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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2004, 10:14:30 AM »
But the question is: Will he win if he forces an EGM?

Surely he can’t Rodgerramjet.  I hope members and supporters can see that he and his group would just be taking us backwards.  Let’s be democratic and have an election, but why go backwards with these people who have been there before?  It just doesn’t make sense.

We might as well concede that our Club would be well and truly stuffed if he gets in.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

As I’ve stated before, the fact that this group elected Schwab as their front man ::) says it all.  And points to how light weight, short-sighted and backwards they really are.

They are a never will be, never was, bunch of time wasting, self-interested non event, never gonna happens.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2004, 10:41:29 AM »
He wont get in.
They will get votes from another website and thats about it.
There "ring around " to gain support has fallen short of the mark !

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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2004, 10:47:08 AM »
He wont get in.
They will get votes from another website and thats about it.
There "ring around " to gain support has fallen short of the mark !

I hope you're right Jackee - Schwab and his cronies would set us back 20 years
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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2004, 12:31:32 PM »
They will get votes from another website and thats about it.

I should do my own dirty work I guess, but on what basis would members vote for them? :-\

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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2004, 01:31:10 PM »
Thats easy, Mental health ;) :rollin

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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2004, 02:20:36 PM »
But the question is: Will he win if he forces an EGM?

I could be misunderstanding this but I thought an EGM will only put forward a no-confidence motion in the current board and a resolution to hold the election with all board positions open sooner rather than just before the agreed AGM in december. Not the actual election itself. You then have an interim board will little power between the EGM and the election.

In any case I can't see Schwab having a chance unless he can somehow remove Casey and the entire current board at an EGM or by Casey standing down himself. Either seems very unlikely. If Casey by nature of being President is Chairman of any meeting then all vacant proxies (people who don't bother to vote or don't delegate another person as a proxy) automatically support the Chairman's stance. You would need a huge voting turnout (unlike last time) and a large anti-Casey vote to unseat him. That's my understanding reading the articles. Those who only go by actual votes (more inclined to want change) and forget to include proxies will probably claim if Casey survives that it's rigged.
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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2004, 03:35:06 PM »
Surely that other site is a thorn in the clubs side.

From an RFC administrative point of view that joint would mean nothing but
misdirected megolomania and all things negative.

OER is,IMO,the Premier Richmond site as it's members are of an intellect and maturity that allows
constructive arguments as well as mindless criticism(that would be me :santa)



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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2004, 04:03:32 PM »

members are of an intellect and maturity that allows
constructive arguments as well as mindless criticism(that would be me :santa)

 :bow :bow As my Mother always says "know your place, know your purpose". Well done Oxman :thumbsup :rollin
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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2004, 04:31:19 PM »
He wont get in.
They will get votes from another website and thats about it.
There "ring around " to gain support has fallen short of the mark !

Of course that other site would support this team built of fluff, bluff and lies. It represents the same qualities.  :scream
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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2004, 05:28:45 PM »
Let's just say this other site is not adding to any credibility this other ticket may have - or may not.
I can't stand Casey but i'm almost tempted to vote for him now based on all the crap.  Making my head spin them dissecting every word someone makes and turning it into a bloody thesis.
I hope Casey keeps the books from them  :rollin
Is he obliged to anyway?


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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2004, 06:41:13 PM »
Thats an interesting point actually, after all, they are only supporters, its not if they hold any position of authority. ;)
Its amazing how many of them say the Schwab bleeds yellow and Black, well dont we all, whats gives Mickey Mouse the right to cause all this trouble when he was already on the board. He and Woosha Welsh didnt get there own way so took ""there bat and ball "" and went home. :'(
If they had the RFC at heart, they would of stayed on an had objective cristism of the issues at hand, otherwise ,why were they on the board in the first place, to big note ?

