World Cup 2022 Bid [merged]

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The Age is back attacking the Aussie bid process. Anyone offering a case of wine?

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/fawning-to-fifa-officials-exposed-in-secret-documents-20101206-18mtq.html

so much for the clean bid lol. New Football stuffed up. They should take some responsibility for this fiasco!

[mightytiges]

You've got to love how FIFA now want to change the 2022 WC in Qatar to the northern hemisphere winter. So we went through all that "code war" rubbish to satisfy those corrupt fat cats in Zurich for nothing.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fifa-say-2022-world-cup-could-be-move-to-winter-qatar-mat-share-matches-around-middle-east/story-e6frf423-1225972548554

[mightytiges]

FIFA set to move 2022 World Cup to winter

    Sydney Morning Herald
    January 8, 2014 - 10:51PM

The 2022 World Cup in Qatar will not be held in June and July but would best be held in the winter time, FIFA general secretary Jerome Valcke said on Wednesday.

The scheduling of the tournament has been hotly debated ever since FIFA controversially awarded it to Qatar in December 2010, especially over fears that the summer heat in the Gulf emirate would be dangerous for players and fans alike.

"The dates for the World Cup (in Qatar) will not be June-July," Valcke, the second most powerful man in international footbal's governing body, told Radio France.

"To be honest, I think it will be held between November 15 and January 15 at the latest.

"If you play between November 15 and the end of December that's the time when the weather conditions are best, when you can play in temperatures equivalent to a warm spring season in Europe, averaging 25 degrees.

"That would be perfect for playing football."

Valcke did not say whether he favoured a World Cup in the winter of 2021-22 or 2022-23, but the deciding factor could be the timing of the Winter Olympics in early 2022.

There have been increasingly strident calls to switch the tournament to the winter time to accommodate players and supporters.

But this ran into opposition from European clubs, who would lose their top players for several weeks in the middle of the season, and from the International Olympic Committee fearful of any competition with the 2022 Winter Olympics.

World Cup organising committee officials in Qatar have insisted they are prepared for all eventualities concerning the 2022 showpiece.

"From the beginning, we've always said we can stage the World Cup in summer," said Hassan Al-Thawadi, secretary-general of the Qatar 2022 organising committee last month.

"The cooling system for the stadia will be very much part of our legacy. But if the football world or FIFA want it to be staged in the winter then we are happy and ready. If they want it in summer, then we are still ready."

In October FIFA said they would listen to the views of all concerned parties - players, clubs, leagues, federations and sponsors - with a view to taking a final decision on dates in December of this year.

It remains to be seen what the reaction to a possible winter World Cup will be from top European clubs such as Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United and Bayern Munich which risk having to do without their top players at a key period for domestic leagues and the Champions League.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/fifa-set-to-move-2022-world-cup-to-winter-20140108-30hyj.html#ixzz2pouXBU2G


What a surprise - NOT! 

[Judge Roughneck]

Won't happen

Spain, England won't allow it

$$$

[tony_montana]

dogs

[mightytiges]

Won't happen

Spain, England won't allow it

$$$

Players won't go if they are expected to play in 50 degree heat in June/July. It was and is a corrupt farce that Qatar were given the 2022 World Cup.

[Judge Roughneck]

In an unprecedented moment, the head of the Federation International Football Association, or FIFA, has admitted that agreeing to host the World Cup in Qatar was a terrible idea.

In an interview with a Swiss television channel reported on by The Wire, the president of FIFA, Sepp Blatter, said, "of course it was a mistake," when he was asked about the decision to allow Qatar to host an event that takes place in the summer of the Northern Hemisphere. After that statement he said, "One makes a lot of mistakes in life."

http://www.dailyzone.com/articles/608/20140516/fifa-head-calls-qatar-2020-world-cup-mistake.htm

The Qatar World Cup Is A Disaster: 1,200 Workers Dead, New Bribery Investigation
A report from the International Trade Union Confederation says 1,200 migrant workers from India and Nepal have died in Qatar since the country was awarded the 2022 World Cup. The ITUC estimates that 4,000 migrant workers will die by the time the first game is played in 2022.
Workers at the Lusail City construction site told the Guardian that their bosses have withheld pay, forced them to work in 122-degree heat with no rest for food, and confiscated their passports to make sure they don't leave the country.

[Judge Roughneck]

theguardian.com, Sunday 1 June 2014 11.14 AEST

Mohamed Bin Hammam with Sepp Blatter in Qatar in 2010. Photograph: Mohammed Dabbous/Reuters
A former top Qatari football official reportedly paid $5m to get support for the emirate's campaign to host the 2022 World Cup.

