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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by Andyy on December 04, 2025, 12:34:12 PM »

Who guided Rance Asbury houli broad Vlastuin? Chaplin? Lol

It's cliche feel good untruths.

Vlastuin is more than enough. What's going to happen is Vlastuin. Broad. Short will be in the back 6 damaging the development of the club long term. And you'll be there sprouting zomg this is good! Luke hodge!!

Ideally Vlastuin and broad should be phased out of the back 6 either not playing if moving to wing/tagger/mid/ruck/fwd etc. to allow a back 6 develop together.

Most importantly Trainor and gibcus and then balta and miller.

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.

Yes, Rance was quite vocal about Chaplin's significant and positive influence on his development. Just because Tross became a legendary player doesn't mean Chaplin didn't help his development. Ironically Chaplin is now part of AFL coaching staff - who'd have thunk it?

Rance guided both Astbury and Grimes IMO. Probably Broad in the early days a bit as well.

Houli and Vlastuin are different sorts of players.

Broad will see out his final year and be useful, then Vlastuin will continue another year or two easily.

So you don't actually need a Luke hodge type to develop a good backline? Those were just lies a few posts up.

You can have a soft spud like Chaplin do it?

Hence balta and miller should be more than up to the task.

Well, we managed 3 flags without Luke Hodge.

Rance spoke highly of Chaplin's influence on him.

I see Broad and Vlastuin playing that role somewhat.

Evidence would suggest Balta may not be the best candidate for mentoring roles at this stage.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by ajGreen on December 04, 2025, 12:32:01 PM »

Who guided Rance Asbury houli broad Vlastuin? Chaplin? Lol

It's cliche feel good untruths.

Vlastuin is more than enough. What's going to happen is Vlastuin. Broad. Short will be in the back 6 damaging the development of the club long term. And you'll be there sprouting zomg this is good! Luke hodge!!

Ideally Vlastuin and broad should be phased out of the back 6 either not playing if moving to wing/tagger/mid/ruck/fwd etc. to allow a back 6 develop together.

Most importantly Trainor and gibcus and then balta and miller.

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.

Yes, Rance was quite vocal about Chaplin's significant and positive influence on his development. Just because Tross became a legendary player doesn't mean Chaplin didn't help his development. Ironically Chaplin is now part of AFL coaching staff - who'd have thunk it?

Rance guided both Astbury and Grimes IMO. Probably Broad in the early days a bit as well.

Houli and Vlastuin are different sorts of players.

Broad will see out his final year and be useful, then Vlastuin will continue another year or two easily.

So you don't actually need a Luke hodge type to develop a good backline? Those were just lies a few posts up.

You can have a soft spud like Chaplin do it?

Hence balta and miller should be more than up to the task.

With all that said. Much to the chagrin of clawski. I expect the back 6 will include broad. Vlastuin. Short. If they are fit due to the wishes of the selection panel

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by Andyy on December 04, 2025, 12:29:25 PM »

Who guided Rance Asbury houli broad Vlastuin? Chaplin? Lol

It's cliche feel good untruths.

Vlastuin is more than enough. What's going to happen is Vlastuin. Broad. Short will be in the back 6 damaging the development of the club long term. And you'll be there sprouting zomg this is good! Luke hodge!!

Ideally Vlastuin and broad should be phased out of the back 6 either not playing if moving to wing/tagger/mid/ruck/fwd etc. to allow a back 6 develop together.

Most importantly Trainor and gibcus and then balta and miller.

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.

Yes, Rance was quite vocal about Chaplin's significant and positive influence on his development. Just because Tross became a legendary player doesn't mean Chaplin didn't help his development. Ironically Chaplin is now part of AFL coaching staff - who'd have thunk it?

Rance guided both Astbury and Grimes IMO. Probably Broad in the early days a bit as well.

Houli and Vlastuin are different sorts of players.

Broad will see out his final year and be useful, then Vlastuin will continue another year or two easily.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by ajGreen on December 04, 2025, 12:20:52 PM »

Another factor is -

Trainor *wants* to play backline.

His best position is prob backline.

He is one of the clubs most important assets.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by Damo on December 04, 2025, 12:18:30 PM »

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.

Not in the same class
Vlastuin is my favourite player and a Richmond champion, but Hodge was a freak. One of the best to ever play the game.

That is a different conversation.

The question is why do you need Vlastuin AND Broad. Let alone short.

At this stage or a rebuild.

Definitely don’t need Short IMO
As for the other two , I would play them if available. Broad is a shadow of his best though, no doubt on that.

I’m appalling at selecting teams being honest, it’s why I very rarely post a team here. I’m opinionated on which players I like and don’t like however 

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by ajGreen on December 04, 2025, 12:09:37 PM »

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.

Not in the same class
Vlastuin is my favourite player and a Richmond champion, but Hodge was a freak. One of the best to ever play the game.

That is a different conversation.

The question is why do you need Vlastuin AND Broad. Let alone short.

At this stage of a rebuild.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by ajGreen on December 04, 2025, 11:55:38 AM »

I think your response pretty much sums up the thought put into your posting.

Richmond won 3 flags iirc.

Who was this mysterious leadership guru that taught the defenders?

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by Damo on December 04, 2025, 11:29:06 AM »

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.

Not in the same class
Vlastuin is my favourite player and a Richmond champion, but Hodge was a freak. One of the best to ever play the game. 

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by Hard Roar Tiger on December 04, 2025, 11:13:16 AM »

I think your response pretty much sums up the thought put into your posting.

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Richmond Rant / Re: Best 23 in 2026?

« Last post by ajGreen on December 04, 2025, 11:10:10 AM »

Do you not understand AJ that on field development of young players can only be fast tracked if older, more experienced players are there to guide them.
Brisbane brought Luke Hodge specifically to the Lions for that reason.
Having Nathan Broad on field for one more year is a gift to that back 6. He is continuing to play his role but as an elder statesman that role has shifted.
Brown, Banks, Gibcus are in safe hands and we should be grateful to Broad for knocking back a 3 year deal to Norf to stay for less money which he did last year.

When our back 6 is the launching pad for our premiership era in 4-5 years, I will remember selfless players like Nathan Broad who chose to stay and start to climb back up the ladder

Who guided Rance Asbury houli broad Vlastuin? Chaplin? Lol

It's cliche feel good untruths.

Vlastuin is more than enough. What's going to happen is Vlastuin. Broad. Short will be in the back 6 damaging the development of the club long term. And you'll be there sprouting zomg this is good! Luke hodge!!

Ideally Vlastuin and broad should be phased out of the back 6 either not playing if moving to wing/tagger/mid/ruck/fwd etc. to allow a back 6 develop together.

Most importantly Trainor and gibcus and then balta and miller.

You already likely have Vlastuin as a defender who is more hodge than hodge himself.