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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2004, 04:59:41 AM »
All Tiger supporters that use the net need to realise (not saying anyone here doesn't already realise this) we are a minority and a small one at that when you compare us to the total of 27,500 RFC members. It'll be the "mums and dads" members that will decide Casey's/Schwab's fates. 
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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2004, 06:27:01 AM »
a very small minority actually.when you consider how many people are on line at all the sites combined and who are actual members, you might find its less than 1% of the total members

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Re: Trouble is brewing
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2004, 12:26:56 PM »
a very small minority actually.when you consider how many people are on line at all the sites combined and who are actual members, you might find its less than 1% of the total members

Well, as part of that 1%, I won’t be voting for the alternative ticket, in any way shape or form.

To me, it’s like us de-listing Marsh, Fletcher, Houlihan and others and then giving them another contract come draft time. :banghead :banghead

That would just be stupid, wouldn’t it, and this is no different.
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Sharon Hall joins alternative ticket. Ninth and final person to follow tomorrow.
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2004, 12:51:55 AM »
Woman lawyer on Tiger ticket
By Caroline Wilson
realfooty.theage.com.au
September 7, 2004

Brendan Schwab's push to unseat Clinton Casey as president of Richmond has received a boost in the form of 31-year-old lawyer Sharon Hall, who, if successful, would become the first woman board member in the club's history.

And the Schwab challenge looks certain to further expand again by one tomorrow to give his ticket the required nine members to overthrow Casey, as the two camps head towards a bruising election battle.

Hall, who specialises in sporting, corporate and litigation law, is in partnership with Kevin Sheedy's long-time lawyer Brian Ward. Among her more celebrated cases was the Pakistan cricket inquiry into Shane Warne and Mark Waugh over the betting scandal.

A former Victorian representative softballer who was recruited to the challengers' ticket by Schwab and his alternative treasurer and liquidation expert Michael Humphris, she told The Age: "With the best will in the world, the current administration cannot say that the club is at the front of the queue.

"In my view, it's time for an amicable handing over of the baton to another group to try to achieve that. It's in the best interests of the club.

"If people find it interesting that I'm also female, then that's good. I believe I have something different to offer."

Hall is a coup for Schwab, given Casey's six-month search for a woman director. Among the high-profile Tiger supporters he has unsuccessfully approached is the club's No. 1 ticket-holder Diana Jones, wife of the Melbourne Cricket Club chairman David Jones.

The Casey board boasts eight members but would require nine to form a new board following the spill, which is still expected to take place in the second week of December, though the board believes the full election should take place at the annual meeting that month, saving the club the $60,000 it would cost for an extraordinary general meeting.

Having lost former premiership players Tony Jewell and Peter Welsh from the board at the start of the year, Richmond is the only Victorian AFL club without a former player as a director.

Director of football Greg Miller has offered to fill the breach for Casey and remains a staunch Casey supporter.

Schwab and his group has lost patience with Casey, believing the beleaguered president has failed to honour the compromise reached in order to allow the club to secure a new coach.

Not only has Casey refused to unconditionally make the Richmond books available to Humphris, he has cancelled at least two meetings with the challengers.

With the Richmond board meeting tonight for the last time before Casey heads overseas on Thursday for a month, Schwab and his ticket now regard a total spill as the inevitable conclusion to the club's political, financial and football crisis, which has led to three board members resigning this year, the sacking of CEO Ian Campbell, a projected loss of $2.4 million and a wooden spoon.

Casey is believed to have made the books available only if the challengers sign a confidentiality agreement. Schwab was still pushing for a meeting with Casey before tonight's board meeting.

Casey will also address tomorrow night's best and fairest count for the Jack Dyer Medal, to be attended by former coach Danny Frawley. Although Frawley had offered to stand aside for incoming coach Terry Wallace, Miller is believed to have insisted that Frawley attend.

A full election appears certain following the breakdown in negotiations between the opposing camps, with the only question being whether it will be held in December at the annual meeting - as agreed to during the "ceasefire" - or earlier.

The board believes Schwab's request for an "smooth transition" is actually a request for a complete surrender.

Schwab said last night that the refusal to hand over the financial information unless there was a signed confidentiality agreement was "ridiculous."

He said the financial position of the club was "the issue at the heart of any election for a new board".

But a board source last night countered that Schwab was interested in the financial details for "political reasons," while the club had been upfront in its detailing the club's financial position throughout the year.

- with Jake Niall

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/09/06/1094322716333.html
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