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Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« on: October 12, 2007, 11:09:32 AM »
If the trades reported are right then we only have 2 picks in the top 50  :-\. We really need to find another pick in the top 25-30 by 2pm today. Picking up just 2 kids is nowhere near enough for where we are at.

Our picks 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
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Re: Our picks
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 11:12:01 AM »
each club is also required to have 3 picks. We will be picking at 51 lol. Someone at Coburgs gonna get real lucky, real lucky.

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Re: Our picks
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 12:28:32 PM »
What about one of those Caruso (??) boys - Nat or Fort?

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Re: Our picks
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2007, 12:35:21 PM »
If the trades reported are right then we only have 2 picks in the top 50  :-\. We really need to find another pick in the top 25-30 by 2pm today. Picking up just 2 kids is nowhere near enough for where we are at.

Our picks 2, 18, 51, 67, ...

if say gourdis gets through to 18 , then our picks wont be an issue

picks can be very over rated.  we have mitch, who is still very young and really a quality player. we may get his bro from the dawks, and he is younger and has good size and prob better than any 191 cm player we have.

if we get cotchin/cale morton at 2, and say gourdis at 18, we will end pretty good and maybe better if a damn good player falls into the psd

jordy is also still young and this yr is a pretty week draft and maybe the rfc brainstrust have considered this

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Re: Our picks
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2007, 03:19:49 PM »
When you see the Eagles having 4 picks in the top 22 and we as wooden spooners have just 2 in the top 50 it shows what we are up against. In next year's draft, no matter where we finish, we need to draft a whole bunch of kids to make up for this year. Not drafting enough kids is how we ended up with the huge middle age-bracket hole we have now in the first place  :scream.   

What about one of those Caruso (??) boys - Nat or Fort?
Silvester and Neville would be in the mix too.
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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2007, 03:50:09 PM »
We need to take into account the players we've added in trades as well though. We can't acquire good players without giving up picks, best to look at the draft and trade period as a whole to see what we've gained. No we don't have many high picks, but those picks are no guarantee to be any good.

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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2007, 03:55:47 PM »
agree jezza, and really mitch is a top 10 pick, even top 5

he is still young , very young, and our list is still young. draft means nothing to us this yr, as we already have enough kids.

history shows that most kids in the draft dont even last 3 yrs anyway and draft 2007 wont be one to brag about in yrs to come 4 most clubs

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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2007, 06:01:42 PM »
agree jezza, and really mitch is a top 10 pick, even top 5

he is still young , very young, and our list is still young. draft means nothing to us this yr, as we already have enough kids.

history shows that most kids in the draft dont even last 3 yrs anyway and draft 2007 wont be one to brag about in yrs to come 4 most clubs

Then how do you develop your future players & stars if you don't draft and have the appropriate development resopurces in place?

Do you just trade ??  Trading recycled players has not won a single premiership.

When will RFC learn ??

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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2007, 06:17:37 PM »
agree jezza, and really mitch is a top 10 pick, even top 5

he is still young , very young, and our list is still young. draft means nothing to us this yr, as we already have enough kids.

history shows that most kids in the draft dont even last 3 yrs anyway and draft 2007 wont be one to brag about in yrs to come 4 most clubs

Then how do you develop your future players & stars if you don't draft and have the appropriate development resopurces in place?

Do you just trade ??  Trading recycled players has not won a single premiership.

When will RFC learn ??

hello, mitch is only what 20! jordan isnt that old either and still has at leat 7 yrs in him.

you dont have to just develop kids from the draft , that is not the only way, picking up young players and allowing them to develop further and better themselves is not a sin or bad way about doing things.

at least by picking up tried young players you know what u r getting, unlike the draft where its a lottery.

Geez, it isnit doom and gloom, we havent given up picks 4 recyled old hacks, we actuallu gave up picks for young skillful players with alot to offer.

wow we gave pick 35 away ,  :whistle and 19. can tell you now, that no one in this yrs draft passed pick 20 will become a top liner. we gave up stuff all for 2 very handy players ,  2players that are much better than most of our list

mitch and jordy will put pressure an many of our duds to shape up or ship out.

kids in the draft are no guarantee 4 success, look how many kids that get drafted are gone within 3 yrs

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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »
agree jezza, and really mitch is a top 10 pick, even top 5

he is still young , very young, and our list is still young. draft means nothing to us this yr, as we already have enough kids.

history shows that most kids in the draft dont even last 3 yrs anyway and draft 2007 wont be one to brag about in yrs to come 4 most clubs

Then how do you develop your future players & stars if you don't draft and have the appropriate development resopurces in place?

