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Trade Week Debrief
« on: October 12, 2007, 01:13:48 PM »
Looks like we have finished with Trade Week at RFC. Seems like no more trades. What have you thought of the effort, give it a grade out of 10.


My view is that it is a fail. A 3/10 maybe a 4/10 at best. Seems we had a crack but couldnt get anyone really good to come to us. We overpaid for McMahon but should be hopeful on Morton. We have failed to address some key needs, those needs were espoused by the club itself. There is no key defender and no ruckman. Im sure they tried but unless theres a miracle in the next 45 minutes its

4/10 from me. Its a failing grade unfortunately.


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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 01:17:38 PM »
3/10

Failed to have the effect we wanted and shouldve played more hardball with Dogs over McMahon.


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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 01:19:25 PM »
5/10 for me.

We've done a big upgrade in terms of footskills.

My big hope was for a ruckman in the trade week and I'm disappointed we didn't get Moran. I'm left with the ugly feeling that we'll end up with another stop-gap reject ruckman as insurance when we could have got the same immediate output from someone like Moran, who also has the potential to go on and be a good player.

In addition we didn't bolster our KPP stocks at all, although there was very little on offer that was worth going after. I'll reserve my judgement until after draft time, if we pick up at least 2 talls then it'll be ok. I'm glad we kept Schulz in the end, I think we need the insurance and would have been far too exposed for depth.

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2007, 01:25:17 PM »
mcmahon for pick 19 ( first round pick ) is way over the top, these trades below are what you call great trades. what is miller thinking, 2/10 for me. are these two in mcmahon and morton in our best 22 anyway, if so only just and we gave a first and third round selections. what a joke.


St Kilda receives: Steven King and Charlie Gardiner.
Geelong receives:  St Kilda's round six selection (currently No.90).


St Kilda receives: Adam Schneider and Sean Dempster.
Sydney Swans receive:  St Kilda's round two selection (currently No.26).


Adelaide receives: Brad Moran.
Kangaroos receive: Adelaide's round three selection (currently No.37).


Adelaide receives: Melbourne’s round three selection (currently No.37).
MelbourneFC receives: John Meesen.

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2007, 01:28:22 PM »
here is food 4 thought

lets assess this weeks trade wek next yr after rnd 11, give the boys at least half a yr . then we can assess

what if jorny and mitch turn out to be dynamite, what would u guys rate our trade week then?


if its true that we keep jay and he kkicks 60 goals, then we have won again

its too early to judge anything

and btw , for all th eppl who think we need a ruckman, think again, in a yr that we had no ruck stock, tuck and foley creamed in the clearances and centre breaks.

we need more running power and midfeilders. mitch will start in our midfeild and maybe joel also that jordy can slip down back

too early to judge this week now, so i guess miller and terry are off the hook for 6 months or so


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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2007, 01:28:30 PM »
I'd give it a 6.5

Pretty happy that we didn't blow our important picks once Judd left. I think Morton will be very good and so will McMahon. As far as any backline deficiecies go, Polak will be even better next season and I also expect big things of McGuane & Thirsty with McMahon buzzing around them and picking up any crumbs.

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2007, 01:36:15 PM »
here is food 4 thought

lets assess this weeks trade wek next yr after rnd 11, give the boys at least half a yr . then we can assess

what if jorny and mitch turn out to be dynamite, what would u guys rate our trade week then?


if its true that we keep jay and he kkicks 60 goals, then we have won again

its too early to judge anything

and btw , for all th eppl who think we need a ruckman, think again, in a yr that we had no ruck stock, tuck and foley creamed in the clearances and centre breaks.

we need more running power and midfeilders. mitch will start in our midfeild and maybe joel also that jordy can slip down back

too early to judge this week now, so i guess miller and terry are off the hook for 6 months or so




Schulz kicking 60 goals lol
Morton was good at 35 but is a HFF essentially
McMahon was over the odds at 19 and is a HBF/Wing

We didnt get any key midfielders from what I can see and hoping that Sarge kicks 60 goals- and I hope he does- is a very very big ask considering what hes done till now.

