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[Tigeritis™©®]

If you think Julia Gillard is struggling check this out.

http://www.mtr1377.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7445&Itemid=438

yeh good spot richo.
I already heard this live on air. Hilarious.

She's definitely from the same school of BS. Probably getting groomed for a federal ALP seat too.

[Francois Jackson]

ive heard enough

the party is the laughing stock of the nation. FACT

I hope Turnbull makes a play for PM as then we would see the worst defeat in history. Even with Abbott the defeat will be big

[Dubstep Dookie]

I'm not one to highlight usually physical differences  , but the growing a r s e on Ju-liar is more of an embarrassment than her policies. I mean, whilst the country goes to poot, she thinks its JIVE to put on 3-4 stone? Whats next? The roman binge and purge?

[Tigeritis™©®]

I'm not one to highlight usually physical differences  , but the growing a r s e on Ju-liar is more of an embarrassment than her policies. I mean, whilst the country goes to poot, she thinks its JIVE to put on 3-4 stone? Whats next? The roman binge and purge?

Julia Gillard will be known as the worst prime minister in australias history but it won't have anything to do with her looks, her voice or her weight.
 

[Tigeritis™©®]

The NBN is going well with only 1 in 9 people connecting.
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/ultra-fast-nbn-has-sluggish-take-up-with-only-one-in-nine-connected/story-e6frgakx-1226199546472

this is a gross waste of taxpayer funds with an estimated cost to be around 36billion. If it's anything like all the other government stuff ups like pink batts, BER etc.  Then I'd expect the cost to be probably 100 billion by the time it's finished.

... But hopefully the coalition government will be in charge and they can hopefully clean up the mess.

[mightytiges]

The NBN is going well with only 1 in 9 people connecting.
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/ultra-fast-nbn-has-sluggish-take-up-with-only-one-in-nine-connected/story-e6frgakx-1226199546472

this is a gross waste of taxpayer funds with an estimated cost to be around 36billion. If it's anything like all the other government stuff ups like pink batts, BER etc.  Then I'd expect the cost to be probably 100 billion by the time it's finished.

... But hopefully the coalition government will be in charge and they can hopefully clean up the mess.

News Limited and the Australian in particular once again deliberately presenting misleading info  .

Firstly NBN Co. didn't launch its commercial services on its networks until October last year (the Australian article was published just a month later) and those networks have so far only been rolled out to a fraction of the total population. Secondly most of the network numbers the Coalition and subsequently their News Limited and radio shockjock cheer squads quote include so-called Greenfields Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) networks which are mostly networks built by other companies and used by NBN Co. When you actually look at NBN rollout schedule on their own fibre infrastructure (Brownfields) freely available on the net (Page 15 of the link: http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/nbn-co-3-year-gbe-corporate-plan-final-17-dec-10.pdf ) you'll see they are on schedule. It won't be until June 2013 that we'll be able to first judge NBN Co. when it has planned to have signed up several hundred thousand active customers.

The NBN was originally estimated to cost $43b. It's now estimated at $36.5b. It will be a government asset that will return money when it's all finished. You know Governments are allowed to build essential infrastructure and have built most of the existing essential infrastructure we have. Of course the Libs nowdays don't believe in that. They just sell Government assets off while taxing us more to hand out more middle class welfare. Look at Abbott cry over people on $250k+ per annum rightly no longer receiving taxpayer funded health insurance rebates .

[mightytiges]

I repeat for the 1 millionth time that climate change in the context in which the greenies paint climate change is nothing more than a scam. Where are all the greenies now with the earth is getting warmer garbage with half or Europe under snow and large tracts of Australia flooded. The climate has been changing since the begining of time, sometimes its hot sometimes its cold, sometimes it doesnt rain for a while and then you get floods. Thats how it works. So I repeat for the last time Climate Change in the context of how the greenies paint it is nothing but a dishonest scam that socialist governments are backing because they wanna carbon tax their communities. ITS ALL A RORT!

That's right, they made it up just so they could introduce a nice new big tax.

 

It's all a conspiracy theory to the anti-science religious-nutty neo-cons  .

Ramps you mention climate change in a Greens context. Saying it like that seems a way to ignore climate change from a science context which has been studied for decades (CO2 in the atmosphere as far back as 1896) and global warming has been discussed since the late 1950s/early 1960s and has a whole stack of empirical evidence to support it. Also sure climate has always changed since long ago but we are discussing and measuring/quantifying the rate and magnitude of climate change. It's the latter that has altered rapidly over the past 150 years and measurably linked to our use of fossil fuels.

[1965]

I repeat for the 1 millionth time that climate change in the context in which the greenies paint climate change is nothing more than a scam. Where are all the greenies now with the earth is getting warmer garbage with half or Europe under snow and large tracts of Australia flooded. The climate has been changing since the begining of time, sometimes its hot sometimes its cold, sometimes it doesnt rain for a while and then you get floods. Thats how it works. So I repeat for the last time Climate Change in the context of how the greenies paint it is nothing but a dishonest scam that socialist governments are backing because they wanna carbon tax their communities. ITS ALL A RORT!

That's right, they made it up just so they could introduce a nice new big tax.

 

It's all a conspiracy theory to the anti-science religious-nutty neo-cons  .

I was being sarcastic.

