Daniel Jackson [merged]

[Beren]

i don't understand why everone is dissing jacko, he trys his heart out, sure he makes some mistakes but he seems liek the only one trying out there
i dont see newman tackling?
i never see deledio get a hard ball get?
yet i see jacko do this week in week out
give him a break

Careful - you can diss Jacko all you like here but beware if you point out Lids' half efforts.

[tigersalive]

i don't understand why everone is dissing jacko, he trys his heart out, sure he makes some mistakes but he seems liek the only one trying out there
i dont see newman tackling?
i never see deledio get a hard ball get?
yet i see jacko do this week in week out
give him a break

just a typical over reaction from most, Jacko will never be a star but hes good enough to be in the side as a soldier.

Good enough soldier to be part of a Premiership team?

Not if after 7 years of development he still kicks like poo and makes crap decisions time and time again.

[RedanTiger]

Jacko was clearly our top possession for most of the night but sheesh he has no clue what to do with the footy most of the time constantly making the wrong decision disposing the ball (not robinson crusoe there also). He was a younger version of Tucky last night blindly kicking. I can see our classier young guys forcing him out in time if he isn't traded first.

Interesting to see all you followers that agree with the "experts" on these boards. Love the damning with faint praise "oh yeah he got most of his possessions because the opposition let him." Yeah like that shark off their tap on HFF in last qtr. Like Tuck, you football "experts" always have an excuse why Jackson and Tuck get so many possessions over your pet players. Take a look at the B&F 1-Deledio, 2-Jackson, 3-Newman, 4-Tambling, 5-Cousins, 6-Foley, 7-Tuck, 8-Riewoldt, 9-Polo, 10-Morton.

I refuse to accept this claptrap that Jackson, Tuck and Polo are not good enough.
 

I can clearly recall at least two really classy kicks around opponents and over forty yards into leading players in the corridor. Can't remember any one else except Cousins doing the same.

[RedanTiger]

Jacko should of nailed that goal in the second......thats what leaders do.

How right you are, just like the single goal Deledio kicked or the none that Cotchin kicked even though both played forward of Jackson or the 2.2 that Riewoldt kicked as our sole tall forward. Yep it's all Jackson's fault. And he's so soft Jackson in only laying 5 tackles when Cotchin laid a ripper single one.

Yep Leaders don't get all their possessions in the guts off their own bat like Jackson, they get them fed to them like Cotchin, Riewoldt and Deledio.

The double standards here are incredible. I bet you guys were really hanging out for that missed kick at goal that you could highlight and use it to say why the other 22 were also crap.

[TigerLand]

Jackson cant be seen as an elite player and judging him like one is unfair.

He'd be on par with a Clinton Jones, Shane O'Bree etc. guys who have played in top 4 sides that are fringe players and aren't targeted casue tehy have team mates that are more capable. Put Clinton Jones in Jacko's shoes and he goes from a gun player to what Jacko is. It helps being in a good environment.

Jacko needs to be in a good side oterwise ofcourse he's going to look bad when he's made to distribute the footy 20+ times.

I much rather him as a run with player anyway.

[Chuck17]

Careful - you can diss Jacko all you like here but beware if you point out Lids' half efforts.

Lids? Huh, if you want a half effort have a look at Connors skipping behind his man.

[tony_montana]

i don't understand why everone is dissing jacko, he trys his heart out, sure he makes some mistakes but he seems liek the only one trying out there
i dont see newman tackling?
i never see deledio get a hard ball get?
yet i see jacko do this week in week out
give him a break

just a typical over reaction from most, Jacko will never be a star but hes good enough to be in the side as a soldier.

Good enough soldier to be part of a Premiership team?

Not if after 7 years of development he still kicks like poo and makes crap decisions time and time again.

premiership team? are you effin serious? lol man if we got rid of every player who we cant see part of a premiership side do you know how many players we'd be left with??

how about we learn to walk before we run and aim to make a side that is firstly competitive letalone a premiership side, tell you what, in 5 years, if we've finally put together a side that is a consistent finals bound side then i'll happily look at upgrading him along with a few others, until then, there are 20 players or so ahead of him that need to get necked!

[tigersalive]

i don't understand why everone is dissing jacko, he trys his heart out, sure he makes some mistakes but he seems liek the only one trying out there
i dont see newman tackling?
i never see deledio get a hard ball get?
yet i see jacko do this week in week out
give him a break

just a typical over reaction from most, Jacko will never be a star but hes good enough to be in the side as a soldier.

Good enough soldier to be part of a Premiership team?

Not if after 7 years of development he still kicks like poo and makes crap decisions time and time again.

premiership team? are you effin serious? lol man if we got rid of every player who we cant see part of a premiership side do you know how many players we'd be left with??

Yep.  Deadly serious.

