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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2008, 11:49:42 PM »
Richmond select Jack Ziebell.

Very very tough choice.

Trengove did not come in to the equation.

It was always Ziebell or McKernan for the Tigers.

Ziebell wins on the basis of best available.

Ziebell is slow and McKernan has serious question marks with his kicking.
Ziebell isn't the quickest going around yes. But to say he's slow is not true. Elite kicking skills with hardness, good size and mongrel, I'd like to think I have made the right choice.

Who would you have selected?
Actually he IS slow

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2008, 11:57:56 PM »
Richmond select Jack Ziebell.

Very very tough choice.

Trengove did not come in to the equation.

It was always Ziebell or McKernan for the Tigers.

Ziebell wins on the basis of best available.

Ziebell is slow and McKernan has serious question marks with his kicking.
Ziebell isn't the quickest going around yes. But to say he's slow is not true. Elite kicking skills with hardness, good size and mongrel, I'd like to think I have made the right choice.

Who would you have selected?
Actually he IS slow
WHich is why we also should not be considering Sidebottom.

McKernan has promise and Trengove has severe injuries in his past but is the superior player out of the 4 imo.

It's going to be a very tough call.
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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2008, 09:45:59 AM »
Adelaide select Shaun McKernan.

Infamy, who would you want playing off half back for the next 10 years?

JON who is fast but highly unskilled or Ziebell who is slow as you say but highly skilled and a typical hard nut?

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2008, 12:48:00 PM »
I think that's an irrelevant question as there's no way I'd want to be picking a HBF with Pick 8
We need a kpp or midfielder with that selection

The only HBFs in our side should be gun junior mids who get pushed out of the midfield by even better players.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2008, 02:23:58 PM »
I think that's an irrelevant question as there's no way I'd want to be picking a HBF with Pick 8
We need a kpp or midfielder with that selection

The only HBFs in our side should be gun junior mids who get pushed out of the midfield by even better players.

Infamy didnt you say best available before or did you mean best available but mid or KPP only

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2008, 03:08:42 PM »
I'm glad I wasn't picking for Richmond.  ;D

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2008, 03:11:12 PM »
I'm glad I wasn't picking for Richmond.  ;D

LOL It was always going to be topical

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2008, 07:18:00 PM »
I think that's an irrelevant question as there's no way I'd want to be picking a HBF with Pick 8
We need a kpp or midfielder with that selection

The only HBFs in our side should be gun junior mids who get pushed out of the midfield by even better players.

Infamy didnt you say best available before or did you mean best available but mid or KPP only
There is no way a kid who will at best be a HBF at AFL level should be considered "best available" at Pick 8 so I consider the point irrelevant

There's also no way a junior midfielder who has crap accelleration, and crap stamina would be considered "best available" at pick 8 either. Think of it this way, Dean Polo had around a 3 sec even 20m sprint time, but an elite 3km time trial and he's pretty average when it comes to his athletisism. Ziebell is not only fairly significantly slower in the sprint, but not even in the same league when it comes to stamina, so where does that leave him?
I have no problem with basing our picks on football ability over athletic testing, but when the kid is deficient in so many areas, we can't afford to use such a crucial pick on him.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2008, 07:54:59 PM »
Ok I think I have this right now, it is best available unless they are a hbf, bp, fp or hff or unless they are crap.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2008, 08:44:21 PM »
#11 Collingwood - Tom Swift (190cm 84kg)

The Pies need some midfielders and although Swift was injured last season, he is the best available.
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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2008, 08:59:00 PM »
#11 Collingwood - Tom Swift (190kg 84cm)


He sure weighs a lot for a short-a**e!

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2008, 02:48:42 AM »
With pick #12 Sydney Swans pick Sam Blease Eastern Rangers

Will add more speed to the Sydney midfield and may also be used later as a utility or small leading forward in the absence of Ryan O'keefe.

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2008, 04:26:34 AM »
Just a summary of where we are at so far ...

1. Melbourne - Jack Watts
2. West Coast - Nick Naitanui
3. Fremantle - Daniel Rich
4. Port Adelaide - Tyrone Vickery
5. Essendon - Chris Yarran
6. Carlton - Michael Hurley
7. Brisbane - Hamish Hartlett
8. Richmond - Jack Ziebell
9. North Melb - Steele Sidebottom
10. Adelaide - Shaun McKernan
11. Collingwood - Tom Swift
12. Sydney - Sam Blease

Next up....
13. St Kilda

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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2008, 08:05:13 AM »
St Kilda - Pick #13 - Jackson Trengove - 196cm, 81kgs

Coming into the draft we were always going to be looking at possible defenders with Maxy Hudghton not having long left and not a clear replacement coming through.  It seems we have picked the best available and a future key defender.  Is tall, athletic and has a great work ethic.  Despite an injury this year to his hamstring, his form last year was magnificent dusting up previous top 10s Kruezer and McEvoy.  At 196cm and only 81kgs he will probably struggle to keep up the ruck role he did so well last year so this is purely a draft for him to become a key defender where he has already shown promise.  Can see him being able to play anywhere though personally.  The Saints welcome Jackson Trengove to the ranks.
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Re: OER PHANTOM DRAFT
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2008, 08:08:27 AM »
WP already has his done with a father-son pick  . . . .
# 14 Western Bulldogs – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons / 202 / 78).

Tall and Athletic but really needs to build a frame.


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