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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2009, 09:24:27 PM »
After tonight on the couch
he sounded very nervous and I think he is a dead man walking.
Sounded very unconvincing and I think he realises that the for the first time in his tenure the clock is ticking against him.

Really were we watching the same show  ;D I thought he sounded like he always does

Gerard asked "if you lose next week will you resign"

TW: No. I wouldn't expect my players to walk away so I am wont (or words to that effect)

The put his record up you know the 38.5% winning rate. Healy asked did they go to hard early - should we have cut to the core more in hhis first year.

Answer: they cut 26 player sin the first 2 years. When he got there there were a number of blokes who had 1, 2 and 3 year deal so for those players you are unable to much with them

Mike asked if he was going to keep playing guys who continue to turn the ballover, Mike listed Tambling and King.

Answer: firstly on Tambling said that most people wouldn't have known that Tambling had a things outside of footy happening in the last 72 hours with his wife giving birth to their 2nd child and basically having no sleep for the past 48 hours. But he said that tambling knows that his game today was unacceptable

TW added that players who cannot kick will perish

Mike then asked how can you say that when you keep playing the same players?

Answer: wnet back to the Carlton game and said they had picked that night what they believed to be our best kicking side. After that game which he descirbed as a "diabolical disaster" they decided to go with a team for geelong than would compete but didn't have the disposal skills. Results show that the competitiveness was there last week.

Hird asked where TW thought we'd be after six rounds (win/loss)

Answer: TW said that there many who expected us to 0-3. Healy countered by saying with Mike trying to talk over him that it isn't the fact we've lost but how we've been "non-competitive" in 2 of them. TW agreed and said that problem

TW said that going into round 3 he thought Footscray had been in good form, Mike said I thought they played average today. Clean out your ears Mike  ::)

Final questions from Healy

Can you still make the finals?

Answer: YES - 3 games into 22 game season but the next 3 weeks absolutely crucial for the Club

If you are 1-5  after six rounds and someone taps you on the shoulder would you quit/

Answer: NO



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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2009, 09:26:11 PM »
thanks tuckerbag

well the drums must be beating loud then we can assume

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2009, 09:27:11 PM »
they asked him how many young players he has bought through, he named 4. Moore,Foley, McGaune ans White.
Thats one a year. :banghead Most clubs have 3-4 players a year..

Again you take liberty with what was said to suit your purpose

What did he say after he spoke about White? Care to add that

He said he could go on .....



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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2009, 09:31:36 PM »
they asked him how many young players he has bought through, he named 4. Moore,Foley, McGaune ans White.
Thats one a year. :banghead Most clubs have 3-4 players a year..

Again you take liberty with what was said to suit your purpose

What did he say after he spoke about White? Care to add that

He said he could go on .....





question?

how can terry praise foley and white but say guys that cant kick wont last in the game. well these 2 plus king make 3 guys who can run fast but cant kick. so i guess terry should rethink what he says

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2009, 09:34:23 PM »
question?

how can terry praise foley and white but say guys that cant kick wont last in the game. well these 2 plus king make 3 guys who can run fast but cant kick. so i guess terry should rethink what he says

the question he was asked by Mike was who in the last 4 years has improved? He said that the first 2 he would look at was 2 blokes of the rookie list who were now in the leadership group in Moore & Foley, then he went onto McGuane followed by White
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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2009, 09:36:42 PM »
fairies muff

still think white and foley are way overrated and skills are way below par

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 09:39:15 PM »
Here's a really rough summary:

Wallace on On the Couch

0-3 – will he resign.  No.  He wouldn’t expect players to step aside and say it’s all too hard, so why should he.  Given a task to do and will continue to do to the best of his ability.

Does he feel like he’s on death row.  Given March’s comments that we would have to make the finals to keep his job, is it just a matter of time?  Plough says he’s unsure whether he put it on record or March did that he would resign if he didn’t make the finals.
He said in the fifth year, with the supporter base being patient, if we didn’t have gradual improvement, commonsense that it would be the outcome he’d resign.

