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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2008, 08:28:41 PM »
you dont have to get insulting.
We'll you can't seem to grasp basic concepts so I'm going for shock, awe & embarass
 
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but since you are so intelligent, you will know that say kerr says to the wce, i want out and want to go to the rfc so trade. so trade week starts and kerr says i want to go or i quit and sit out footy all together. then the tigers say we will trade our 2 rnd pick for kerr and thats it, or trade jon . there is no reason why they wont accept one of those 2 trades if both parties want to separate.
Seeing as I am so intelligent I can point out that you are living in a fantasy land. What player has ever, while under contract, threatened to sit out the game because they weren't traded away. You are pulling stuff out of places I dare not imagine.

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and btw, from what i have heard, after pick 15, the draft is very weak. as miller said last week, this is no superdraft, its very thin and far from it.
That's just an excuse from lazy draft scouts who want a ready made excuse in case their picks don't pan out. If you commit to the draft being good then it puts pressure on you to make sure you get a bloody good player.

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so if you want to start insulting people and resort to that behaviour, call your mother
I don't think you'd want that, she'd come up with far better insults for you than what I can

so kerr is only 24, so why are so many fools on here saying he is 26.  :wallywink lets face facts, kerr is better than any player in this draft, he is worth pick 1.
i say chase him, he would be great for us. imagine deledio, cotchin, kerr, foley, tambling, edwards, tuck and a fit cogs rotating through our midfield.  :gotigers
He'd be 26 next year which is the year he'd be playing for us, that's what matters
Of course you want him, you are clueless

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2008, 09:21:47 PM »
From what I have heard we will offer our first round draft pick plus a second round pick we have obtained from trading Schulz to secure Kerr. I was very upset when I heard this but the more I think of it at 24 he would be worth a first round pick around 6 - 9.

Interesting trade period. Lots of teams will be looking for draft picks and be willing to off load players to get them.

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Where did you get that mail from?

If we are ready to play finals next year (which I'm getting cautiously optimistic we will be) and that it will be first year of a decent run in the finals (4,5,6 years) then I am board with the following conditions:-

1. we still have a decent second round pick (Maybe get the Eagles priority second rounder for our first round and Schultz)
2. we do no other trades unless it is for more draft picks (another 2nd or 3rd rounder would be nice) - we still need at least 3 maybe 4 picks in this draft. There are plenty of good KPs in this draft.

If we are stupid enough to give up pick 19 for Jordy, maybe the EAgles are stupid enough to give up their 19 and Kerr for Schultz and our first 2 picks (probably pick 8 and 26).
 
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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2008, 09:32:28 PM »
I think we are still in the hunt for Warnock which means that our 2nd rounder will disappear to freo. Thats why schulz is rumoured to be leaving for a 2nd rounder, its the 2nd rounder that the eagles want as well.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2008, 09:40:01 PM »
If we give up our early picks for him i think i will finally give any hope of us ever having real success..

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2008, 10:02:41 PM »
With Richardson, Brown, Simmonds, Johnson coming to the end of there careers, I imagine that we have to chase some 24 to 26 yo big names in order to make sure that we dont fall backwards. Also it seems that our first pick will be 7 or 8. Thats not exactly an early pick. Last year we gave away 19 for McMahon. Kerr is a much better than player than McMahon. Kerr will also give more bite to our midfield. Cotchin, Deledio, Foley and Kerr. To be fair, i have to admit thats not bad when you look at it even when I personally believe that we should be bringing in kids.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2008, 10:55:36 PM »
If we give up our early picks for him i think i will finally give any hope of us ever having real success..


I'm just not sure of the logic here.  This guy has a couple of top 3 brownlow finishes under his belt a flag and a couple of AAs as well.  People forget Nathan Brown had a less than angelic image at the Bulldogs - he has matured and I'm sure Daniel Kerr will as well.

Our club actually has a pretty good track record off field - really nothing too serious over the years - we could use this and back ourselves. 

At worst Daniel Kerr would free up the likes of Foley, Lids and Cotchin by taking the oppositions best mid tag.  At best, he could be part of genuine gun midfield team in the comp.
It's that simple Spud
"I discussed (it) with my three daughters, my wife and my 82-year-old mum, because it has really affected me … If those comments … were made about one of my daughters, it would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I would not have liked it at all.”

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2008, 11:08:26 PM »
If we give up our early picks for him i think i will finally give any hope of us ever having real success..


I'm just not sure of the logic here.  This guy has a couple of top 3 brownlow finishes under his belt a flag and a couple of AAs as well.  People forget Nathan Brown had a less than angelic image at the Bulldogs - he has matured and I'm sure Daniel Kerr will as well.

Our club actually has a pretty good track record off field - really nothing too serious over the years - we could use this and back ourselves. 

At worst Daniel Kerr would free up the likes of Foley, Lids and Cotchin by taking the oppositions best mid tag.  At best, he could be part of genuine gun midfield team in the comp.

Off field stuff hey, well lets just see shell we.
We wont mention Andrew Krakouer.
Or Kane Johnson.
Or Brad Ottens.
Or Jay Schulz.
Or Marty McGrath.
Or Royce Vardy.

Have I  missed anyone ???
Nah, nothing too serious with above is there :banghead :banghead :banghead


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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2008, 11:18:19 PM »
If we give up our early picks for him i think i will finally give any hope of us ever having real success..