Do you just trade ??  Trading recycled players has not won a single premiership.

When will RFC learn ??

they will never learn im sure.

can someone tell me what the hell is happening with oakley-nicholls and casserly.

come this time next year id say we will be referring to those 2 as we do now with meyer and schulz.

ive had enough of these duds getting a game at punt rd and not putting in the effort.

player development i believe is the issue and whoever is in control of this area should be sacked immediately.
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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2007, 06:40:34 PM »
agree jezza, and really mitch is a top 10 pick, even top 5

he is still young , very young, and our list is still young. draft means nothing to us this yr, as we already have enough kids.

history shows that most kids in the draft dont even last 3 yrs anyway and draft 2007 wont be one to brag about in yrs to come 4 most clubs

Then how do you develop your future players & stars if you don't draft and have the appropriate development resopurces in place?

Do you just trade ??  Trading recycled players has not won a single premiership.

When will RFC learn ??

they will never learn im sure.

can someone tell me what the hell is happening with oakley-nicholls and casserly.

come this time next year id say we will be referring to those 2 as we do now with meyer and schulz.

ive had enough of these duds getting a game at punt rd and not putting in the effort.

player development i believe is the issue and whoever is in control of this area should be sacked immediately.


wash your mouth out. Cass will be a very good player for us

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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 06:50:57 PM »
i stand corrected then..but whats his deal. where is he???

and oakly-nicholls. would love to know your thoughts on him.

personally i think he will not cut it..
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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2007, 06:52:08 PM »
We need to take into account the players we've added in trades as well though. We can't acquire good players without giving up picks, best to look at the draft and trade period as a whole to see what we've gained. No we don't have many high picks, but those picks are no guarantee to be any good.
Agree with all that jezza except the last bit. IMO you can't be afraid of drafting kids. If you bring through 4-5 kids each year on average then even if half don't make it you still end up with 2-3 who do. Do that for 6 years and you replenish your whole side and end up with a well-balanced list over time. Drafting only 2 kids increases your risk exposure as you're relying on virtually both kids to make it otherwise you're not replenishing your list and it ends up unbalanced like ours is still now. With half our list or more under 22 we may get away with it once. However IMO we can't repeat a similar result of ending up with so few picks in next year's draft or we'll start paying for it down the track.   
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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2007, 06:56:00 PM »
i stand corrected then..but whats his deal. where is he???

and oakly-nicholls. would love to know your thoughts on him.

personally i think he will not cut it..

cass is struggling with injury but he is a class act and the reason i'd prefer not to take Cale Morton. Plays beautifully on the rebound and would be top 5 in terms of kicking at the club. beautiful natural technique and nice connection.

JON i'm struggling with. He had me excited in his U18 days but seems to have stagnated. In his junior days he could make something out of nothing, was suprisingly a very solid kick and looked like a good prospect. I honestly don't know if he will make it. He has the talent, don't let the bad reports knock the talent he has, and i certainly hope with him it is these 'confidence' issues resulting in his poor performances.

I pray he has a strong preseason and show what he is made of. If he continues to dissapoint i will be off his bandwagon

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Re: Our picks - 2, 18, 51, 67, ...
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2007, 05:08:39 AM »
Here's each club's picks. Most clubs have 2 picks inside the top 30. West Coast has the most with 5  :o while the Pies have none lol.

Adelaide: 10, 27, 38, 59, 75, 91
Brisbane: 8, 25, 41, 52, 57, 73, 89
Carlton:    1, 36, 46, 68, 84
Coll'wood: 31, 47, 63, 95, 96 (Barham)
Essendon: 6, 23, 39 (Daniher), 55, 71, 87
Fremantle: 7, 24, 40, 56, 72, 88
Geelong:   17, 34, 44, 50, 62, 82, 90, 98 (Donohue)
Hawthorn:  12, 29, 45, 61, 77, 93
Kangaroos: 15, 32, 37, 64, 80
Melbourne:  4, 14, 21, 53, 69, 85
Port Adel:   16, 28, 33, 49, 65, 81, 97
Richmond:   2, 18, 51, 67, 83
St Kilda:      9, 42, 58, 74
Sydney:      11, 26, 60, 76, 92
West Coast: 3, 13, 20, 22, 30, 54, 78, 94
Bulldogs:      5, 19, 35, 43, 48, 66, 70, 86