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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2011, 10:05:13 AM »
thought there was a big improvement by Gus last night, we flogged therm in hit outs.
big problem with Gus, gives away too many frees

I agree, I think it was one of his better efforts, we still need a upgrade here though. I have been waiting and waiting for him to take that next step. I had confidence he would but now I am doubting that he has much more to offer than what we saw last night. Maybe if the X man puts some preasure on him (probably not though). Vickery was disapointing last night after taking a few foward steps this year, young still so will give him time.
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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #241 on: April 16, 2011, 10:39:45 AM »
I thought Gus was as effective cardboard cut out around the ground. Very very slow.

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #242 on: April 16, 2011, 10:42:02 AM »
Gus getting out marked Steele Sidebottom nearly forced me to jump off the top teir.

He did however have a good 3rd qtr.

Won the hitouts against an ordinary VFL ruckman.

He had a pass game, he's still not the answer for mine. Would love to be proved wrong. No other clubs number 1 ruckman is suspect overhead.
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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #243 on: April 16, 2011, 10:43:26 AM »
thought there was a big improvement by Gus last night, we flogged therm in hit outs.
big problem with Gus, gives away too many frees

I agree, I think it was one of his better efforts, we still need a upgrade here though. I have been waiting and waiting for him to take that next step. I had confidence he would but now I am doubting that he has much more to offer than what we saw last night. Maybe if the X man puts some preasure on him (probably not though). Vickery was disapointing last night after taking a few foward steps this year, young still so will give him time.
We don't need an upgrade yet though unless we are going to take another gun junior with an early pick
We can always trade for a ruckmen like Sydney did for Jolly (and Mumford recently), Geelong did for Ottens and then Collingwood did for Jolly. I'm sure there are others too, Hawks have traded for more rucks also.

In fact free agency will be a great way to get a ruckman, 8 years development under the belt and all we need to do is offer a decent contract their current club can't match

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #244 on: April 16, 2011, 10:52:52 AM »
Gus getting out marked Steele Sidebottom nearly forced me to jump off the top teir.

He did however have a good 3rd qtr.

Won the hitouts against an ordinary VFL ruckman.

He had a pass game, he's still not the answer for mine. Would love to be proved wrong. No other clubs number 1 ruckman is suspect overhead.

Exactly played against Cam Wood and not Darren Jolly who is a more influential mobile and more plentiful goal kicking ruckman. Yep the members in the second tier of the Olympic were going beserk when SIdebottom outmarked him.

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #245 on: April 16, 2011, 07:02:12 PM »
I thought Gus was as effective cardboard cut out around the ground. Very very slow.

Bingo.   Using his hitout figure as a 'proof' of his worth is a waste of time - almost every tap went to the opposition.  Bloody useless lump.

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« Reply #246 on: April 17, 2011, 12:10:04 AM »
I thought Gus was as effective cardboard cut out around the ground. Very very slow.

Bingo.   Using his hitout figure as a 'proof' of his worth is a waste of time - almost every tap went to the opposition.  Bloody useless lump.

Double bingo.
I was a supporter of Gus but this season he has lost me. Useless lump who costs us goals both for and against.
As said, the biggest problem is that even when we win the tap it doesn't go to advantage, usually towards the opposition goals. Why give up yards if it's on the ground?
Astounding that I watched Majac Daw play for Werribee today and he gave the best taps to advantage I've seen in years at any level. Amazingly uninvolved player though.

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #247 on: April 17, 2011, 01:23:15 PM »
Cam Wood is pathetic

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #248 on: April 17, 2011, 01:24:08 PM »
Cam Wood is pathetic

Yep Gus got off light.

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #249 on: May 16, 2011, 10:40:52 PM »
Poor Gus copped it from Walls tonight on One Week At A Time for looking at Hudson at every centre bounce and not the ball. Darcy was a bit more forgiving saying Brendan Lade made a career of having a sneak peak at you as the opposition ruckman and then slamming into your ribs. Purely watching the ball at the centre bounce is brave but it can also be dumb at times. Darcy said Gus just did it poorly and so was ineffective.

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« Reply #250 on: May 16, 2011, 11:35:28 PM »
Onya Wallnut  :thumbsup

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #251 on: May 17, 2011, 07:12:11 AM »
Poor Gus copped it from Walls tonight on One Week At A Time for looking at Hudson at every centre bounce and not the ball. Darcy was a bit more forgiving saying Brendan Lade made a career of having a sneak peak at you as the opposition ruckman and then slamming into your ribs. Purely watching the ball at the centre bounce is brave but it can also be dumb at times. Darcy said Gus just did it poorly and so was ineffective.

Don't often agree with Wallsy but he was spot on with this, Darcy came across as the dill apart from the part where he said Gus was ineffective  ;D
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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #252 on: May 17, 2011, 09:50:43 PM »
nothing changes with some players worst no1 ruckman in the comp and only on a par at best with most no2 ruckmen.
on big footy there were some defending this doofus and his performance against hudson.

sheesh we need to go out and get our hands on two or three ruckmen one mature one at that.
the reality of our ruck stocks is.
graham a dud so many deficiencies no wonder he lasted to the rookie list.
browne another rookie with very similar knocks on him as there was on graham, what are the realistic chances of him making it.
derickx a 23 yr old wafl ruckman who showed a bit at wafl but what are the odds of him making it at afl those odds must be slim.
vickery well is he a ruckman or forward either way hes still at least 2 seasons away from first ruck duties if he ends up playing there.

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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #253 on: May 17, 2011, 10:31:32 PM »
nothing changes with some players worst no1 ruckman in the comp and only on a par at best with most no2 ruckmen.
on big footy there were some defending this doofus and his performance against hudson.

sheesh we need to go out and get our hands on two or three ruckmen one mature one at that.
the reality of our ruck stocks is.
graham a dud so many deficiencies no wonder he lasted to the rookie list.
browne another rookie with very similar knocks on him as there was on graham, what are the realistic chances of him making it.
derickx a 23 yr old wafl ruckman who showed a bit at wafl but what are the odds of him making it at afl those odds must be slim.
vickery well is he a ruckman or forward either way hes still at least 2 seasons away from first ruck duties if he ends up playing there.

spot on Claw. Tell me how a VFL ruckman can possibly be any worse than Graham.

We need to find out if Browne can play.

I cant bear to watch him anymore go to ground, when he hears footsteps.




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Re: Angus Graham [merged]
« Reply #254 on: May 18, 2011, 12:10:41 AM »

I think the odds
of browne making it are good.

He look promising. I don't understand why he isn't in the team now. I think he'd Offer at least Equal output grhaham is currently proving. 

nothing changes with some players worst no1 ruckman in the comp and only on a par at best with most no2 ruckmen.
on big footy there were some defending this doofus and his performance against hudson.

sheesh we need to go out and get our hands on two or three ruckmen one mature one at that.
the reality of our ruck stocks is.
graham a dud so many deficiencies no wonder he lasted to the rookie list.
browne another rookie with very similar knocks on him as there was on graham, what are the realistic chances of him making it.
derickx a 23 yr old wafl ruckman who showed a bit at wafl but what are the odds of him making it at afl those odds must be slim.
vickery well is he a ruckman or forward either way hes still at least 2 seasons away from first ruck duties if he ends up playing there.