Mark Seaby

[WilliamPowell]

could be garbage but this was posted on BF

Radio report said this deal is about to go through and looks to be the first.

Seaby to Richmond
Polo and Cassely??? (Never heard of this guy) to West Coast

Sticking point is the draft picks

West Coast want Richmonds 2nd and will give Richmond their 3rd.

Richmond want to swap their 3rd for West Coast 4th pick

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505544

 

If this happens I know who'd be the winner in the deal and it aint us

[tigerfan1961]

could be garbage but this was posted on BF

Radio report said this deal is about to go through and looks to be the first.

Seaby to Richmond
Polo and Cassely??? (Never heard of this guy) to West Coast

Sticking point is the draft picks

West Coast want Richmonds 2nd and will give Richmond their 3rd.

Richmond want to swap their 3rd for West Coast 4th pick

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505544

 

If this happens I know who'd be the winner in the deal and it aint us

Exactly, unlike quite a few others it seems, I actually rate Polo and I cannot understand why so many supporters are keen to offload him. No way I would do that deal. Just draft rucks later if need be, but draft youngsters all the way. Quick fixes have been of no help to us in the past 5 years, let alone 25, the only way is to keep getting youngsters until we get it right.

IF we have to get Seaby, we cannot give away any of our first two picks or Dean Polo.

[blaisee]

could be garbage but this was posted on BF

Radio report said this deal is about to go through and looks to be the first.

Seaby to Richmond
Polo and Cassely??? (Never heard of this guy) to West Coast

Sticking point is the draft picks

West Coast want Richmonds 2nd and will give Richmond their 3rd.

Richmond want to swap their 3rd for West Coast 4th pick

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505544

 

If this happens I know who'd be the winner in the deal and it aint us

Exactly, unlike quite a few others it seems, I actually rate Polo and I cannot understand why so many supporters are keen to offload him. No way I would do that deal. Just draft rucks later if need be, but draft youngsters all the way. Quick fixes have been of no help to us in the past 5 years, let alone 25, the only way is to keep getting youngsters until we get it right.

IF we have to get Seaby, we cannot give away any of our first two picks or Dean Polo.

Geez some of you guys are hard to please

getting a ruckman measn simmo can play forward, it means patto can be punted, it means putt can focus on what he was drafted to do, be  a power forward.

Dean Polo is a servicable footballer who is expendable, Jacko and  to a lesser degree Jake King have made sure of that

we will be EXTREMELY lucky if dean polo can help us fix in one foul swoop the biggest deficiency we have on our list,
yet some only wanna do it by trading delistable players.

Its ridiculous.

[Francois Jackson]

polo if given game time is more than capable of making the grade. he aint no JON or Meyer thats for sure.

any trade involving Seaby to Richmond will NOT benefit our club.

[mightytiges]

could be garbage but this was posted on BF

Radio report said this deal is about to go through and looks to be the first.

Seaby to Richmond
Polo and Cassely??? (Never heard of this guy) to West Coast

Sticking point is the draft picks

West Coast want Richmonds 2nd and will give Richmond their 3rd.

Richmond want to swap their 3rd for West Coast 4th pick

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=505544

The Eagles 3rd pick is pick 20 so I'll swap picks with our pick 26  . 

Seriously, now that a ready-made genuine 1st ruckman in McIntosh is on the market then Seaby's trade value (and Warnock's for that matter) surely have dropped. The Eagles are trying to rip us off so the 4 picks they will use are inside the top 26 (2, 18, 20, 26) plus Polo while we are left with picks 8, 36, 42, 58 plus Seaby. They don't want to accept that 3rd/4th round pick swap because they won't be using that pick anyway. Well then forget the pick swaps and tell them like it or leave it.

Forgetting about Seaby for a moment, I like Polo too but if he needs to be sacrificed then I am open to the idea. As an average small he is a type of player that is fairly easily replaceable in the draft and we preserve our early picks. Sure we could be letting someone go who may end up playing some decent/good footy for another side like a Torney but he's no A-grader.

[one-eyed]

Mark Fine on SEN was summarising day one of trade week just now and said there's been no interest in Seaby surprisingly.

[one-eyed]

Popped over to the Eagles forum to see what they were saying about Seaby:

Seaby had a promising pre-season this year and looked more agile, but the fundamental issue of Cox being such a dominant player with a big engine constrains him to limited ruck time. His development has really stalled in the last 2 years

As for trades:

Richmond Scenario 1 - Pick 26 is not good enough and we can do better
Richmond Scenario 2 - Pick 18 + Seaby for Pick 8 and Pick 26
Pick 17 from Dees who expressed interested in today's Herald Sun is about right market value and I think they will offer this (or pick 19)
Pick 13 from Sydney is on the borderline of over the odds - maybe if we added pick 36 that would be a reasonable as well.

