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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 08:48:56 PM »
i dont think cogs will make in back in the team. maybe if his body holds up he may take tucks place, but reality is, cogs has slipped away and wont be good or fast enough for footy th eway its played now

Still only 25.

If Cogs can get back to anywhere near our best he will walk into our side, and be one of the better players.

he wont, remember draga?

When Cogs was at his best - B&F winning 2003 he was a superstar.

I think people forget just how good the kid was.

I doubt he will getback to that form, but he is only 25 and superfit.

Will be a massive plus for the next 8 years of this club if he can.

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2008, 12:11:46 AM »
We've been robbed of a great talent.

One of the few with genuine ability in the age bracket we require so desperately, at 25 he should be flying and in the prime of his career, not a broken down crock.

The harsh reality is that every week that passes makes it infinitely more difficult for him to get back to the level he was before the knees. He's basically missed 3 years of football and the game hasn't got any slower..

Mark's situation really is tragic and evidence of how tough football can be.

I wish him well but he needs a major change of fortune in a hurry.

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2008, 08:55:35 AM »
We've been robbed of a great talent.

One of the few with genuine ability in the age bracket we require so desperately, at 25 he should be flying and in the prime of his career, not a broken down crock.

The harsh reality is that every week that passes makes it infinitely more difficult for him to get back to the level he was before the knees. He's basically missed 3 years of football and the game hasn't got any slower..

Mark's situation really is tragic and evidence of how tough football can be.

I wish him well but he needs a major change of fortune in a hurry.

true true.
it seems to always happen to us though
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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2008, 09:26:24 AM »
We've been robbed of a great talent.

One of the few with genuine ability in the age bracket we require so desperately, at 25 he should be flying and in the prime of his career, not a broken down crock.

The harsh reality is that every week that passes makes it infinitely more difficult for him to get back to the level he was before the knees. He's basically missed 3 years of football and the game hasn't got any slower..

Mark's situation really is tragic and evidence of how tough football can be.

I wish him well but he needs a major change of fortune in a hurry.

true true.
it seems to always happen to us though

These sad stories seem to happen in every club but the difference with them and us though is that they have the depth to cover these player disasters while we don't (as was blantantly obvious when Simmonds, Brown etc went down last year)

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2008, 11:19:52 AM »
Coughlan is finished & RFC should  have traded him & not on our list this year, he is a wasted space & will never pull a Tiger jumper on again.
His injury prone & by the time he gets used of playing 4 quarter football again he will not be good enough to push out the younger players of which he once used to be. his given us no service since winning the JD medal & l class him as one of those one year players
cya Cogs thanks for the service your days are numbered, go home Tigers should have taken WA deal some years ago. Look at the money & players we have lost from not making important deals over the years when we have been down & out, Gasper, Hall, Coughlan, we could of got good trade for & brought some youngsters for the rebuild instead of pushing players out the door for no reward.
trading players to other clubs & helping paying for them players in Daffy, Holland, we always come out losers. Stafford was a good deal but we had no-one to carry his work cause lazy money hungry Ottens was not doing his part, which held the club back. Glad that prick has broken down again. Dragacevic we kept him too long & he was a good player went on the win a B&F in SA good on him
If players are long term injured for 2 seasons get rid of them first chance

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2008, 11:23:18 AM »
some good points TM.

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2008, 11:24:28 AM »
 :thumbsup thanks

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2008, 01:08:57 PM »
Coughlan is finished & RFC should  have traded him & not on our list this year, he is a wasted space & will never pull a Tiger jumper on again.
His injury prone & by the time he gets used of playing 4 quarter football again he will not be good enough to push out the younger players of which he once used to be. his given us no service since winning the JD medal & l class him as one of those one year players
cya Cogs thanks for the service your days are numbered, go home Tigers should have taken WA deal some years ago. Look at the money & players we have lost from not making important deals over the years when we have been down & out, Gasper, Hall, Coughlan, we could of got good trade for & brought some youngsters for the rebuild instead of pushing players out the door for no reward.
trading players to other clubs & helping paying for them players in Daffy, Holland, we always come out losers. Stafford was a good deal but we had no-one to carry his work cause lazy money hungry Ottens was not doing his part, which held the club back. Glad that prick has broken down again. Dragacevic we kept him too long & he was a good player went on the win a B&F in SA good on him
If players are long term injured for 2 seasons get rid of them first chance

Load of crap IMO.

* we should trade Cogs? He has no trade value now. 4th round pick at best. Stupid idea.

