Tyrone Vickery [merged]

[Spagman]

lets face it, a pick of any sort is a bonus for this clown

I'd settle for some new gym equipment and a box of bananas. Even that would be of some use to the club.

[Francois Jackson]

pick 37!! the sweet spot for our man Francois Hackson.

if we are truly serious we would get rid of Griffiths too. That bloke IMO is even worse than Vickery.

Griff better than Ty IMO

each to their own. They are both bad.

It just highlights how pathetic this club is when we are debating which first round pick is worse under the careful eye of the great francois hackson.

[MintOnLamb]

So Hawthorn have no idea what they are doing and draft Vickery.
What is wrong with this picture?

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I hate to admit this but Vickery will be better at any other club.

[MintOnLamb]

I hate to admit this but Vickery will be better at any other club.

Sadly true, it is an indictment on our list management, development, conditioning and coaching, game plan and player management.
Apart from all that we are fine

[one-eyed]

Mark Stevens tonight saying Richmond's Mad Monday was farewell drinks for Vickery. Likely off to Hawthorn but as a free agent his options are open.

[Tigeritis™©®]

So Hawthorn have no idea what they are doing and draft Vickery.
What is wrong with this picture?

Will Cost them nothing whilst we used 8th pick. 

Also Clarkson & the leaders at Whorethorn won't accept his Sideshow Bob cameos. A smart club will get him fitter so as to be able to spend more time in the ruck whilst resting forward using him as a fill in for the injured Ceglar.
If he doesn't pull his finger out of his arse he will find himself a Box Hill regular.

[Yeahright]

Doesn't matter how poorly this bloke plays for another team, I'm sure we'll hear about how much better he is now from the very same people keen to see him go. It's the Richmond supporter way

[Diocletian]

To be fair, if he plays more on ball he probably would be better and if he starts tackling, chasing, crashing packs, bringing the ball to ground or even just becomes half-serviceable in the ruck, those people would have point....

[Francois Jackson]

Doesn't matter how poorly this bloke plays for another team, I'm sure we'll hear about how much better he is now from the very same people keen to see him go. It's the Richmond supporter way

Not from me. His demise is the fault of the club. The way the club has gifted these players games in past years has resulted in this. Same goes with the Edwards and bellis types

IMO you don't give up a goal kicking ruck leaving a broken griffiths and that spud Hampson  up forward to go it alone.

A new coach would not be getting rid of him. He still did kick 26 this year.

Unfortunately dimwit is still coach and that means vickery is gone and bellis will probably join the other duds in grigg and co with contract extensions

[tony_montana]

If Ty does go on to become a better player it will be bc the new club will demand him to work harder and wont tolerate the 'cruise' mode he's been in since he arrived at the club. Good luck to him and his new club if they are able to do this, fact is at richmond he was wallowing in mediocrity bc quite simply it was allowed.

Personally I dont think he will legitimately improve but wont bitch and moan if he does. We need to move on, hopefully Griff follows him out the door - we need to reload our tall fwd options

[Willy]

If Ty does go on to become a better player it will be bc the new club will demand him to work harder and wont tolerate the 'cruise' mode he's been in since he arrived at the club. Good luck to him and his new club if they are able to do this, fact is at richmond he was wallowing in mediocrity bc quite simply it was allowed.

Personally I dont think he will legitimately improve but wont bitch and moan if he does. We need to move on, hopefully Griff follows him out the door - we need to reload our tall fwd options

Yep. My thoughts exactly.

[the claw]

Could not give a stuff if he goes on to win a brownlow. Simple fact is we have had 8 years of mediocrity and it does not look like getting any better while he is with us.

Imo wont get much better too big of a pea heart he always has been.

[MintOnLamb]

If Ty does go on to become a better player it will be bc the new club will demand him to work harder and wont tolerate the 'cruise' mode he's been in since he arrived at the club. Good luck to him and his new club if they are able to do this, fact is at richmond he was wallowing in mediocrity bc quite simply it was allowed.

Personally I dont think he will legitimately improve but wont bitch and moan if he does. We need to move on, hopefully Griff follows him out the door - we need to reload our tall fwd options

Good point, but the question is, why does our coach accept this mediocrity?

[Chuck17]

Could not give a stuff if he goes on to win a brownlow. Simple fact is we have had 8 years of mediocrity and it does not look like getting any better while he is with us.

Imo wont get much better too big of a pea heart he always has been.

Cant wait until he goes to hawthorn plays in a grand final does a cameo with a couple of goals due to the har dwork of those up the ground and then we have it thrown in our faces what a star he has been at his new club ala Mitch Morton