Cogs thread [merged]

[Smokey]

Fair call Smokey
what we aint heard from anyone yet when was Coughlans last contract was signed
maybe l just have to ask someone direct at the club next time l'm down there
but really it dont change anything thier to deep into trying to get him to recover & l think its the best choice going to Germany but l can tell you the figure will exceed 27K
one thing for sure we will know the outcome of his future

Yeah, shake hands and lets hope the outcome is the best for all concerned - whether its Cogs getting better and back to his best or realising its all over and moving on for a fair settlement at the earliest possible opportunity.   

[one-eyed]

Tiger's Munich mission
Sam Edmund | May 21, 2008 12:00am

MARK Coughlan has started treatment on his chronic hamstring problem in a mission to Germany to save his career.

The Richmond midfielder was introduced to soft-tissue specialist Dr Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfarth in Munich on Sunday.

The 26-year-old had a full consultation on Monday and will spend the next week in the hands of Dr Muller-Wohlfarth before returning to Melbourne.

Coughlan, with the help of his father, researched and pursued the trip to Germany himself.

Richmond is expected to fork out more than $20,000 on the trip.

Many of Dr Muller-Wohlfarth's treatments are unconventional, such as injecting animal fluids into patients to help repair muscles.

He has treated a long list of international sporting greats, including soccer superstars Ronaldo and Michael Owen.

He also helped Geelong's Max Rooke overcome repeated hamstring woes, enabling the rugged utility to play in last year's Grand Final.

Coughlan, who flew to Germany last Friday with Richmond rehabilitation and conditioning co-ordinator Warren Kofoed, has suffered repeated hamstring strains after coming back from a second knee reconstruction.

He has not played a senior game since Round 12, 2006.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23732948-19742,00.html

[one-eyed]

Coughlan coming home
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
 3:58 PM Wed 28 May, 2008

INJURY-PLAGUED Richmond midfielder Mark Coughlan has almost finished his radical course of treatment in Germany and is about to return home to continue his rehabilitation.

After two knee reconstructions, the gun midfielder is struggling with hamstring issues, and is in Germany being treated by the doctor who cured Geelong premiership player Max Rooke's troublesome hamstring.

Dr Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wolfhart has a long string of success on the sporting field after injecting players with extract of rooster crest and honey or calves' blood.

Coach Terry Wallace told richmondfc.com.au he was delighted to have Coughlan about to return to Punt Rd.

"He'll come back after the weekend, so early next week he'll be back in town," he said. "He's just about finished the course over there. He's got about three or four days more training to do over there, and then he'll be back home.

"Then he'll just work himself back up to try to get back to full fitness."

While the 26-year-old is out for the season.... 

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsid=60403

[Francois Jackson]

forget it waste of time. end of season now according to TW. his gone!

we should hire him as a assistant coach immediately and put him out of his misery.

i can see it now, another draga coming. yes he has won our b&f but how much currency does that buy you before the club says sorry pal it aint gonna work.

[tigersalive]

Fair call Smokey
what we aint heard from anyone yet when was Coughlans last contract was signed
maybe l just have to ask someone direct at the club next time l'm down there
but really it dont change anything thier to deep into trying to get him to recover & l think its the best choice going to Germany but l can tell you the figure will exceed 27K
one thing for sure we will know the outcome of his future

He signed it in late 2007 from memory, expires in 2009.

[bushranger]

I think we are flogging a dead horse here. I would love to be wrong and let him go but we have to have players h\that can get out on the park to play. Not always be on the injured list as it seems with him. Don't get me wrong I think he's a great player when playing but with missing so many games just how good will he be when he comes back. I think we have had the best from him and it is all over red rover.
We have to cut our loses here I think. And let him go.

[Sauce]

I would like to think Cogs' class and desire will see him back in the team come 2009, lets hope this treatment is the magic cure. Cogs was a huge loss for us when he went down, some have short memories.

[Tigermonk]

Fair call Smokey
what we aint heard from anyone yet when was Coughlans last contract was signed
maybe l just have to ask someone direct at the club next time l'm down there
but really it dont change anything thier to deep into trying to get him to recover & l think its the best choice going to Germany but l can tell you the figure will exceed 27K
one thing for sure we will know the outcome of his future

He signed it in late 2007 from memory, expires in 2009.

just what l thought it was late 2007 after he did his knee the second time
So Smokey that answered the question we waitied so long for thanks Tigersalive 
a decision l think is bad judgement by the club so they better prey this germany treatment works & he plays some good football on return, otherwise thier going to be some very angry supporters & it will show nothing has changed down at Tigerland

but in saying that l sitback and wait the outcome of his treatment

[Stripes]

Sad fact is if he does return next year he will be into the later stage of his career and need at least a full year of games to try and capture some form (like Browny & Newman did). This would mean he would be around 28 when he starts to play good football for us and this is without any further injury mishaps.

At best would get 2 - 4 years out of him with no assurity that he will regain the form that will gain him a spot in the team. When he is ready we will have a midfield core of players who are around 23 years of age and around 7 years ahead of them.

