the scandal, the cardboard king challenged the AFL to set the record straight "once and for all".

"If they don't have a problem, let them be unequivocal about it, then put the matter to rest," he said.

Justice Peter Heerey found Visy and Amcor had carved up the $1.8 billion cardboard box market for almost five years.

The judge said the cartel would probably still be flourishing if it had not been accidentally exposed.

Mr Pratt had profited at the expense of every man, woman and child in Australia, the judge said.

The court heard executives of both companies organised secret meetings using phone boxes and pre-paid mobile phones before their activities were discovered.
Visy admitted colluding with Amcor, so each could retain its share of the market, and collaborating to increase their prices.

The companies agreed to price rises totalling nearly 20 per cent over four years.

They also agreed to submit deliberately high quotes when asked by their rival's customers to tender for a contract.

Visy's actions cost companies such as Coca-Cola, Cadbury, Gillette and Nestle millions of dollars.

Visy is facing the prospect of a $700 million class action from customers who paid too much for cardboard boxes.

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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2008, 07:50:54 AM »
ACCC 'charges Pratt with price-fixing lies'

http://www.theage.com.au/national/accc-charges-pratt-with-pricefixing-lies-20080620-2tq6.html

June 20, 2008 - 6:09AM

Billionaire cardboard king Richard Pratt could face up to four years in jail after being charged with lying to the corporate watchdog over his knowledge of price fixing.

In a summons lodged with the Federal Court on Thursday, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) alleged Mr Pratt, the head of cardboard manufacturer Visy, gave false and misleading evidence to an ACCC hearing in 2005, News Limited reports.on Friday.

It has charged Mr Pratt with breaching the Trade Practices Act by denying knowledge of a price-fixing deal with rival cardboard manufacturer Amcor.

The charges relate to an alleged conversation between Mr Pratt and former Amcor chief executive Russell Jones at a Richmond hotel in 2001, raised at the hearing, which Mr Pratt denied took place.

Mr Pratt faces four separate charges, with each attracting penalties ranging from a $2200 fine to 12 months' prison.

Mr Pratt and his Visy group of companies were fined $36 million in the Federal Court last year for colluding in a price-fixing deal with Amcor.

Justice Peter Heerey found Visy and Amcor had fixed the cardboard packaging market over five years, and that Mr Pratt had profited at the expense of every Australian from it.

Visy admitted colluding with Amcor.

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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2008, 02:30:21 PM »
Billionaire Dick Pratt stands down at Carlton as he faces jail

Norrie Ross, Matthew Schulz

June 20, 2008 01:47pm

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23893784-661,00.html

FOOTY chief Andrew Demetriou has denied that Dick Pratt's dramatic resignation from Carlton has damaged the AFL's reputation.
Mr Demetriou said he supported Mr Pratt's move to stand aside, but denied he had played any part in the decision.

"I've spoken to Greg Swann and he's advised me that Mr Pratt has stood aside pending the investigation of the charges he will face," Mr Demetriou told reporters in Adelaide.

"It is an appropriate course of action, it is a very serious matter, but like any other Australian he is entitled to the presumption of innocence."

Mr Demetriou denied Mr Pratt's actions had brought the AFL into disrepute.

"He loves the Carlton Football Club and doesn't want to do anything that will harm the club," said the AFL CEO.

Mr Pratt stepped aside from the presidency of Carlton earlier today.

Carlton chief executive Greg Swann confirmed Mr Pratt's decision and said that Stephen Kernahan would replace him.

Mr Swann described the developments as ''disappointing'' but emphasised that Mr Pratt deserved a presumption of innocence.

He also denied that the develpment were embarrassing for the club which has endured several high-profile scandals in recent times.

When asked if Mr Pratt would return as president if the charges were dropped, he answered, “the answer is yes if it happens quickly.”

He then described Mr Pratt’s mood when he spoke to him this morning.

“He was obviously very disappointed with what had happened.”

Mr Pratt faces up to four years' jail after being charged yesterday with lying about his knowledge of a price-fixing scandal, an exclusive report in today's Herald Sun reveals.
But Mr Elliott, who was made bankrupt and banned for four years from company dealings with $9.2 million in debts while head of a rice-milling company, said Mr Pratt was innocent until proven guilty.

