Cousins vs a Young Kid

[WilliamPowell]

I want what is best for the RFC ....

If you de-list someone and then say we may rookie you then you run the risk of that player not getting through to you .... that appears to the be scenario the Tigers are faced with....

I cannot believe I am saying this but I'd take Cousins over a kid at this stage

Now that I am home from taking the dogs to the Vet for their annual vaccinations I'd like to qualify my comment above.

First up this isn't a slight on Dave Gourdis....

The RFC are duty bound to take the best player available at pick 6...

But if the plan is to take Gourdis in the PSD then I don't know if that qualifies as the best available player - youngster or re-cycled

[bushranger]

I understood what you were on about in the first post that you made.
And I agree with it all. And this is why I think we will take Cousins as number 6.
And why should we worry what other teams think of us.
They will be afraid of us and this is why most are making comments.
Though Free'o might slip him in before we get to him then we will have to rethink.
As Free'o would love to stick it to us as well as the Eagles.
But I don't know if they have to go where they are drafted to. I hope someone can clear that part up for me.
As I think I read it somewhere that they don't have to go if they don't like the team.
So someone please clear this up for me.

[Chuck17]

But I don't know if they have to go where they are drafted to. I hope someone can clear that part up for me.
As I think I read it somewhere that they don't have to go if they don't like the team.
So someone please clear this up for me.

They dont have to but they can't play football for another AFL team.

Although since Gourdis is from WA it may be an attractive proposition.

[Jacosh]

I personally want us to go for a kid.  I dont think one is a bigger risk than the other and Cousin's has had more than enough chances IMHO.  If we got the nod from the AFL and it didnt mean chosing one or the other then fine but it didnt happen.
Regardless on which way we go, we are going to get a LOT of media attention tomorrow.  If we have anyone loking at being a co major sponsor they should get on board early tomorrow morning.

[yellowandback]

Either way, I am reasonably relaxed on the whole matter. Cuz or Gourdis, both are risky. Drafting Cuz doesn't prove that he will work out - if that was the case he'd be at Collingwood, Lions, Saints or even Essendon.

We'd still be waiting at least until the pre season cup or even Round 1. Even then, if we'd seen him at the top of his game, you'd still be wanting 2-3-4 months without the strings going ping before thinking he was on his way.

[TigerRocket]

I have been traveling for a while and just realized this was a decision we were considering. Didn't we pass with our last selection in the Draft? If our strategy was locked with 'all possibilities' why would we have not used that selection to take either Cousins or Gourdis and then we would have had the choice of either now!! I bet if Sheedy had been involved we would not have left that opportunity slip!!

[WilliamPowell]

I bet if Sheedy had been involved we would not have left that opportunity slip!!

No disrespect but I don't understand your logic here.

What's Sheedy got to do with it?

[TigerRocket]

Simply that it appears his 'influence' has been too late for ensure all of the options on Draft Day were explored when we decided to pass on our last pick.

[WilliamPowell]

Simply that it appears his 'influence' has been too late for ensure all of the options on Draft Day were explored when we decided to pass on our last pick.

Bottom line is under his current role at the Tigers he isn't supposed to have any "influence" on footy personal matters.

That's not what he is at the club for.... he is an "ambassador" for membership & marketing

[WA Tiger]

Tell you what though IMO what a waste if we redraft Gourdis, *smile* we just delisted him.

[julzqld]

Isn't it likely that Freo will pick up Gourdis?

[Judge Roughneck]

Isn't it likely that Freo will pick up Gourdis?

Who gives a poo?

I cannot beleive he is worth getting if we delisted him 4 weeks ago...

[mightytiges]

I have been traveling for a while and just realized this was a decision we were considering. Didn't we pass with our last selection in the Draft? If our strategy was locked with 'all possibilities' why would we have not used that selection to take either Cousins or Gourdis and then we would have had the choice of either now!! I bet if Sheedy had been involved we would not have left that opportunity slip!!

It was the case that we were actually going to pick up Gourdis as a rookie initially last year but we heard other clubs in the PSD were interested in him so we took him with pick 1. Presumably we decided to delist him from the senior list in the hope to pick him up as a rookie today.

As for picking up Gourdis or Cousins in the this year's National draft, you would need to argue we should have cut deeper and delisted more players to end up with more than the 5 picks we started with to grab both. Then again Cousins wasn't on our radar as he was expected to head to St Kilda or Brisbane and Ben himself was sitting back waiting to waltz back into the AFL, and Gourdis was considered as a rookie option. We traded one of those 5 picks away for Thomson leaving 4 picks in the National draft which we intended to all use. We used our first two picks on kids Vickery and Post and then took Hislop at pick 58 as he wasn't expected to be around at 70. We had a list of 5 or 6 kids we rated for one of our two later picks but it turned out they were all gone by pick 70 so we decided to wait until the PSD and access the kids who missed out on the draft altogther at RFC training sessions. The Club has since sat down and assessed these kids, plus Liddle from Coburg and some other ring-ins.

[Infamy]

Isn't it likely that Freo will pick up Gourdis?

Who gives a poo?

I cannot beleive he is worth getting if we delisted him 4 weeks ago...

He was only delisted so we could put him on the rookie list, it was a list management decision because he was a project player
I don't know how many times this needs to be explained

[Jackstar]

He was only delisted so we could put him on the rookie list, it was a list management decision because he was a project player
I don't know how many times this needs to be explained

In laymans terminology: 'Project Player' = close your eyes, hold your breath, and pray.