Daniel Jackson [merged]

[WilliamPowell]

Jackson is not a vice captain 

he is in the leadership group but not a vice or deputy vice captain

BTW from where I was sitting it was agian Cotch and to a lesser extent Lids who called them and spoke but I will stand corrected on that

The fact that the club captain stood outside the circle after the game and didn't speak to the players is the thing I am most furious about. It was IMHO an indictment on his leadership, after taking so many steps forward as a leader in the last 18 months, that one display was a massive leap backwards IMHO

And just on Jackson - today highlighted yet again why he should be traded. The footy smarts of pea

[yellowandback]

Daniel Jackson leaves me cold

[gerkin greg]

Loves travelling
Loves foreign cultures
Loves Vietnamese food
Loves media street
Can't play footy

the TMOTF was born for western Sydney

[TigerLand]

Jackson is not a vice captain  

he is in the leadership group but not a vice or deputy vice captain

BTW from where I was sitting it was agian Cotch and to a lesser extent Lids who called them and spoke but I will stand corrected on that

The fact that the club captain stood outside the circle after the game and didn't speak to the players is the thing I am most furious about. It was IMHO an indictment on his leadership, after taking so many steps forward as a leader in the last 18 months, that one display was a massive leap backwards IMHO

And just on Jackson - today highlighted yet again why he should be traded. The footy smarts of pea

If you watch the replay all it shows is Jackson speaking and a bit of Foley.

What did you expect Newman to do they had finished by the time he got there on 1 leg.

Newman speaks after every game, not the end of the world. Far bigger problems than this.

[WilliamPowell]

If you watch the replay all it shows is Jackson speaking and a bit of Foley.

What did you expect Newman to do they had finished by the time he got there on 1 leg.

Newman speaks after every game, not the end of the world. Far bigger problems than this.

I haven't watched the replay pope because I was at the game, can only go by what I saw happening in front of me

Regarding Newman, I can assure you he came out on the ground after the siren and he stood at the back of the circle looking at the grass while the talking was going on

Sorry but not good enough IMHO

[TigerLand]

If you watch the replay all it shows is Jackson speaking and a bit of Foley.

What did you expect Newman to do they had finished by the time he got there on 1 leg.

Newman speaks after every game, not the end of the world. Far bigger problems than this.

I haven't watched the replay pope because I was at the game, can only go by what I saw happening in front of me

Regarding Newman, I can assure you he came out on the ground after the siren and he stood at the back of the circle looking at the grass while the talking was going on

Sorry but not good enough IMHO

I think thats a bit rough WP.
 
From someone who has lead a sporting side, when your losing there is only so much you can say. Newman has probably said it all. "Not good enough, put it behind you, gotta work harder, gotta train harder, listen to Dimma" etc.

From what I saw Newman was hobbling towards an already established huddle and when he got there the huddle was 3 players thick.

What do you expect of him? Barge through the huddle and say what he's been saying for the past 6 weeks after another belting?

[Hellenic Tiger]

Who cares Pope. No point closing the gate after the horse as bolted.
Jako addressing the group is equivalent to Ted Bundy instructing self defence classes for females.

[WilliamPowell]

I think thats a bit rough WP.
 
From someone who has lead a sporting side, when your losing there is only so much you can say. Newman has probably said it all. "Not good enough, put it behind you, gotta work harder, gotta train harder, listen to Dimma" etc.

From what I saw Newman was hobbling towards an already established huddle and when he got there the huddle was 3 players thick.

What do you expect of him? Barge through the huddle and say what he's been saying for the past 6 weeks after another belting?

You're not the only one who's led a sporting side Pope so sorry that doesn't wash

I expect him to front and square amongst his players not stading outside the group staring at the grass

[Dice]

From someone who has lead a sporting side

And how did your synchronised swimming team perform in the season when you were captain Popey ? 

[Coach]

 

[yellowandback]

Who cares Pope. No point closing the gate after the horse as bolted.
Jako addressing the group is equivalent to Ted Bundy instructing self defence classes for females.

Or Brendan fevola presenting at gamblers anon

[TigerLand]

I think thats a bit rough WP.
 
From someone who has lead a sporting side, when your losing there is only so much you can say. Newman has probably said it all. "Not good enough, put it behind you, gotta work harder, gotta train harder, listen to Dimma" etc.

From what I saw Newman was hobbling towards an already established huddle and when he got there the huddle was 3 players thick.

What do you expect of him? Barge through the huddle and say what he's been saying for the past 6 weeks after another belting?

You're not the only one who's led a sporting side Pope so sorry that doesn't wash

I expect him to front and square amongst his players not stading outside the group staring at the grass

I've been a aprt of successful and non successful sides, not trying to patronise anyone. I'm sure we all have, think its very pety to throw stones at Newman for not addressing the troops every week. Thats what a leadership group is for. Shoulder the load.

[Hellenic Tiger]

I think thats a bit rough WP.
 
From someone who has lead a sporting side, when your losing there is only so much you can say. Newman has probably said it all. "Not good enough, put it behind you, gotta work harder, gotta train harder, listen to Dimma" etc.

From what I saw Newman was hobbling towards an already established huddle and when he got there the huddle was 3 players thick.

What do you expect of him? Barge through the huddle and say what he's been saying for the past 6 weeks after another belting?

You're not the only one who's led a sporting side Pope so sorry that doesn't wash

I expect him to front and square amongst his players not stading outside the group staring at the grass

I've been a aprt of successful and non successful sides, not trying to patronise anyone. I'm sure we all have, think its very pety to throw stones at Newman for not addressing the troops every week. Thats what a leadership group is for. Shoulder the load.

At Hawthorn I see Hodge addressing at Collingwood they all crowd around Maxi or Harley at Geelong when he played.
I can't imagine those guys injured or not, not being front and centre post match to address their teams.
Small thing but those three teams are the last three to win flags. Leadership creates winners.
Lamentably we lack it hence we have very few who stand up in a time of need.

[WilliamPowell]

I've been a aprt of successful and non successful sides, not trying to patronise anyone.

Really, certainly seems like it. Then why raise it? 

At Hawthorn I see Hodge addressing at Collingwood they all crowd around Maxi or Harley at Geelong when he played.
I can't imagine those guys injured or not, not being front and centre post match to address their teams.
Small thing but those three teams are the last three to win flags. Leadership creates winners.
Lamentably we lack it hence we have very few who stand up in a time of need.

Exactly Tucker 

[TigerLand]

I've been a aprt of successful and non successful sides, not trying to patronise anyone.

Really, certainly seems like it. Then why raise it? 

At Hawthorn I see Hodge addressing at Collingwood they all crowd around Maxi or Harley at Geelong when he played.
I can't imagine those guys injured or not, not being front and centre post match to address their teams.
Small thing but those three teams are the last three to win flags. Leadership creates winners.
Lamentably we lack it hence we have very few who stand up in a time of need.

Exactly Tucker 

I raised it so it validates my argument that there is only so much you can say before you start treating the group like babies. No need to get pissy over it.

There grown men WP... They don't need their skipper to give them a ge up or dressing down on the ground after every single match. Pot Adelaide Round 22 last year, at half time Cotchin gave the boys a G up the back side after a woeful first half. Did we care that it wasn't Newman?

Newman misses 1 address? Who cares.