Angus Graham [merged]

[gerkin greg]

GG if Blake makes you sick what does Gus do to you then?

 

[Con65]

GG thats funny but in the meantime we dont have a competitive ruckman.

Watching the vision of Graham standing on the line and watching the ball cross the line for a goal as Rance tried spetacularly unsuccessfully to touch the ball was  too.  It was simply poetry in motion watching those 2 do that.

[Judge Roughneck]

Gus is OUR best ruckman by a long stretch. Browne is not the answer at the moment. His tapwork is reasonable but it stops there. His movement around the ground is ordinary and his endurance makes Gus looks like he is from Kenya. He may yet come on but currently he is far from our No. 1 ruck option.

I hope that Derickx comes on. He looks to be the most mobile and skillful of our ruckmen along with Vickery at the moment. I can see Derickx and Vickery becoming our ruck combination in the near future but only if Derickx can improve his tap work and remain injury free.

But Browne....I just can't see it happening  

browne is not natanui but his movment around the ground cannot be any worse than Graham

[gerkin greg]

GG thats funny but in the meantime we dont have a competitive ruckman.

Watching the vision of Graham standing on the line and watching the ball cross the line for a goal as Rance tried spetacularly unsuccessfully to touch the ball was  too.  It was simply poetry in motion watching those 2 do that.

Blake would still have been standing in the centre circle

[RedanTiger]

GG thats funny but in the meantime we dont have a competitive ruckman.

Watching the vision of Graham standing on the line and watching the ball cross the line for a goal as Rance tried spetacularly unsuccessfully to touch the ball was  too.  It was simply poetry in motion watching those 2 do that.

One of the more unfair/untrue statements about Graham.
He was actually keeping HIS opponent away from the ball, allowing Rance to either punch or mark the ball unopposed.

[the claw]

I think the odds
of browne making it are good.

He look promising. I don't understand why he isn't in the team now. I think he'd Offer at least Equal output grhaham is currently proving. 

nothing changes with some players worst no1 ruckman in the comp and only on a par at best with most no2 ruckmen.
on big footy there were some defending this doofus and his performance against hudson.

sheesh we need to go out and get our hands on two or three ruckmen one mature one at that.
the reality of our ruck stocks is.
graham a dud so many deficiencies no wonder he lasted to the rookie list.
browne another rookie with very similar knocks on him as there was on graham, what are the realistic chances of him making it.
derickx a 23 yr old wafl ruckman who showed a bit at wafl but what are the odds of him making it at afl those odds must be slim.
vickery well is he a ruckman or forward either way hes still at least 2 seasons away from first ruck duties if he ends up playing there.

not saying browne wont but geez he has a long way to go. the above appraisal was given mainly as a reason why we should be looking to get more ruckmen on the list. load up a little if you like. if we end up with 4 or 5 decent ruckmen we then do what other well run clubs have done trade out the excess for decent picks.
atm we cant say we have 1 very good ruckman in our system yet alone 4 or 5. its likely we will turn 5 or 6 just to end up with 3. thats the way it works.

[Judge Roughneck]

What we have is 4 ruckman all u23 you pessimistic toad.

Long term it's a healthy postion to be in given ruckman don't start finding. Best form untill 25/26

[Con65]

GG thats funny but in the meantime we dont have a competitive ruckman.

Watching the vision of Graham standing on the line and watching the ball cross the line for a goal as Rance tried spetacularly unsuccessfully to touch the ball was  too.  It was simply poetry in motion watching those 2 do that.

One of the more unfair/untrue statements about Graham.
He was actually keeping HIS opponent away from the ball, allowing Rance to either punch or mark the ball unopposed.

Redan I saw the vision again on Monday night - Graham is on the goal line, an opponent (not sure if it was Gus' man was standing in front of Gus and Rance was in front of both of them.  How was Gus keeping his man out of the contest from behind?

Gus was the last man standing on the goal line.  Isnt it the ruckman's job on the goal line to touch the  ball so that it goes through for a behind and not a goal?

Unfortunately I cannot find vision on the net of what I am trying to describe.  A highlights package of the bulldogs goals is what I am trying to find.

[Jackstar is back again]

bye angus

[TigerLand]

Yes!

Bring on Big Red!!

[Francois Jackson]

GG thats funny but in the meantime we dont have a competitive ruckman.

Watching the vision of Graham standing on the line and watching the ball cross the line for a goal as Rance tried spetacularly unsuccessfully to touch the ball was  too.  It was simply poetry in motion watching those 2 do that.

any chance of anyone having any vision of it, i completely missed it.

He is a complete whimp that bloke. I cringe every time i see footage of him falling to his knees as if a tornado was bearing down to him.

We are better off without him. He is everything we dont want in a footballer

[Willy]

I don't like Graham but from what I've seen Browne is miles behind him. I suppose it won't hurt to try him out but I doubt he has the ability to run out even 2 quarters in the big league from what I've seen. He looks too slow, too tired and too awkward to be an AFL player IMO.

I thought Browne's form at Coburg up until last week has been very strong.

What more can he do?

Certainly worth a try, I reckon.

[Tigeritis™©®]

I don't like Graham but from what I've seen Browne is miles behind him. I suppose it won't hurt to try him out but I doubt he has the ability to run out even 2 quarters in the big league from what I've seen. He looks too slow, too tired and too awkward to be an AFL player IMO.

I thought Browne's form at Coburg up until last week has been very strong.

What more can he do?

Certainly worth a try, I reckon.

well ok then. The match committee must think he's up to the task. I personally can't see it. I know he's young but I don't like his running style too much dinosaur if you ask me. Big ask too against Hill and Ryder. 
I hope I'm wrong though and he's the next sandilands/cox/Mumford.

I hope he does well. 

[Smokey]

He is a complete whimp that bloke. I cringe every time i see footage of him falling to his knees as if a tornado was bearing down to him.

We are better off without him. He is everything we dont want in a footballer

Spot on Daniel.  Never been so happy to see an In and Out as I was when I got my SMS today.  I don't care if Browne doesn't set the world on fire - I am just so glad to see the back of the biggest marshmallow playing senior AFL football.

[RedanTiger]

Watching the vision of Graham standing on the line and watching the ball cross the line for a goal as Rance tried spetacularly unsuccessfully to touch the ball was  too.  It was simply poetry in motion watching those 2 do that.

any chance of anyone having any vision of it, i completely missed it.
He is a complete whimp that bloke. I cringe every time i see footage of him falling to his knees as if a tornado was bearing down to him.
We are better off without him. He is everything we dont want in a footballer

Con, I went to the AFL site and found it under the Game Analyser, Footscray Goals, 97.02 minutes, Liam Jones goal.
http://www.gameanalyser.afl.com.au/?round=784&match=10310807&videoQuality=high
Their last goal in the third quarter, if it makes things easier.

I think it shows what I described, Graham pushing Minson away from the goal line and under the ball while allowing Rance to come back and hit the ball.
Neither Richmond player shows a great deal of ability or understanding but IMO Graham was doing the right thing and relying on Rance to rush the behind.