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Re: 9/11
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2016, 12:44:24 PM »
The Crime of The Century = bankers buying off the fed reserve in 1913

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2016, 01:36:48 PM »
War never has an exit strategy. They usually just wing it based on the state of play at the point where they lose interest.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/05/22/saudi-press-u-s-blew-up-world-trade-center-to-create-war-on-terror/
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2016, 04:05:19 PM »
Seen the viral video yet tin man?

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2016, 04:15:13 PM »
Watching the American remembrance ceremonies and all they're talking about is money, capitalism, markets etc.
They can't even remember such an outrageous event without talking about bloody money   ::)

In the immediate aftermath of the event, George Bush's directive to his country was to implore his citizens too....

Keep consuming. Yep, that was the MOST important thing for Americans to do.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 04:17:37 PM »
 
Seen the viral video yet tin man?

Na comrade
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2016, 12:22:34 PM »
http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

So it was the Saudis.... But there's some good reality TV tonight
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2016, 11:54:32 AM »
However, Russian political website Pravda reported Putin is on the verge of releasing “authoritative evidence” which proves “beyond any doubt” that the White House was directly involved.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2016, 08:44:51 AM »
Where are the tin foil hat comments? 

Does anyone have half an idea on anything?

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2016, 11:21:01 AM »
Where are the tin foil hat comments?


http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016-47-4.pdf

the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.”

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2016, 01:42:07 PM »
Where are the tin foil hat comments?


http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016-47-4.pdf

the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.”

 :shh

Before the article even starts, they had to put a note from the editors
"This feature is somewhat different from our usual purely scientific articles, in that it contains some speculation. "


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Re: 9/11
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2016, 02:06:17 PM »
Coincidence theory.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2016, 08:12:07 PM »

Two peer reviewed papers published in the Challenge Journal of Structural Mechanics - Canadian Civil Engineering Researchers Disprove Official Explanation of WTC 7’s Destruction


Two peer reviewed published papers, published in the Challenge Journal of Structural Mechanics the first one in July 2015, the second in February 2016.

Paper one Performance-based fire protection of office buildings: A case study based on the collapse of WTC 7

http://www.challengejournal.com/index.php/cjsmec/article/view/36/19

Paper Two The collapse of WTC 7: A re-examination of the “simple analysis” approach

http://www.challengejournal.com/index.php/cjsmec/article/view/50/41

Canadian Civil Engineering Researchers Disprove Official Explanation of WTC 7’s Destruction

Noting the many shortcomings in Bažant's analysis, which have been studied and criticized extensively since 2001, Korol and his colleagues set out to apply a much more rigorous methodology for analyzing WTC 7, which, according to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), collapsed from normal office fires.

Korol and his colleagues set out to apply a much more rigorous methodology for analyzing WTC 7.

Dr. Robert Korol, professor emeritus of civil engineering at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, and a fellow of the Canadian Society for Civil Engineering, has led a team of academic researchers in preparing two peer-reviewed scientific papers on the destruction of World Trade Center Building 7. Both papers were published in the Challenge Journal of Structural Mechanics — the first one in July 2015, the second in February 2016.

Prior to publishing these papers, the team of researchers carefully reviewed the work of Zdeněk Bažant, a professor of Civil Engineering and Materials Science at Northwestern University, who had published a paper shortly after 9/11 focusing on the collapses of WTC 1 and 2. Entitled “Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse?—Simple Analysis,” Bažant’s paper presented “a simplified approximate analysis of the overall collapse of the towers of World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001.”

Noting the many shortcomings in Bažant's analysis, which have been studied and criticized extensively since 2001, Korol and his colleagues set out to apply a much more rigorous methodology for analyzing WTC 7, which, according to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), collapsed from normal office fires. As Korol explains, “WTC 7 is a particularly useful example, because there isn't the concern about trying to predict the amount of heat generated by spewing jet fuel and having it ignited within a building. It's the materials within the building that generate the heat release.”

The greater certainty about the material properties involved would allow the team to evaluate whether WTC 7 could have collapsed as a result of burning materials being ejected from WTC 1 and igniting fires on the 12th and 13th floors. The team’s analysis eventually led them to conclude that even with very high estimates for the amount of combustible materials present in office buildings — using the maximum amounts allowed in the building codes — and making many other generous assumptions, such as having two floors “totally ablaze with raging inferno fires,” WTC 7 still would not collapse.

NIST could not have been correct in claiming that such a failure mechanism could have resulted in the collapse.