The Sunday Times said it had obtained millions of emails and other documents relating to alleged payments made by Mohamed bin Hammam, the then Fifa executive member for Qatar.

It alleged that Bin Hammam, also the former Asian Football Confederation (AFC) president, used slush funds to pay out the cash to top football officials to win a "groundswell" of support for Qatar's World Cup bid.

Bin Hammam, who launched an abortive challenge against incumbent Fifa president Sepp Blatter, resigned from his Fifa and AFC posts in 2012, shortly before he was banned for life from football administration by the global governing body's ethics committee.

The newspaper said Bin Hammam had made payments of up to $200,000 into accounts controlled by the presidents of 30 African football associations, and hosted hospitality events in Africa at which he handed out further funds, to get backing for Qatar's bid.

Bin Hammam also paid $1.6m into bank accounts controlled by the Trinidadian Jack Warner, also a former vice-president of Fifa, $450,000 of which was before the vote for the World Cup, the Sunday Times said.

Warner was one of the 22 people who in 2010 decided to award Russia the 2018 World Cup and Qatar the 2022 tournament. He stood down in 2011.

Two months ago the Daily Telegraph alleged that a company owned by Hammam had paid money to Warner.

Bin Hammam did not respond to questions and his son declined to comment on his behalf, the Sunday Times said.

It quoted the Qatari committee behind the World Cup bid as denying that Bin Hammam played any secret role in its campaign, or had any knowledge of the alleged payments.

The decision to give the World Cup to Qatar, a country with little football history, provoked widespread condemnation particularly over health concerns for players forced to play in the desert nation's stifling summer heat.

[mightytiges]

Australia may push to host the World Cup in 2022 if Qatar's successful bid is thrown out and voting reopened, with Victorian Premier Denis Napthine relishing the prospect of Melbourne playing a key role.

http://www.theage.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/world-cup-news-2014/australia-ready-to-host-2022-world-cup-20140602-39ewb.html

If Qatar is stripped of it then we'd be virtually ready to go for 2022 as far as stadia. Perth's new 60-70k stadium is scheduled to be completed by 2018 and Metricon will be expanded for the 2018 Commonwealth games. The SFS in Sydney has plans to upgrade with a roof. That's even without the World Cup. Add Suncorp, ANZ, MCG and the new Adelaide Oval as already ready to go. Newcastle and Kardinia Park would be expanded to 40-45k with a World Cup using existing plans (Geelong's stage 3 redevelopment for instance). So that leaves one stadium left to find/build to make the necessary minimum 10 stadia for a World Cup. IIRC Canberra was the 10th one in the original bid.     

[tony_montana]

They wont be stripped of it. FIFA make AFL look like rank amateurs when it comes to saying the right things and paying lip service just to be seen to be doing something

[Diocletian]

They wont be stripped of it. FIFA make AFL look like rank amateurs when it comes to saying the right things and paying lip service just to be seen to be doing something

Fallout would be too great. Scrutiny would be placed on FIFA and the other bids, with lawyers, allegations of "racism" and "arab/muslim bashing" flying everywhere. Quatari's have deep, deep pockets.

[mightytiges]

They wont be stripped of it. FIFA make AFL look like rank amateurs when it comes to saying the right things and paying lip service just to be seen to be doing something

FIFA also have deeper pockets  .

You're right TM. I'm not holding my breath expecting FIFA to do the right thing. I was just saying Australia could host the World Cup in 2022 with minimal preparation.

[Judge Roughneck]

They wont be stripped of it. FIFA make AFL look like rank amateurs when it comes to saying the right things and paying lip service just to be seen to be doing something

Fallout would be too great. Scrutiny would be placed on FIFA and the other bids, with lawyers, allegations of "racism" and "arab/muslim bashing" flying everywhere. Quatari's have deep, deep pockets.

They already had the same number of deaths just from building stadium equal to,s/11via Asian slave labour

How much fallout do they want

[Hellenic Tiger]

They wont be stripped of it. FIFA make AFL look like rank amateurs when it comes to saying the right things and paying lip service just to be seen to be doing something

FIFA also have deeper pockets  .

You're right TM. I'm not holding my breath expecting FIFA to do the right thing. I was just saying Australia could host the World Cup in 2022 with minimal preparation.

Oil money working for both parties.

[mightytiges]

They wont be stripped of it. FIFA make AFL look like rank amateurs when it comes to saying the right things and paying lip service just to be seen to be doing something

FIFA also have deeper pockets  .

You're right TM. I'm not holding my breath expecting FIFA to do the right thing. I was just saying Australia could host the World Cup in 2022 with minimal preparation.

Oil money working for both parties.

Yep. FIFA would hold the World Cup on the Moon if there was $$$ for them in it.