“I’ve already talked to the family this morning. But it’s a very difficult thing, but once you’re charged people think you’re guilty – that’s the problem. I had the same problem. It’s not a very nice thing hanging over your head, but you’ve just got to stand up and fight," Mr Elliott said.

"I think it's very vindicative act myself, it's typical of the tall poppy syndrome in this country. He's a fantastic man and so generous to the community."

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission alleges the chief of cardboard manufacturer Visy gave false and misleading evidence before a commission hearing in 2005.

In a summons lodged in the Federal Court yesterday, the ACCC charges Mr Pratt with breaching the Trade Practices Act by denying knowledge of a plot to fix the price of cardboard boxes with Visy's rival, Amcor.

The ACCC released a statement today saying Mr Pratt's case would be set down for July 7, and said Mr Pratt had not entered a plea.

In evidence before the commission, Mr Pratt was asked by Peter Jopling, QC, if he had a conversation in the All Nations Hotel in Richmond on May 21, 2001, with Amcor's former chief executive officer, Russell Jones.

Mr Jopling said Mr Jones had told the commission they discussed the price-fixing arrangement and how it protected market share.

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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2008, 05:33:41 PM »
"It is an appropriate course of action, it is a very serious matter, but like any other Australian he is entitled to the presumption of innocence."

Mr Demetriou denied Mr Pratt's actions had brought the AFL into disrepute.

"He loves the Carlton Football Club and doesn't want to do anything that will harm the club," said the AFL CEO.
Presumption of innocence for someone found guilty of price-fixing in the biggest corporate crime in Australian history. Good one Andy D :stupid.

Geez what stiff penalties they offer now  ::). $8,800 is loose change for Pratt.
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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2008, 06:23:02 PM »
"It is an appropriate course of action, it is a very serious matter, but like any other Australian he is entitled to the presumption of innocence."

Mr Demetriou denied Mr Pratt's actions had brought the AFL into disrepute.

"He loves the Carlton Football Club and doesn't want to do anything that will harm the club," said the AFL CEO.
Presumption of innocence for someone found guilty of price-fixing in the biggest corporate crime in Australian history. Good one Andy D :stupid.

Geez what stiff penalties they offer now  ::). $8,800 is loose change for Pratt.

Shouldn't the same be said of Ben Cousins? Was not charged and has not been convicted. Double standards if you ask me.

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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2008, 12:00:50 AM »
"It is an appropriate course of action, it is a very serious matter, but like any other Australian he is entitled to the presumption of innocence."

Mr Demetriou denied Mr Pratt's actions had brought the AFL into disrepute.

"He loves the Carlton Football Club and doesn't want to do anything that will harm the club," said the AFL CEO.
Presumption of innocence for someone found guilty of price-fixing in the biggest corporate crime in Australian history. Good one Andy D :stupid.

Geez what stiff penalties they offer now  ::). $8,800 is loose change for Pratt.

Shouldn't the same be said of Ben Cousins? Was not charged and has not been convicted. Double standards if you ask me.
Andy D didn't use to work for Cousins  :whistle
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Re: Carlton woes
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2008, 01:42:21 PM »
Patrick Smith has let loose at Pratt, Carlton and the AFL in the Australian.

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Blues’ dark stain disappears
Patrick Smith
The Australian
June 21, 2008

RICHARD PRATT’s presidency at Carlton has been a dark stain on football since the moment he admitted last November to his substantial part in the Visy price-fixing scandal. The longer he stayed in charge of the club the more AFL football became increasingly tarnished and dirty.

And this in the 150th-year celebration of the birth of the indigenous game. Dark stain, darker moment. Not even a muted three cheers. The longer Pratt remained the more obvious it became that hardly anybody had the spine to tell the businessman his continued tenure was untenable.

As Pratt flaunted his position, the damage to the AFL name grew. It was apparent that the league would massage its principles according, not to what was appropriate or ethical, but what was convenient.

Standards were flexible, bend this way and that according to the size of the chequebook and bulk of the contact book.

Full article at:
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/yoursay/index.php/theaustralian/comments/blues_dark_stain_disappears/