38% win rate, is it good enough?  No, it’s not.  But when you look at percentages at any stage you can read what you want.  When you have one year when you have 3 wins for an entire season, that blows everything out of the water.  Certainly, one of those years really was a disaster for us.

Did Wallace go too hard too early?  10 wins in 2005, 11 wins, then 3 wins.  Should we have cut harder earlier?  Plough was asked that question earlier.  We cut 25 players in the first two years, with other players on one, two and three year contacts.  You don’t have control over previous decisions on contracted players.  Choice is then do you play them.  Those early years with Gaspar and Kellaway, should we have played them.  They are there and they’re stalwarts of the footy club so you do what you do.

Sheahan says we’re still doing the same thing now with guys like Tambling, Schultz, King, blokes making the same mistakes week after week.  Plough says what do you replace it with.

Do you stick with blokes that aren’t going to deliver.  Re Tambo.  In the Carlton game he thought Richie was one of the few who had a go.  He had a poor game today, but tough last 72 hours with the birth of his kid and no sleep.

Game v Carlton – Gerard says it shows they’re not ready to mentally improve.  You build up and you build up to a game, and when you lose hope and all of a sudden you realise you’re not going to win, all of a sudden the air comes out of the tyres and you wonder what you’ve done for two hours.  Our build up was such that we thought we’d win the game.  They got there and made mistakes early and it all fell apart. 

Coaching for the future and players know he’s playing for his future, does it create tension with the players?  Certainly it can, and he things your ability to not lose your players when the pressure’s on.  And if you take the pressure and try to apply the pressure just smack bang onto the playing group and try and deflect it, he thinks no doubt it can happen.  But we should be rowing the boat together.  We’re three weeks into a 22 round season, and we’ve got to continue to row the boat together.  He’s still has to have the ability to call a spade a spade.  He should be able to call it when a player’s not towing the line and they have t have the ability to take it. 

After round 6, where did he expect us to be?  A lot of people would have thought it was 50/50 v Carlton.  And noone over the last couple of weeks would have expected us to win.

Lack of competitiveness is more the issue.  First game was a disaster.  Today he thought we were beaten by our use of the football.  Our 2nd quarter was the worst part of our game today.  Our inability to hit targets.

Sheahan says it’s the same players week in and week out that make the same skill errors.  Terry – if they’re not good enough, they won’t survive in the game.  When we go to match committee again, we’ll be looking at it again. 

Where do you find good kicks that want to compete?  We’re hoping to get a few back, like Cotchin, Connors, McMahon. 

Is it skill, decision making or combination of both?  Shane Edward’s kick last week Gerard said was the worst kick he’s seen all year.  Terry says, he wasn’t thinking.  There were no targets down forward, so he should have held the ball and look laterally for players coming down the ground.  In the game against Geelong, we used the middle corridor well and that’s why were able to compete.

Thought the Bulldogs were as good as Geelong.  Thought Geelong were a bit flat. 

Jeff Bond’s(sp), psychologist, ex AIS.  What’s his role?  He’s there for players and staff members.  What he does is he takes Terry’s coach’s notes and analyses what’s going on from the perspective of how we’re dealing with players.  He’s there to be dealing with players and being involved in all aspects.  All clubs have that kind of person.

Who has improved since he’s been at the club?  Moore, Foley from rookies.  Luke McGuane has come on.  Mattie White.

Can we make the finals?  Yes, of course we can.  We’re three rounds into a comp where we’ve played the top three or so sides in the business.  We’ve got to beat the sides that are going to be around the same mark as us, knock them over and start beating some of the better teams.

Can we be 3-3 after round 6?  Possibility, but we’ve got to do it.  The ball’s in our court.

If they’re all losses or it’s 5 and 1, will he have to be tapped on the shoulder or will he walk?  He thought he answered that at the beginning of the program.



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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 09:40:14 PM »
After tonight on the couch
he sounded very nervous and I think he is a dead man walking.
Sounded very unconvincing and I think he realises that the for the first time in his tenure the clock is ticking against him.