* you really think if Cogs cannot get back to 80% of his best football our young players; White, Polo etc. are going to keep him out of the side?

* Cogs is a level about Dragacevic

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2008, 06:56:09 PM »
Coughlan is finished & RFC should  have traded him & not on our list this year, he is a wasted space & will never pull a Tiger jumper on again.
His injury prone & by the time he gets used of playing 4 quarter football again he will not be good enough to push out the younger players of which he once used to be. his given us no service since winning the JD medal & l class him as one of those one year players
cya Cogs thanks for the service your days are numbered, go home Tigers should have taken WA deal some years ago. Look at the money & players we have lost from not making important deals over the years when we have been down & out, Gasper, Hall, Coughlan, we could of got good trade for & brought some youngsters for the rebuild instead of pushing players out the door for no reward.
trading players to other clubs & helping paying for them players in Daffy, Holland, we always come out losers. Stafford was a good deal but we had no-one to carry his work cause lazy money hungry Ottens was not doing his part, which held the club back. Glad that prick has broken down again. Dragacevic we kept him too long & he was a good player went on the win a B&F in SA good on him
If players are long term injured for 2 seasons get rid of them first chance

Load of crap IMO.

* we should trade Cogs? He has no trade value now. 4th round pick at best. Stupid idea.

* you really think if Cogs cannot get back to 80% of his best football our young players; White, Polo etc. are going to keep him out of the side?

* Cogs is a level about Dragacevic

load of crap you reckon  :lol ok wanker lets see what you wrote

Coughlan is superfit  :rollin :rollin is he ???? l dont think a brokendown player would be superfit,  :lol in anybodys terms but they are in yours.  so when you start saying people write crap look at yourself first wanker

Coughlan is far from superfit in fact his so broken down he has not been able to give any service for so long,  many are forgetting him.
once he gets over his injuries & then starts training it will take him a season just to catch up to the Coburg players in fitness & skill work he be that rusty 1 good knock would send him back to rehab

stop dreaming about broken players & what they once were, if there out that long,  then thier AFL career is over,  if he makes it back we missed over 3 years service since 2003,  thats good reward & clever thinking to keep & pay big $$$$$$ for someone who is living in rehab
Lucky l'm not running that club he would of been out before Roden & his a 2 time Morrish medalist & playing good football & has played in a Grand Final of which everyone dreams of but he wont want to remember it  :lol

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2008, 12:17:00 AM »
Lucky l'm not running that club he would of been out before Roden & his a 2 time Morrish medalist & playing good football & has played in a Grand Final of which everyone dreams of but he wont want to remember it  :lol

I'd prefer Rodan to Coughlan atm too.
No room for sentiment, unless Cogs get back to something resembling an AFL player soon he should retire.
Tragic it may be but so is the RFC.
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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2008, 12:46:45 AM »
Coughlan is finished & RFC should  have traded him & not on our list this year, he is a wasted space & will never pull a Tiger jumper on again.
His injury prone & by the time he gets used of playing 4 quarter football again he will not be good enough to push out the younger players of which he once used to be. his given us no service since winning the JD medal & l class him as one of those one year players
cya Cogs thanks for the service your days are numbered, go home Tigers should have taken WA deal some years ago. Look at the money & players we have lost from not making important deals over the years when we have been down & out, Gasper, Hall, Coughlan, we could of got good trade for & brought some youngsters for the rebuild instead of pushing players out the door for no reward.
trading players to other clubs & helping paying for them players in Daffy, Holland, we always come out losers. Stafford was a good deal but we had no-one to carry his work cause lazy money hungry Ottens was not doing his part, which held the club back. Glad that prick has broken down again. Dragacevic we kept him too long & he was a good player went on the win a B&F in SA good on him
If players are long term injured for 2 seasons get rid of them first chance

some great point TM  :clapping


Bentleigh we all want to see Richmond succeed but we need to be realistic and not have blind faith or stupidity. Cogs is gawn. For the kids sake and nobody else's on this forum site who have argued for him nor against him I hope to God Allmighty I will be proven wrong but the boys body is not holding up to the rigors of all he has been through and now he has 15 weeks to resurrect something that seemed so unlikely just 5 years ago. Unfortunantely its reality and it hurts but that is all there is to it. His whole career has come down to the next 15 weeks  :-[

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2008, 01:21:06 AM »
So he's gone or he's got 15 weeks left?