The figures and facts aren't stacking up well for Cogs sadly  

Stripes

[Smokey]

He signed it in late 2007 from memory, expires in 2009.

just what l thought it was late 2007 after he did his knee the second time
So Smokey that answered the question we waitied so long for thanks Tigersalive 
a decision l think is bad judgement by the club so they better prey this germany treatment works & he plays some good football on return, otherwise thier going to be some very angry supporters & it will show nothing has changed down at Tigerland

but in saying that l sitback and wait the outcome of his treatment

Yep, no problem here TM.  I agree that making a decision to re-sign after the 2nd reco (and for 2 years) is not a very clever move, and I'm not saying that with the benefit of hindsight - it would apply to any player in those circumstances, Richo and Foley included.  As I have posted previously, the risk v return on someone in those circumstances is much higher than I would consider acceptable (unless the unthinkable that he was re-signed on a minimum but I know that wouldn't have happened).  The club have not shown the best judgement in this case but now they have no alternative than to see the treatment/rehab out until the years end and then collectively (with Coughlan) make a call on his future.

[mightytiges]

Was it ever mentioned before Cogs was out for the season?  ??? 

[Judge Roughneck]

He signed it in late 2007 from memory, expires in 2009.

just what l thought it was late 2007 after he did his knee the second time
So Smokey that answered the question we waitied so long for thanks Tigersalive 
a decision l think is bad judgement by the club so they better prey this germany treatment works & he plays some good football on return, otherwise thier going to be some very angry supporters & it will show nothing has changed down at Tigerland

but in saying that l sitback and wait the outcome of his treatment

Yep, no problem here TM.  I agree that making a decision to re-sign after the 2nd reco (and for 2 years) is not a very clever move, and I'm not saying that with the benefit of hindsight - it would apply to any player in those circumstances, Richo and Foley included.  As I have posted previously, the risk v return on someone in those circumstances is much higher than I would consider acceptable (unless the unthinkable that he was re-signed on a minimum but I know that wouldn't have happened).  The club have not shown the best judgement in this case but now they have no alternative than to see the treatment/rehab out until the years end and then collectively (with Coughlan) make a call on his future.

Meh, very depression.

You can carry one injury-fared player on the list IMO.

Cogs has enough runs in the back to give him one more chance.

[Smokey]

He signed it in late 2007 from memory, expires in 2009.

just what l thought it was late 2007 after he did his knee the second time
So Smokey that answered the question we waitied so long for thanks Tigersalive 
a decision l think is bad judgement by the club so they better prey this germany treatment works & he plays some good football on return, otherwise thier going to be some very angry supporters & it will show nothing has changed down at Tigerland

but in saying that l sitback and wait the outcome of his treatment

Yep, no problem here TM.  I agree that making a decision to re-sign after the 2nd reco (and for 2 years) is not a very clever move, and I'm not saying that with the benefit of hindsight - it would apply to any player in those circumstances, Richo and Foley included.  As I have posted previously, the risk v return on someone in those circumstances is much higher than I would consider acceptable (unless the unthinkable that he was re-signed on a minimum but I know that wouldn't have happened).  The club have not shown the best judgement in this case but now they have no alternative than to see the treatment/rehab out until the years end and then collectively (with Coughlan) make a call on his future.

Meh, very depression.

You can carry one injury-fared player on the list IMO.

Cogs has enough runs in the back to give him one more chance.

Yeah, that's what I would class this year as.  I've stuck up for the club in the way they have handled his rehab and been prepared to give him as much time as possible but in spite of that, knowing now that they re-signed him after doing his knee for the 2nd time I don't think it was a smart decision (basing this on an assumption that he was re-signed for a reasonable amount of $$'s and doesn't have any special injury clauses).  Too much risk for the potential return when dealing with a 2nd time, back to back knee reco.  The club have improved out of sight in their decision making and general administration/management of most matters since the dark, dark Casey days but I just think they got this decision wrong, regardless of whether Cogs plays again or not.  He might comeback and win a Brownlow but it won't change my opinion about the decision.  Just like backing a 100-1 winner v an odds on favourite - the longshot might get up one day but you will spend a lot of money, a lot of tears and a long time chasing it.  The favourite will give you a much smaller return with much more likelihood of a positive outcome.  And Richmond need to be backing favourites.

[Tigermonk]

Meh, very depression.

You can carry one injury-fared player on the list IMO.

Cogs has enough runs in the back to give him one more chance.

this coming from a person who said Cogs was superfit
your a very deluded supporter
how do you know his got enough run left,  he cant run properly now
he cant even make it through training let alone get picked for a VFL game this year
AFL football is a long shot for Cogs from this point in his career reminds me of Dragacevic all over again
what you going to come out with next, your tool of the week 

 

[Francois Jackson]

Meh, very depression.

You can carry one injury-fared player on the list IMO.

Cogs has enough runs in the back to give him one more chance.

this coming from a person who said Cogs was supfit
your a very deluded supporter
how do you know his got enough run left,  he cant run properly now
he cant even make it through training let alone get picked for a VFL game this year
AFL football is a long shot for Cogs from this point in his career reminds me of Dragacevic all over again
what you going to come out with next, your tool of the week 

 

id say tool of the month more like it..