Who is best placed to survive the Gold Coast years?

[one-eyed]

Emma Quayle didn't mention us ???

Who is best placed to survive the Gold Coast years?

HAWTHORN, obviously, given its young core of talent. Geelong will be fine, the Bulldogs too. Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton and Adelaide should be up the top three or four years from now, provided they develop their players properly. All four have lists high on talent.

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[Ramps]

WCE have had two super drafts in a row, they will be up there as well. To be honest I dont think we cut enough. I still query why Pettifer and King are still on the list, if they had gone, then we could have topped up on more young players and a couple of bottom agers like Luke Thompson. Hopefully we find some good kids in the rookie draft.

[Chuck17]

It depends on how long the Gold Coast years are defined, just the couple of years the draft is compromised or those plus a few more while the stocks of quality youngsters are replenished.

Geelong have a core that from memory is about 24-25 years old, while they will be right in the next 2-3 years I would have doubts about their competitiveness in 5 years time.

Essendon have stocked up on youngsters and in that regard are fine but I dont know if they have replacements at the same quality of Lloyd and Lucas.  The same might be said for Brisbane with Brown and Bradshaw.

Collingwood have not bottomed out recently and have not had the influx of quality kids that teams like Carlton and us have had. On the other hand from what I have gathered while they have not had top draft picks the picks they have had have turned out fairly well.  Still I am not too sure how well placed they will be to handle the "gold coast years".

If Melbourne bottom out again this year and obtain priority picks in the partially compromised 2009 draft then I would assume that their youth policy would start to pay dividends in 4-5 years time.

Swans and Saints hopefully will be on a downhill slide to a place where I will really enjoy seeing them.

[Stripes]

I think I am starting to confues myself with dates, events etc. I thought next year(2009 Draft) the GC team will get their first installment of superpicks, with Western Sydney beginning their tirade in 2010. Am I early by one year? Is next year an uncompromised draft as well?

GC is in the TAC Cup in 2009, VFL in 2010 and AFL in 2011. I was under the assumption that their new draftees would have a year playing together in the VFL before moving up to the AFL.

Have I got this all wrong?


Stripes

[Infamy]

Pretty sure next year the GC team only get early access to bottom aged juniors which will reduce the talent pool. The draft age has been increased again too so will only be 8 months worth of players in the draft. The GC's picks in the draft aren't until 2010 I believe.

[Stripes]

Pretty sure next year the GC team only get early access to bottom aged juniors which will reduce the talent pool. The draft age has been increased again too so will only be 8 months worth of players in the draft. The GC's picks in the draft aren't until 2010 I believe.

Thanks Infamy! So how does the drafting the bottom aged juniors work? So 2008 was, in reality, the last untampered with draft then afterall.

Stripes

[Chuck17]

Thanks Infamy! So how does the drafting the bottom aged juniors work? So 2008 was, in reality, the last untampered with draft then afterall.

Stripes

Yep I am pretty sure 2008 is the last fully uncompromised draft for a while, then in the 2009 draft the GC side have access to the bottom age players and hence the draft is partially compromised and then in the 2010 draft they get all their picks eg 1,2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15

[Hes My Hero]

Pretty sure next year the GC team only get early access to bottom aged juniors which will reduce the talent pool. The draft age has been increased again too so will only be 8 months worth of players in the draft. The GC's picks in the draft aren't until 2010 I believe.

Just wondering, if Josh Free is a worthy Father Son pick next year, isn't he bottom aged ?
Would we have access ?

How would the whole Father Son picks work in general, if the kid is considered to be bottom aged ?

[Infamy]

He'd want to get a little taller before he's considered anything but a rookie option
I kinda hope we take him as it will be a good reason for Tony Free to step down off the board

[mightytiges]

Who does best will also depend on who can con some of those top 10 picks out off the Gold Coast team in exchange for experienced players. For those clubs they won't notice much difference from now at the draft table as the pick gained from the trade becomes their first pick inside the top 10 and their original first pick in the 20s say then becomes their second pick and so forth.

Say we finish 5th in 2010 and trade for GC's 5th pick (#7) then we'll still have decent picks - 7, 21, 37, 53. In fact for a club that finishes 5th it's better than now. Clubs that have surpluses that are highly rated and considered by outsiders as missing out due to lack of opportunity should do well at the draft table out of the Gold Coast situation. The GC club can't go into their first year with their oldest players only 20 years old.

1. GC
2. GC
3. GC
4. 16th
5. GC
6. 15th
7. Richmond
8. 14th
9. GC
10. 13th
11. GC
12. 12th
13. GC
14. 11th
15. GC
16. 10th
17. 9th
18. 8th
19. 7th
20. 6th
21. Richmond
22. 4th
23. 3rd
24. 2nd
25. 1st

[Chuck17]

Now that you put it like that MT a lot rests in the hand of the GC hierachy and the approach they take to trading players for picks, the age bracket they go for the type of players they target etc.

[mightytiges]

If you were GC:
* Target ex-Queenslanders
* Target at least one high profile player to attract interest and build the club around.
* Target every out of contract player who is in the 22 of their side or in their early 20s and just on the cusp of the top sides.
* Target KPPs and rucks. Talls take longer to develop so they'll need to import/trade for them initially while their young KPPs picked up in the draft and via other concessions develop at a lower level.
* Raid the best of the stronger state comps - SANFL, VFL and WAFL.

Hopefully Richmond is wise and clever enough to have all our best and better players safely under contract by 2010 so they just can't walk out. It looks like every club will eventually have to give up at least one player to GC so hopefully we are smart enough to offload someone we don't see part of our future anyway. That's what happened when the Bears formed. They mostly got every other club's discards. I can't remember for sure but I think the Bears got Phillip Walsh from us.

[bojangles17]

Emma Quayle didn't mention us ???

Who is best placed to survive the Gold Coast years?

HAWTHORN, obviously, given its young core of talent. Geelong will be fine, the Bulldogs too. Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton and Adelaide should be up the top three or four years from now, provided they develop their players properly. All four have lists high on talent.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/watts-the-future-for-demons/2008/11/30/1227979844733.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

im staggered that ESS, crows and Pies prospects could be listed as superior to ours...ESS for gods sake...Great work emma

[Smokey]

im staggered that ESS, crows and Pies prospects could be listed as superior to ours...ESS for gods sake...Great work emma

Maybe Rohan has been whispering sweet nothings in her ear.

[bushranger]

If you were GC:
* Target ex-Queenslanders
* Target at least one high profile player to attract interest and build the club around.
* Target every out of contract player who is in the 22 of their side or in their early 20s and just on the cusp of the top sides.
* Target KPPs and rucks. Talls take longer to develop so they'll need to import/trade for them initially while their young KPPs picked up in the draft and via other concessions develop at a lower level.
* Raid the best of the stronger state comps - SANFL, VFL and WAFL.

Hopefully Richmond is wise and clever enough to have all our best and better players safely under contract by 2010 so they just can't walk out. It looks like every club will eventually have to give up at least one player to GC so hopefully we are smart enough to offload someone we don't see part of our future anyway. That's what happened when the Bears formed. They mostly got every other club's discards. I can't remember for sure but I think the Bears got Phillip Walsh from us.

If I could have said something this is what it would have been, read above.