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2007, 01:41:26 PM »

Adelaide receives: Brad Moran.
Kangaroos receive: Adelaide's round three selection (currently No.37).

Moran is the only one on that list that I regret us not getting.

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2007, 01:45:30 PM »
Given the draft is the main way to improve a clubs list i give it a 3/10..
The fact we got a talented 20 year old for 35 saves it from 1/10...

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2007, 01:54:13 PM »
we didn't get a ruckman = failed for me

If we can entice adcock into the PSD that will tie me over though  :gotigers

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2007, 02:35:34 PM »
3/10

* We're left with only 2 draft picks in the top 50. Drafting just 2 kids is poor for a club who should be in full rebuild mode.

* McMahon for pick 19 is paying way over the odds for a type of player we already have plenty of.

* Morton for 35 is a decent trade in a weak draft.   

* We didn't gain a player that would've filled a need of ours on our list.
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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 02:37:10 PM »
So many weakness's in our side where do you start

1 inside mid
two many flankers
Not enough talls
Not enough ruckmen.
Too many grayhounds.

I think that Wallace just went with what he knows best, skills and pace.

Morton :- Only 20 years old? this is a good pick up for 35, could have easily been pick 19

McMahon :- 24 years old probably a year or 2 older than I would have liked went 19 could have easily been 35

If you don't like the numbers on the picks that these two went for, just swap them around and you may feel better, slightly.

I think Wallace has got more confidence in our backs than we first thought or that we just have so many problems that we just can't cover all of them at once.

We need to find another ruckman if simmonds is going to miss a lot of games next year.

For now I will give it a 5 out of 10. The draft, PSD and natural development of existing group all play a part in the determination of good trading.
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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 04:55:44 AM »
Age trade summary...

RICHMOND
2007: 16th 3 wins, 18 losses, 1 draw

TRADED: nil

RECRUITED: Jordan McMahon, Mitch Morton

NATIONAL DRAFT PICKS: 2, 18, 51, 67, 83, 99, 115

THE WASH-UP:

Carlton aside, the most active participant, and it was clear the Tigers were trying to improve immediately without sacrifi cing much future. They did “only” two deals — McMahon acquired at reasonable cost, Morton picked up very cheap — but had a crack at several players, including Judd, and with the pre-season draft ahead, Greg Miller isn’t finished yet.

WHAT THE CLUB SAYS:

"We've improved our list, adding Jordan McMahon and Mitch Morton two great kicks and young guys. Choice two will be a beauty for us ... Jay Schulz wasn't moved the offer from Port Adelaide was unacceptable ..." GREG MILLER (football director)

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/trades-in-full/2007/10/12/1191696179568.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2007, 06:38:37 AM »
3/10

* We're left with only 2 draft picks in the top 50. Drafting just 2 kids is poor for a club who should be in full rebuild mode.

* McMahon for pick 19 is paying way over the odds for a type of player we already have plenty of.

* Morton for 35 is a decent trade in a weak draft.   

* We didn't gain a player that would've filled a need of ours on our list.

Jackstar and Mighytiges agreeing( thats a worry) :thumbsup
We didnt get a player that we needed.
Mightiges, you are correct.
I give Richmond efforts 2 out 10 and that being generous.
Would of let Schultz go for any pick, he cant get a game on a regular basis. Geelong did the right thing getting rid of players they didint want  eg King and Gardiner for one low pick
RFC still doesnt realise we need youth and size at the club.
I still cant get over picking up Jordon McMahon ? Perhaps he has some photos of Plough in the solarium :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop :gobdrop
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Re: Trade Week Debrief
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2007, 06:56:27 AM »
Going to give it 5/10

Shattered we didn't address KPP players, but I'm told this draft is only 20 deep, so I think losing those draft picks has evened out with the players we got.

And we have the pre-season draft to get the best out of that lot.

And when I look at other clubs I don't think there was much in the market this year apart from Judd.

I think we're developing quite a good depth of runners, and that excites me.

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