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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2640 on: March 08, 2020, 12:17:37 PM »
At 30 years of age he is entitled to do whatever
he wants. He gave us outstanding service and owes us nothing. Richmond supporters are behaving like 15 yo petulant kids in their reaction to the Rance retirement. Its bordering on embarrassing.

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2641 on: March 08, 2020, 01:07:26 PM »
At 30 years of age he is entitled to do whatever
he wants. He gave us outstanding service and owes us nothing. Richmond supporters are behaving like 15 yo petulant kids in their reaction to the Rance retirement. Its bordering on embarrassing.

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2642 on: March 08, 2020, 01:18:25 PM »
Good, thanks for stringing us along. Now bugger off and do your thing!

Stringing us along? Think your confusing articles written/reported about him with things he’s actually said.

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2643 on: March 08, 2020, 02:08:58 PM »
Rance still could’ve waited another two years before retiring especially since we are this good.
It’s only two more years of a lifetime but it’s  a heck of a long time out of footy when it’s all said and done

At 32 or 33 you’ve got a whole life to do whatever you want to do and achieve All you want.

Granted he doesn’t have to stay if he doesn’t want to buy he could’ve still put a hold on that life balance for the good of the team and that also is selflessness in a sense.

That said, splitting with the Mrs can’t be underestimated in all this and ultimately family is more important than footy at the end of the day. Let’s hope they can work it out.
The club that keeps giving.

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'Conflicted' ex-Tiger Rance wasn't told to quit by his church (Age)
« Reply #2644 on: March 15, 2020, 06:41:38 PM »
'Conflicted' ex-Tiger Rance wasn't told to quit by his church

Michael Gleeson
The Age
March 15, 2020 — 6.06pm


Alex Rance's church has weighed in on his abrupt retirement from football, saying the Richmond premiership defender's decision was personal and not dictated by his religion.

Rance, a devout Jehovah's Witness, referenced his faith and family when he made the extraordinary off-season call to walk away from the Tigers and the game, just as he was nearing a return to the field following the knee reconstruction that caused him to miss the club's second flag in three seasons.

But, as Richmond prepare to launch their premiership defence against Carlton at the MCG on Thursday night (assuming an escalation in the coronavirus crisis does not force the AFL to cancel games), Rance's evangelical Christian church has said it did not thrust the decision upon him.

"Truthfully it boils down to the fact that we have no authority to tell anyone what to do," said David Eades, the Jehovah's Witness spokesman for southern Australia.

So the church would not have said to Rance 'we don't want you to play'? "No. It cannot happen," Eades said, stressing that he was not talking directly to Rance's situation but to anyone in a similar position.

"If a person was making a choice and came and asked for advice it would all be Bible-based advice recognising that the person asking has developed their own faith and maybe just wants to bounce it off someone else.

"In the end we would never say to someone 'so with all of that in mind you are definitely not going to do this,' that runs completely contrary to how our organisation works.

"It's all personal choice, it truly is, because otherwise that would put us in some sort of God-like position to be telling him what to do.

"I can't talk on behalf of him personally but the rationale is if someone is finding, whether it be football or any other form of employment, that it is getting in the way of their faith, we as a Jehovah's Witness would always put our faith and Bible principles before our employment.

"Your religion is your choice, your employment is your choice."

Rance's decision was the most remarkable early retirement of a healthy, fit footballer (albeit one returning from long-term injury) that the AFL has seen.

While he had come close to retiring in 2015 for religious reasons and admitted to wrestling with the compatibility of his faith and his football throughout his career, the decision when it came in December was still stunning.

That a player could, at the peak of their professional career, voluntarily walk away from the elite level of the game and tear up a contract that would leave millions of dollars on the table is unprecedented in the AFL.

This was not a minor player. Rance was among the most gifted in the game, a six time All-Australian, a premiership defender, a player who will, even in early retirement, be regarded as possibly the best defender Richmond has ever had.

He was set to return to a side that had just won a flag and stood poised – especially with his re-inclusion – to be a strong chance to win another flag.

Thus the decision left many bewildered. The manner of the announcement, coming in the lead-up to Christmas via a video statement but not a press conference and without immediate gushing tributes from his teammates, only furthered the uncertainty of those who carried doubts over the truth of the reasons for the decision.

When days later it emerged Rance's marriage had also broken down, the cynicism strengthened that there were other reasons behind the decision.

Undoubtedly the marriage breakdown played a part in Rance's retirement decision, according to those close to him. The timing of the two decisions was not coincidental.

The Jehovah's Witnesses, Eades acknowledged, hold the view that a marriage vow is forever and that a couple wanting to separate must demonstrate they have taken all the steps they can to preserve the marriage.

Many close to and around Rance believe the retirement decision was a demonstration to the church and his wife of his commitment to try to save the marriage. He was showing that he was willing to forsake his football for his faith, and so put his faith and his wife first.

It is also true he wanted to spend more time doing church work – he has since been door-knocking in Melbourne's southern suburbs, spreading the church's word.