Thoughts?
As for Carltank - get stuffed

I dont think we are going to get much for seaby ..... clubs really don't rate him that much

I don't see his value any higher than 26 from Richmond

I would do 34 + Seaby for 17/19 though

Would we be interested in Richmond giving us pick 26 along with Kayne Pettifer or Dean Polo?

I still think Melbourne's pick 17 is looking good.

Melbourne pick 17/19 seems feasible. Melbourne need a ruckman moreso than Richmond, although Richmond will be up & firing in 2 years time and Simmonds could be retired by then.

As for Seaby's value. Nisbett should be happy with pick 26 (Richmonds). The draft is strong this year, and picks have higher value.

Hamish Mcintosh & Robbie Warnock on the trade table does not improve Seaby's value either.

If Richmond really are sniffing around, I'd certainly want to talk to them. I'd suggest Seaby + 20 for pick 8 (and go with Seaby + 18 if Richmond hold out). Perhaps even Seaby + 18 + 20 for 8 + 26. If they went that last option though, and we end up having to take a player beyond our pick 36 as a consequence, I'd ask them to upgrade our pick 52 to 42 as well.

McIntosh coming into the equation though is a bugger - clubs will go that way first.

http://www.eaglesflyinghigh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12849&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=90

[one-eyed]

The Age says Richmond and Melbourne yesterday expressed interest in West Coast's Mark Seaby, who has said he wants to leave.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/roos-offer-up-mcintosh/2008/10/06/1223145262700.html

With Fremantle's Robert Warnock heading for Carlton, Richmond leads the pack of clubs keen for a ruckman.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24457822-19742,00.html

the price West Coast put on Seaby's head is a late first-round or early second-round selection which has cooled the interest of potential suitors such as St Kilda.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24456872-5012432,00.html

[WilliamPowell]

Geez some of you guys are hard to please

getting a ruckman measn simmo can play forward, it means patto can be punted, it means putt can focus on what he was drafted to do, be  a power forward.

Dean Polo is a servicable footballer who is expendable, Jacko and  to a lesser degree Jake King have made sure of that

we will be EXTREMELY lucky if dean polo can help us fix in one foul swoop the biggest deficiency we have on our list,
yet some only wanna do it by trading delistable players.

Its ridiculous.

Not a case of being hard to please, but wanting the best deal for the Club

Do we need a ruckman.... YEAH but is Seaby the best available NO.

Would Seaby be of more value to the RFC than Polo... VERY MUCH DOUBT IT at the moment

My problem with them putting up Polo is the fact that there a couple of other players on the list that would have just as much, if not more trade value to OTHER clubs and they dont appear to be on the table.... why?

[wayne]

Popped over to the Eagles forum to see what they were saying about Seaby:

Pick 8?? 

[one-eyed]

Tigers want Seaby
Herald-Sun | October 7, 2008

RICHMOND will speak to West Coast over the coming days to try to hammer out a deal for premiership ruckman Mark Seaby.

While the Tigers were as stunned as everyone yesterday when North Melbourne put young ruckman Hamish McIntosh on the trade table, they remain keen on Seaby.

The Tigers' second round draft pick, No. 26, will be the key to any deal, although the Eagles may seek more for the 24-year-old, who has played 97 games.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24458158-19742,00.html

[one-eyed]

Channel 10 news suggested West Coast want Richmond's first round pick, whereas Richmond are not even willing to give their second pick.

[tigerfan1961]

Channel 10 news suggested West Coast want Richmond's first round pick, whereas Richmond are not even willing to give their second pick.

I hope that report is accurate

[mightytiges]

Channel 10 news suggested West Coast want Richmond's first round pick, whereas Richmond are not even willing to give their second pick.

I hope that report is accurate

Ditto.

I hope we tell the Eagles to go forth and multiply. Picks are worth far more this year so rightly 8 and 26 at the very least should be off the table.

[WilliamPowell]

I hope we tell the Eagles to go forth and multiply. Picks are worth far more this year so rightly 8 and 26 at the very least should be off the table.

Disagree about pick 26.

I'd use that for Hamish McIntosh....

26 + a player say Meyer or even Polo (although I am dead against trading Polo if no-one is aware).

Actually for Hamish I'd offer Pick 26, Raines (one I'd look at trading but doesn't appear to be on the table) and Meyer. I'd try and get North's 3rd round pick too