Korol’s July 2015 paper, “Performance-based fire protection of office buildings: A case study based on the collapse of WTC 7,” used accepted equations associated with thermodynamics and heat transfer to determine how much heat could be generated from office fires. Studying the type of fire that would occur in a typical office arrangement with cubicle partitions, he and his fellow researchers derived the temperature that would have been reached based on the heat release rate of combustible materials identified by NIST and others.

Given that high burn rates do not generally last longer than about 30 minutes and that fires in office buildings do not occur over entire floors simultaneously, Korol says that the assumption of having the entire area of the 12th and 13th floors ablaze was “a ridiculously conservative estimate for the purposes of determining the consequences to the building.” Even then, the researchers showed the temperatures to be insufficient to push a girder off its seat near Column 79, thus disproving NIST’s claim that such a failure mechanism initiated the collapse of the building.

In the subsequent February 2016 paper, “The collapse of WTC 7: A re-examination of the “simple analysis” approach,” Korol considered the “virtually impossible circumstance” that the building experienced an inferno on two adjacent stories simultaneously. Noting that collapses do not occur instantaneously, Korol explains that even if two-thirds of the columns in a building are somehow “wiped out by virtue of the high heat, then the remaining one-third would still be sufficient to prevent collapse.”

According to Korol, Bažant assumed that any possible collapse would only be localized in the form of a plastic hinge; however, Korol’s team went further in terms of assessing the capacity of the columns. “Whereas Bažant assumed that there was only bending energy, we say these columns were resisting load axially — and Bažant ignored that.”

Robert Korol 2Dr. Korol has done extensive research on the axial loading properties of steel columns and beams. He appeared in the documentary “9/11 in the Academic Community,” and is seen here in his laboratory in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

Korol’s team painstakingly analyzed what would happen if WTC 7 experienced fire-induced failures of more than two-thirds of the columns on both floors 12 and 13. The researchers performed lab tests to determine the amount of resistance for the upper block of WTC 7 to come down to the floor level of story 13. Assuming that the floor slabs of floors 12 and 13 were so hot that the concrete was pulverized without any applied load (an unrealistically generous assumption), the only energy associated with the structure in those two stories would have been that of the 26 columns that had not yet failed. Accounting for the remaining amount of resistance in the building, Korol et al. found that while the 11th story would collapse, there was still enough remaining energy in the building that the structure would not fail below that point.

Korol and his colleagues also undertook tests at McMaster University with regard to pulverization of concrete that is typically specified for floors incorporating ductile steel to restrain lateral motion. He explains, “Crushing is not an effective way of transforming brittle material into pulverized material. When you combine that with the 82 columns, there is no way the building is going to come down.”

Dr. Korol and his team are not yet done with their work. They are now conducting a study of the potential for fire-induced collapse of steel-framed office buildings in general, using a 50-story building as an example. The study will examine eight different fire scenarios, four of which will consider 4 adjacent stories experiencing raging fires as might be conceived from airplane strikes at various height locations. This work builds on the research described in the two papers discussed here — and none of the scenarios being studied has resulted in a complete building collapse.

The question that remains to be answered is whether Korol’s peers in their engineering community will begin to pay attention — or if they will, instead, continue to accept on blind faith NIST’s fantastical explanation for the destruction of WTC 7. - by Mike Bondi, P.Eng.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2016, 12:24:51 PM »
Why can't these crackpots understand and accept that it's very possible for buildings to collapse like a deck of cards.  It happens all the time around the world.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2016, 01:14:32 PM »
Why can't these crackpots understand and accept that it's very possible for buildings to collapse like a deck of cards.  It happens all the time around the world.

Yes and no.

A bit of skepticism  is a healthy thing. Doesnt make you some bat-sh1tt crazy, faaaaaar left keyboard loser.

False flags. Google this term and youll find scores of acts of violence undertaken which have been since admitted to as being manufactured by senior governments officials and the like.

As an example, its generally accepted as a fact these days that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was manufactured to get the US into the Vietnam war. How many people died?

What do people believe as part of the children overboard fiasco?

False flags are a real possibility in our world.






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Re: 9/11
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2016, 01:20:57 PM »
Why can't these crackpots understand and accept that it's very possible for buildings to collapse like a deck of cards.  It happens all the time around the world.

Yes and no.

A bit of skepticism  is a healthy thing. Doesnt make you some bat-poot crazy, faaaaaar left keyboard loser.

False flags. Google this term and youll find scores of acts of violence undertaken which have been since admitted to as being manufactured by senior governments officials and the like.

As an example, its generally accepted as a fact these days that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was manufactured to get the US into the Vietnam war. How many people died?

What do people believe as part of the children overboard fiasco?

False flags are a real possibility in our world.

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Dan Elsberg, Dooks.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-34Wu2zDfcY
Caracella and Balmey.