I'm just not sure of the logic here.  This guy has a couple of top 3 brownlow finishes under his belt a flag and a couple of AAs as well.  People forget Nathan Brown had a less than angelic image at the Bulldogs - he has matured and I'm sure Daniel Kerr will as well.

Our club actually has a pretty good track record off field - really nothing too serious over the years - we could use this and back ourselves. 

At worst Daniel Kerr would free up the likes of Foley, Lids and Cotchin by taking the oppositions best mid tag.  At best, he could be part of genuine gun midfield team in the comp.

Off field stuff hey, well lets just see shell we.
We wont mention Andrew Krakouer.
Or Kane Johnson.
Or Brad Ottens.
Or Jay Schulz.
Or Marty McGrath.
Or Royce Vardy.

Have I  missed anyone ???
Nah, nothing too serious with above is there :banghead :banghead :banghead



100% correct.

Others on here will find something wrong with those names you can bet on that jack
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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2008, 11:29:47 PM »
Come off it, none of those compare to having your phone calls tapped as part of a police investigation on drug syndicates.
Perhaps Krakouer, but even that sounded like it had a bit more to it than a simply assault.
I hardly see how urinating in public or public drunkeness can be compared though, especially when Kerr is a repeat offender.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2008, 11:41:05 PM »
Come off it, none of those compare to having your phone calls tapped as part of a police investigation on drug syndicates.
Perhaps Krakouer, but even that sounded like it had a bit more to it than a simply assault.
I hardly see how urinating in public or public drunkeness can be compared though, especially when Kerr is a repeat offender.

You are funny.
Krakouer ?- I think you should search the internet and have a read sunshine
Kane Johnson, nah peeing on a police station, nah thats not serious, ::)
Players driving over .05, nah thats just a walk in the park , especially when you sponsored by .05 Drink Drive ::)

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2008, 01:17:52 AM »
I didn't say they were non-issues, but they are minor compared to Kerr's repeat offences which include drugs and assault.
Urinating in public however is a serious non-issue and it deserved the slap on the wrist which he got, that's all. To compare it to Kerr is absurd.

I said Krak's was serious, but it was also reported that Krak was king hit by the bloke and the event where he got put in hospital was an arranged fight.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2008, 03:04:03 AM »
I've split the Kerr rumour talk from the SEN mail thread and merged it with this existing Kerr thread as the SEN thread was about an upcoming off-field appointment. Carry on  :cheers.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2008, 07:26:40 AM »
I'm not going to disagree with you Jack re: the transgressions of those players but I also have to agree with Infamy's point.  As I see it, anyone can make a 'minor' mistake that does not reflect too much on either the character of the person or the culture of the club.  Both of these are important considerations when talking about the fibre of your team, that intangible thread that binds good teams together.  Krakouer's was way over the line and as I would hope/expect from the club, he was dispatched as soon as the opportunity arose.  Same with Marty McGrath and Carl Petersen, they were seen to be people that wouldn't fit with the culture the club was trying to build and were removed as soon as it was possible.  The others were all minor, one-off issues that obviously didn't reveal a destabilising character flaw and the players that committed them were given the opportunity to let their football do the hiring and firing.  When weighing up the merits of bringing a player into the club we now seem to place a lot of stock in the quality of the person and this can be seen by the types of draftees and continual references to their character from those inside the club. In my opinion Kerr represents a Krakouer, McGrath or Petersen, allbeit a much more accomplished footballer and that, coupled with the risk that his body is showing signs of early wear and tear, and may not survive a long career, is enough for me to say we don't want him or need him.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2008, 09:11:23 PM »
If we give up our early picks for him i think i will finally give any hope of us ever having real success..


I'm just not sure of the logic here.  This guy has a couple of top 3 brownlow finishes under his belt a flag and a couple of AAs as well.  People forget Nathan Brown had a less than angelic image at the Bulldogs - he has matured and I'm sure Daniel Kerr will as well.

Our club actually has a pretty good track record off field - really nothing too serious over the years - we could use this and back ourselves. 

At worst Daniel Kerr would free up the likes of Foley, Lids and Cotchin by taking the oppositions best mid tag.  At best, he could be part of genuine gun midfield team in the comp.

Off field stuff hey, well lets just see shell we.
We wont mention Andrew Krakouer.
Or Kane Johnson.
Or Brad Ottens.
Or Jay Schulz.
Or Marty McGrath.
Or Royce Vardy.

Have I  missed anyone ???
Nah, nothing too serious with above is there :banghead :banghead :banghead




You have no credibility when it comes to being critical because that is all you do. :shh


Maybe its too much of the old  :banghead :banghead :banghead and your head has gone to mush

You normally throw these in  :rollin and these  :scream to make your point.

Its all a bit incoherent to me, maybe thats why were sacked from Richmond!!!
It's that simple Spud
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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2008, 09:20:38 PM »

You have no credibility when it comes to being critical because that is all you do. :shh


Maybe its too much of the old  :banghead :banghead :banghead and your head has gone to mush

You normally throw these in  :rollin and these  :scream to make your point.

Its all a bit incoherent to me, maybe thats why were sacked from Richmond!!!


He wasn't sacked they just stopped paying him.