Eades rejected the suggestion that it would have been preferable for Rance to continue to play and retain a high profile and so reach a bigger audience for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

"You could look at it like that, but we don't," Eades said.

Rance first told the club in July last year that he was again looking at retiring. Things calmed for a period as he was not playing and in some ways that made it easier to balance the competing pressures. He wrestled with his decision, having ongoing conversations with senior football and club figures and his manager as well as his church mentors.

"You have never met a more conflicted person than he was in that six months," a senior Richmond person said.

Some at Richmond believe he did not want to retire but felt it was the right thing to do – he still loves footy – and so also would not be surprised were he to return to the club asking about a comeback.

On the day he finally told the club he was committed to retiring, he said he wanted to tell the players then have a final training session with them in the following week, when he had been due to return to main training for the first time after his injury.

The club explained this was a mixed message and that he should be either in or out. He is out … for now at least.

Now the season is to begin, quietly, without a crowd at the game but also without a Rance in the Richmond backline. Richmond fans would likely feel no closer to truly grasping why he is not out there.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/conflicted-ex-tiger-rance-wasn-t-told-to-quit-by-his-church-20200315-p54a9x.html

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2645 on: March 15, 2020, 07:18:15 PM »
Enough is enough with this.  Time to move on.

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2646 on: March 16, 2020, 03:33:15 PM »
gagf rance + jw's

don't come knocking unless you wanna play

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2647 on: May 06, 2020, 03:49:46 PM »
Ross Lyon lifts the lid on secret meetings and failed Freo trades

May 6, 2020
Ben Waterworth
FOX SPORTS


ALEX RANCE

Before Rance turned himself into one of the generation’s best key defenders and shocked the footy world by retiring at the age of 30, Ross Lyon and Fremantle believed they were a “real opportunity” to lure the Tiger west.

The Dockers made a play for Rance, a WA junior, after the 2014 season. Months later, he confirmed Freo was “one of the clubs I was contemplating about going to”.

Lyon vividly remembers meeting Rance and “really enjoyed” his company.

“I remember talking to Alex when we tried to get him to Fremantle. He was really engaging and that was before he really came on at Richmond. Even then he was probably talking about retiring early and a lot of other aspects to his life,” Lyon told AFL Media.

“We would have spent four or five hours together in a room at Crown … and it was remarkably easy. But even it shocked me when he said ‘look, I could potentially just retire in two years’.

“They’d just been beaten in a final by Port Adelaide over there. How they were playing then compared to how they’re playing now and defending is quite different. So I remember having footage and saying ‘we would do this a bit different, a bit more team defence’ – like they’ve got now.

“I thought we were a real opportunity, because it went on for a fair while. I thought we were in with a really good show.

“But was he the right fit for us? Because we had Alex Pearce coming through as well.”

Ultimately Rance would remain at the Tigers and play an invaluable role in the drought-breaking 2017 flag. He would also feature in five straight All-Australian teams.

But when Rance retired late last year, Lyon said he wasn’t surprised.

“When he left the game – and I’m not sure what the reasons are – but for a balanced life, that stayed with me when I left (the 2014 meeting) that he could just go here at any time – and he has,” he said.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2020-ross-lyon-fremantle-trades-james-frawley-meeting-alex-rance/news-story/14e2b698b2c429b50325c0f5a780dfc4

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2648 on: May 18, 2020, 09:15:51 PM »
Benny Gale was also asked about Rance tonight by Hutchy and if there was any chance of Rance reconsidering coming back given the interruption to the season and it being pushed back.

Gale: "That train has left the station. Alex is a strong character with an evangelical belief. We've got some good young players to fill some big shoes".

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2649 on: May 18, 2020, 09:21:02 PM »
"That train has left the station."

Brendon Gale says there's been no thought to bring back Alex Rance given the changing landscape of the game and 2020 season.

Watch: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1262337676382011394




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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2650 on: May 19, 2020, 10:17:36 AM »
Imagine a press release that just said.  "I'M BACK"

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2651 on: May 19, 2020, 11:15:28 AM »
Imagine a press release that just said.  "I'M BACK"

and Conca walks out
And you may not think I care for you
When you know down inside that I really do

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2652 on: May 19, 2020, 02:22:28 PM »
Imagine a press release that just said.  "I'M BACK"

Was watching the Last Dance last night and the Jordan baseball hiatus did remind me a lot of the Rance situation.  They just need to get him down for a training session.  That will tickle a nerve and he will be back for another and then another.

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2653 on: May 26, 2020, 12:56:03 AM »
"I'd be having a crack."

Richmond continues to say that the chances of Alex Rance returning to football are slim, but @kanecornes
 and the Footy Classified team want other clubs to put in a call.

https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1264916878494969856

Caro at the end said if Rance did make a comeback it'll unlikely be back at Richmond.

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Re: Rance Retires Effectively Immediately to Focus on Family & Faith
« Reply #2654 on: May 26, 2020, 05:57:02 AM »
Cant see him playing but if he does we should keep him on our list and ask for a first rounder from any club who wants him. We are not a charity.