Really were we watching the same show  ;D I thought he sounded like he always does

Gerard asked "if you lose next week will you resign"

TW: No. I wouldn't expect my players to walk away so I am wont (or words to that effect)

The put his record up you know the 38.5% winning rate. Healy asked did they go to hard early - should we have cut to the core more in hhis first year.

Answer: they cut 26 player sin the first 2 years. When he got there there were a number of blokes who had 1, 2 and 3 year deal so for those players you are unable to much with them

Mike asked if he was going to keep playing guys who continue to turn the ballover, Mike listed Tambling and King.

Answer: firstly on Tambling said that most people wouldn't have known that Tambling had a things outside of footy happening in the last 72 hours with his wife giving birth to their 2nd child and basically having no sleep for the past 48 hours. But he said that tambling knows that his game today was unacceptable

TW added that players who cannot kick will perish

Mike then asked how can you say that when you keep playing the same players?

Answer: wnet back to the Carlton game and said they had picked that night what they believed to be our best kicking side. After that game which he descirbed as a "diabolical disaster" they decided to go with a team for geelong than would compete but didn't have the disposal skills. Results show that the competitiveness was there last week.

Hird asked where TW thought we'd be after six rounds (win/loss)

Answer: TW said that there many who expected us to 0-3. Healy countered by saying with Mike trying to talk over him that it isn't the fact we've lost but how we've been "non-competitive" in 2 of them. TW agreed and said that problem

TW said that going into round 3 he thought Footscray had been in good form, Mike said I thought they played average today. Clean out your ears Mike  ::)

Final questions from Healy

Can you still make the finals?

Answer: YES - 3 games into 22 game season but the next 3 weeks absolutely crucial for the Club

If you are 1-5  after six rounds and someone taps you on the shoulder would you quit/

Answer: NO




Sorry Willy, we were both on the same wave length.  Hopefully you covered what I missed and vice versa :-)

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2009, 09:45:54 PM »
After tonight on the couch
he sounded very nervous and I think he is a dead man walking.
Sounded very unconvincing and I think he realises that the for the first time in his tenure the clock is ticking against him.

Really were we watching the same show  ;D I thought he sounded like he always does

Gerard asked "if you lose next week will you resign"

TW: No. I wouldn't expect my players to walk away so I am wont (or words to that effect)

The put his record up you know the 38.5% winning rate. Healy asked did they go to hard early - should we have cut to the core more in hhis first year.

Answer: they cut 26 player sin the first 2 years. When he got there there were a number of blokes who had 1, 2 and 3 year deal so for those players you are unable to much with them

Mike asked if he was going to keep playing guys who continue to turn the ballover, Mike listed Tambling and King.

Answer: firstly on Tambling said that most people wouldn't have known that Tambling had a things outside of footy happening in the last 72 hours with his wife giving birth to their 2nd child and basically having no sleep for the past 48 hours. But he said that tambling knows that his game today was unacceptable

TW added that players who cannot kick will perish

Mike then asked how can you say that when you keep playing the same players?

Answer: wnet back to the Carlton game and said they had picked that night what they believed to be our best kicking side. After that game which he descirbed as a "diabolical disaster" they decided to go with a team for geelong than would compete but didn't have the disposal skills. Results show that the competitiveness was there last week.

Hird asked where TW thought we'd be after six rounds (win/loss)

Answer: TW said that there many who expected us to 0-3. Healy countered by saying with Mike trying to talk over him that it isn't the fact we've lost but how we've been "non-competitive" in 2 of them. TW agreed and said that problem

TW said that going into round 3 he thought Footscray had been in good form, Mike said I thought they played average today. Clean out your ears Mike  ::)

Final questions from Healy

Can you still make the finals?

Answer: YES - 3 games into 22 game season but the next 3 weeks absolutely crucial for the Club

If you are 1-5  after six rounds and someone taps you on the shoulder would you quit/

Answer: NO






From where I stood WP I thought he was nervous.