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2008, 09:49:47 AM »
Coughlan is finished & RFC should  have traded him & not on our list this year, he is a wasted space & will never pull a Tiger jumper on again.
His injury prone & by the time he gets used of playing 4 quarter football again he will not be good enough to push out the younger players of which he once used to be. his given us no service since winning the JD medal & l class him as one of those one year players
cya Cogs thanks for the service your days are numbered, go home Tigers should have taken WA deal some years ago. Look at the money & players we have lost from not making important deals over the years when we have been down & out, Gasper, Hall, Coughlan, we could of got good trade for & brought some youngsters for the rebuild instead of pushing players out the door for no reward.
trading players to other clubs & helping paying for them players in Daffy, Holland, we always come out losers. Stafford was a good deal but we had no-one to carry his work cause lazy money hungry Ottens was not doing his part, which held the club back. Glad that prick has broken down again. Dragacevic we kept him too long & he was a good player went on the win a B&F in SA good on him
If players are long term injured for 2 seasons get rid of them first chance

some great point TM  :clapping


Bentleigh we all want to see Richmond succeed but we need to be realistic and not have blind faith or stupidity. Cogs is gawn. For the kids sake and nobody else's on this forum site who have argued for him nor against him I hope to God Allmighty I will be proven wrong but the boys body is not holding up to the rigors of all he has been through and now he has 15 weeks to resurrect something that seemed so unlikely just 5 years ago. Unfortunantely its reality and it hurts but that is all there is to it. His whole career has come down to the next 15 weeks  :-[
While we are all rambling on about REALITY. here's my take on it:

Coughlan has had 2 knee constructions - 1 caused by football and 1 caused by surgical complications preventing the 1st one from healing correctly - FACT.
During his comeback he has been stalled by hamstring soreness that is a common by-product of knee surgery - FACT.
He is 25 years old - an age where the body still has a very, very strong recuperative capacity - FACT.
Over his career he has kept himself at the upper level of elite fitness - FACT.
The fitter a human body, the more likely successful recovery from illness or injury - FACT.
He suffered from OP as a young kid when first exposed to the rigours of AFL, just like a significant percentage of other kids, all of whom recover from it and either make it or don't dependant on their ability, not OP - FACT.
No-one on this forum has a functioning crystal ball that can tell us if Coughlan's injury will prevent him from becoming the player he was - FACT.

Many supporters are displaying the same level of impatience and placing the same level of unreasonable expectation on Coughlan's recovery progress as they are on the capacity of our team of kids to succeed immediately on the field - REALITY.
The truth of whether Coughlan is "gawn" or not will only be known in hindsight, probably not until near the end of this season at the earliest and quite possibly not until well into next season - REALITY.

Definition of a supporter (from "The Free Dictionary" website):

supporter - a person who backs a politician or a team etc.; "all their supporters came out for the game"; "they are friends of the library"
admirer, booster, protagonist, champion, friend


Coughlan will have the best chance of a satisfactory recovery with the backing of all the Tiger "supporters" - we would do well to remember that when voicing our "opinions" and claiming them to be "reality".

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2008, 10:15:15 AM »
dont lay your politcal Dictionary rubbish on me
l seen this type of stuff from being involved at a capacity of football for 30+ years as player & coaching
l seen it from past dealing of Richmond holding onto injured players in the past & it does not work
it hold the club back financial & rewards nothing & cost the spot of rising talent to be unleashed
you can beleive all the stuff you like but his body at 25 is not recuperating cause its stuffing shot  :lol  what part of that dont you understand his body is not upto league football anymore its SHOT  :thumbsup so offload him like Gasper, pay him out & promote a rookie at at years end its a free spot for the next younger Coughlan to be breed.

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Re: Cogs' injury update
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2008, 10:27:32 AM »
dont lay your politcal Dictionary rubbish on me
l seen this type of stuff from being involved at a capacity of football for 30+ years as player & coaching
l seen it from past dealing of Richmond holding onto injured players in the past & it does not work
it hold the club back financial & rewards nothing & cost the spot of rising talent to be unleashed
you can beleive all the stuff you like but his body at 25 is not recuperating cause its effing shot  :lol  what part of that dont you understand his body is not upto league football anymore its SHOT  :thumbsup so offload him like Gasper, pay him out & promote a rookie at at years end its a free spot for the next younger Coughlan to be breed.
He's still on our list, is one of our best players, is in the age bracket we are sadly deficient in, is recovering from 1 injury, and has not been tested senior level yet to know if he is still up to it or not.  What part of that don't you understand?

And don't lay your experience on me, penis envy is a very shallow and futile exercise that gets trotted out when you have no basis of fact on which to argue.  You the only person in the world with 30+ years experience hey?