Probably why we got rid of 14 last year and will give a good go this year delisting players who cannot be part of our next premiership team.  It can't happen all at once but it's happening.

I hope someone makes him watch and re-consider every turnover and poor decision in the post game so he learns from it.  He still has time on his side and is a smart cookie but it doesn't translate onto the park and doesn't look like ever happening.

Should have traded him last year or at least shopped him to see what we could get in terms of a draft pick.

[TigerTimeII]

ffs if u cant hit targets by foot u should not get a game no matter how tough u are
deledio can kick, jackson cant
jacko should be dropped unless some miracle happens and he can hit targets
ame goes for connors thomson and hisloppy

[Mr Magic]

Will have to be upgraded eventually but on Thursday was clearly one of our best.

[TigerTimeII]

Will have to be upgraded eventually but on Thursday was clearly one of our best.

just because he was hard and tough and got some possies does not make it a good game . his kicking was woefulln carlton kicked 12 goals directly from our turnovers, that 2/3 of their score 12 out of 18 

thats because of guys like jackson,  hisloppy, nahas, moore, connors, thomson who repeatedlly cant kick and hit tartgets or make th ewrong decisions
wake up u fools

[Penelope]

Jackson cant be seen as an elite player and judging him like one is unfair.

He'd be on par with a Clinton Jones, Shane O'Bree etc. guys who have played in top 4 sides that are fringe players and aren't targeted casue tehy have team mates that are more capable. Put Clinton Jones in Jacko's shoes and he goes from a gun player to what Jacko is. It helps being in a good environment.

Jacko needs to be in a good side oterwise ofcourse he's going to look bad when he's made to distribute the footy 20+ times.

I much rather him as a run with player anyway.

Good call.
Jackson is a hard working second tier mid. His deficiencies are highlighted because of poor performances by those around him. A good side would find a role for him and to a certain degree hide the deficiencies.
It's a worry that a player who seems to be best suited to a primary shutdown role is one of the highest possession winners.

[Infamy]

ffs if u cant hit targets by foot u should not get a game no matter how tough u are
deledio can kick, jackson cant

I actually think Jackson can kick, but with one condition, when he's found a legitimate option to kick to
His flaw is either just bombing it long to no one, or choosing a terrible option that either requires a pin point "thread the eye of a needle" kick to pull it off, or to a player under the pump.
Some of his deliveries to a leading forward are bullet like worm burners that hit them on the chest
Always has and always will be a decision making thing for me

The guy is pretty good at winning the ball in congestion and stoppages, so when we have more players running in support then he should be instructed to handball to the first option as long as he doesn't have an opponent hanging off him already. Haven't really noticed him performing as many stopping roles in his last dozen games, so perhaps he should go back and focus on what he's good at.

[TigerTimeII]

ffs if u cant hit targets by foot u should not get a game no matter how tough u are
deledio can kick, jackson cant

I actually think Jackson can kick, but with one condition, when he's found a legitimate option to kick to
His flaw is either just bombing it long to no one, or choosing a terrible option that either requires a pin point "thread the eye of a needle" kick to pull it off, or to a player under the pump.
Some of his deliveries to a leading forward are bullet like worm burners that hit them on the chest
Always has and always will be a decision making thing for me

The guy is pretty good at winning the ball in congestion and stoppages, so when we have more players running in support then he should be instructed to handball to the first option as long as he doesn't have an opponent hanging off him already. Haven't really noticed him performing as many stopping roles in his last dozen games, so perhaps he should go back and focus on what he's good at.

i love his hardness, he is ur only tough guy on th elist and loves the biff, but he cant kick and his decision making is costing us badly, hope he improves asap in these areas or else he gc17 for him

[Francois Jackson]

ffs if u cant hit targets by foot u should not get a game no matter how tough u are
deledio can kick, jackson cant

I actually think Jackson can kick, but with one condition, when he's found a legitimate option to kick to
His flaw is either just bombing it long to no one, or choosing a terrible option that either requires a pin point "thread the eye of a needle" kick to pull it off, or to a player under the pump.
Some of his deliveries to a leading forward are bullet like worm burners that hit them on the chest
Always has and always will be a decision making thing for me

The guy is pretty good at winning the ball in congestion and stoppages, so when we have more players running in support then he should be instructed to handball to the first option as long as he doesn't have an opponent hanging off him already. Haven't really noticed him performing as many stopping roles in his last dozen games, so perhaps he should go back and focus on what he's good at.

I think you need to watch the tape again from friday night. He had all the time in the world yet missed the big sticks from a 35-40 metre set shot. What a disgrace and not for the first time he pulled off something like that.

the guy cannot kick and if your selecting him based on the fact "he tries hard" then gee whiz no wonder we are about collect another spoon.

Its exactly players like him who have currency which should be shopped around. He is Sugar Johnson Mark 2