I would not quit after round 6 either if I was 1-5 as I would not get paid out as per the conditions of my contract. I would wait to be tapped on the shoulder as Spud was. I am sure Terry being Terry would wait for that tap on the shoulder as would any reasonable person who may be waiting for a 250K package or stand to lose that amount if they resign mid season.

Being 0-3 although realistic do you think they would have been bantering that up when Ben Cuz was picked up. I am sure our membership would not have been sitting at 35000. No point talking about it now when we are 0-3 and saying we thought we might be there.

Tambling as much as I hope all is well with his baby and partner you cross the white line you are ready to play and to show how much we erred as a club if he had no sleep for one night within 72 hours of the match is akin to someone at the pub on the turps within that time. Both player and club ahve erred and its no excuse. I didn't see the Dogs playing with 17 men to accomodate for Tambo's lack of sleep.

Competitiveness means nothing if it does not equate to wins. No point losing by 20 points each week against quality oppositions when wins equates to finals and equates to success.

As for the turnovers it probably is a combination of the players we have recruited as much of Terry instilling a game plan to a team that essentially is bereft of skill.

Lets call a spade a spade WP. We all love the Tiges and we don't want to see things that occurred in Spuds last year from our fans and the club but he has had 5 years and he has failed. If you saw things differently then each to their own.

As for me I could not care less whether Terry coaches next week or our next flag or Dorothy the Dinosaur for that matter as when all these coaches directors players come and go I will still be there supporting the club. Its always us the supporters whose tenure and support far outweighs any RFC officials tenure.

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2009, 09:49:31 PM »
its time to find a couple of businessmen to put up the cash so we can pay him out. its time for him to go. we need someone like Hardwick.

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2009, 09:52:48 PM »
why ?

why not every member and fan who wants wallace out pay him out if they want him gone so badly

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2009, 09:55:39 PM »
its time to find a couple of businessmen to put up the cash so we can pay him out. its time for him to go. we need someone like Hardwick.

Ramps in the current climate and with the current board the businessman/men to pay out his contract would have to be part of a new board takeover or current board members who would agree to work with a new board. March will not commit to such a proposal and even if an election was held it would more than likely take place after the season when Terry would be gone anyway.

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2009, 09:57:10 PM »
If the club had no faith in him, they should have cut him last year and started with a new coach this year.
If they sack him after four rounds, would be poor form IMO.
If you're playing three of the top teams it's not inconceivable you won't win any
It's the next three games that matter and he should be judged after round six.
We were in the same position last season and we turned it around.  We can do the same again.

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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2009, 10:11:27 PM »
Lets call a spade a spade WP. We all love the Tiges and we don't want to see things that occurred in Spuds last year from our fans and the club but he has had 5 years and he has failed. If you saw things differently then each to their own.


Tucker my issue has always been that the blame at the moment is focused on one individual rather than every single one of them.... players, other coaches, the club

I hate seeing this club reacting the way others (media, other club supporters etc) want us to. It drives me to this  :banghead

Believe me I am gutted by this loss - it is worse than round 1 but whether we want to face it or not we are 3 games into the season.

But people can have a go at me as much as they like but as far as I am concerned we are our own worst enemy at times..

I will repeat today's effort was unacceptable, it was insipid in the final quarter but facts are we are 3 games in and to think that yet again some so called "richmond people" (and gawd how I hate that term) are again plotting there own agendas and think their views are more improtant and carry more weight than yours or mine just p-sses me off

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As for me I could not care less whether Terry coaches next week or our next flag or Dorothy the Dinosaur for that matter as when all these coaches directors players come and go I will still be there supporting the club. Its always us the supporters whose tenure and support far outweighs any RFC officials tenure.

Agree 100%
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Re: Terry Wallace on the couch tonight
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2009, 10:12:38 PM »
Sorry Willy, we were both on the same wave length.  Hopefully you covered what I missed and vice versa :-)


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