 

[mightytiges]

I ask anyone to show empirical evidence that the world is warming.
From all the so called experts and their computer modelling they didn't expect all the rain & snow. Now that have to come up with another so called theory as to why the last decade has been so cold because the computers didn't tell them it was going to happen. 
And let's not mention maybe this sort of thing happens every so many years. It gets really hot & then it gets really cold like in the seventies when the scare then was another ice age was coming but Im sure they'll come up with an excuse for that too. 
I reckon these experts of global warming theory should unplug their computers & go back to the drawing board. But they mightn't get the government funding just ask Tim Flannery.

The trend is still heading upwards  . The past decade has been the warmest on record with 2010 the highest.


http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/

Of course those in denial will always cherry pick any two data points on a graph to suit their "cooling" argument even though statistically it is meaningless and flawed


By the way weather and climate are not the same things.

Local weather conditions don't reflect global climate conditions.

The oceans are continuing to accrue heat. Remember how I said it was all about increasing thermal energy in the Earth's system.
http://www.agu.org/journals/gl/gl1118/2011GL048794/2011GL048794.pdf

The denialist myth about the majority of 70s climate scientists claiming the next ice age was nigh was debunked long ago as the myth is based only on Star Trek's Leonard Nimoy's old tv series . Just as claiming global warming is based on computer modelling and not empirical evidence is another BS denialist claim. Regurgitating crap from Bolt and co. that has been debunked numerous times before including previously in this thread does you no favours Tigra.

[mightytiges]

I repeat for the 1 millionth time that climate change in the context in which the greenies paint climate change is nothing more than a scam. Where are all the greenies now with the earth is getting warmer garbage with half or Europe under snow and large tracts of Australia flooded. The climate has been changing since the begining of time, sometimes its hot sometimes its cold, sometimes it doesnt rain for a while and then you get floods. Thats how it works. So I repeat for the last time Climate Change in the context of how the greenies paint it is nothing but a dishonest scam that socialist governments are backing because they wanna carbon tax their communities. ITS ALL A RORT!

That's right, they made it up just so they could introduce a nice new big tax.

 

It's all a conspiracy theory to the anti-science religious-nutty neo-cons  .

I was being sarcastic.

 

So was I 

[Dubstep Dookie]

ive heard enough

the party is the laughing stock of the nation. FACT

I hope Turnbull makes a play for PM as then we would see the worst defeat in history. Even with Abbott the defeat will be big

Absolutely 100% agree with this.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Kevin '07 was the saviour of all of australia's ills but was ousted because his own party said he was hopeless.
The party told us that one of the julia's (Im still not sure if it's the real one) was the best person to lead them moving forward. But in her speach she told us how great Kevin '07 was.
Now it looks like this great party might have changed it's mind & wants to tell us that maybe Rudd was the best person to lead them maybe because they installed the wrong Julia.

It's only a matter of time now that the house comes crashing down.

What a complete joke this party is!

[1965]

Kevin '07 was the saviour of all of australia's ills but was ousted because his own party said he was hopeless.
The party told us that one of the julia's (Im still not sure if it's the real one) was the best person to lead them moving forward. But in her speach she told us how great Kevin '07 was.
Now it looks like this great party might have changed it's mind & wants to tell us that maybe Rudd was the best person to lead them maybe because they installed the wrong Julia.

It's only a matter of time now that the house comes crashing down.

What a complete joke this party is!

Increasingly it is looking like we will need to suffer Abbott before the morons who vote for him come to their senses.

Oh well at least I will be better off financially, stuff the poor and the pensionerss and the workers can go get stuffed as well.

 

'65

[1965]

I thought Abbott said that the Carbon Tax would mean the death of the coal industry?

Carbon tax fails to slow coal boom


The impending carbon price has done nothing to deter investment in the coal industry, with spending on exploration surging faster than any other mineral commodity.

Coal exploration spending in Australia leapt by 62 per cent last financial year as the industry dominated corporate activity in terms of both inbound investment and mergers and acquisitions.

Investment in searches for new coal deposits reached $520 million, pushing it closer to rivalling iron ore and gold - both of which also grew significantly on the back of record high commodity prices.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/carbon-tax-fails-to-slow-coal-boom-20120219-1th5v.html#ixzz1msbob0hl

[Tigeritis™©®]

Kevin '07 was the saviour of all of australia's ills but was ousted because his own party said he was hopeless.
The party told us that one of the julia's (Im still not sure if it's the real one) was the best person to lead them moving forward. But in her speach she told us how great Kevin '07 was.
Now it looks like this great party might have changed it's mind & wants to tell us that maybe Rudd was the best person to lead them maybe because they installed the wrong Julia.

It's only a matter of time now that the house comes crashing down.

What a complete joke this party is!

Increasingly it is looking like we will need to suffer Abbott before the morons who vote for him come to their senses.

Oh well at least I will be better off financially, stuff the poor and the pensionerss and the workers can go get stuffed as well.

 

'65

oh yes & the poor & the workers & the pensioners are all swimming in money now are they?
Or maybe we should all vote greens & see Australia fall into complete disaster.

Just a thought. Maybe this whole challenge to Julia is just another way labor can get someone else other than Kevin '07 or Julia into the leadership (ie bill shorten) without looking like they made a mistake the first time. 
I wouldn't put anything past this joke of a party. The only thing worse would be the greens trying to run this country. God forbid.