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« Reply #3000 on: January 06, 2015, 01:19:10 PM »
Campbell Newman has called a snap election and Queenslanders are off to the polls on Jan. 31.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-election-voters-go-to-polls-on-january-31-20150106-12ikdn.html

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« Reply #3001 on: January 06, 2015, 09:35:20 PM »
the NT has fixed terms and that IMO is the way to go. none of this BS about timing your elections to suit yourself  and going into quasi election mode before a date is et.
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« Reply #3002 on: January 06, 2015, 09:47:08 PM »
Agree Al.

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« Reply #3003 on: January 07, 2015, 01:22:01 PM »
the NT has fixed terms and that IMO is the way to go. none of this BS about timing your elections to suit yourself  and going into quasi election mode before a date is et.
Thankfully we now have fixed 4 year terms here in Victoria.

Newman has only gone early because the latest Qld newspoll now has both sides at 50/50 and he doesn't want to be facing an election just after another unpopular Abbott/Hockey budget like Napthine did.
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« Reply #3004 on: January 07, 2015, 10:09:01 PM »
I think campbell newman took inspiration for his snap election from this clip.  ;D

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« Reply #3005 on: January 20, 2015, 05:54:38 AM »
Either Joe Hockey is a complete idiot or he is deliberately lying to us.

Take your pick.

Joe Hockey repeats incorrect claim that half of people's income goes on taxes

The treasurer, Joe Hockey, has again said Australians work six months of the year for the government – a claim that is untrue since the top marginal tax rate of 45 cents in the dollar cuts in only for earnings over $180,000.

Hockey said in an interview on Melbourne’s 3AW: “I want to give families a bit of a break with cost of living and that’s certainly Tony Abbott’s very strong view. We should put more money into the pockets of Australians. It’s their money. When Australians spend the first six months of the year working for the government with tax rates nearly 50 cents in the dollar, it’s a disincentive.”

“You’re working July, August, September, October, November, December just for the government and then you start working for yourself and your own household income after that for another six months, it is a disincentive, so we’ve got to bear that in mind. We’ve got to bear in mind that bracket creep is going to take middle-income Australians into the second-highest tax bracket over the next few years, which is a disincentive for people to work,” he said.

The 2% Medicare levy and the 2% budget repair levy do bring the marginal tax rate for high income earners to 49 cents in the dollar, with the temporary budget repair levy also cutting at for incomes over $180,000.

But 49 cents in the dollar is the marginal tax rate for high income earners – paid only on earnings over $180,000, not the average tax rate.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/19/joe-hockey-repeats-incorrect-claim-that-half-of-peoples-income-goes-on-taxes

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« Reply #3006 on: January 20, 2015, 07:14:02 AM »
Anyone know what's happening with the eastwest link tunnel contract? Lol

Just curious
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« Reply #3007 on: January 20, 2015, 07:16:19 AM »

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« Reply #3008 on: January 21, 2015, 08:44:08 AM »
You don't say?

Labor doing what they do best.

A lazy bill here another halfa bil over there with the tab compo. Dans off to a flyer should see him out of the top job soon at this rate

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« Reply #3009 on: January 21, 2015, 09:57:48 AM »
You don't say?

Labor doing what they do best.

A lazy bill here another halfa bil over there with the tab compo. Dans off to a flyer should see him out of the top job soon at this rate

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and how is one-term Tony going?


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« Reply #3010 on: January 21, 2015, 10:00:24 AM »

Tony is an economic illiterate.

Low 10-year bond rates are the deal of the century but Abbott's not at the table

Who'd say no to the deal of a lifetime? Tony Abbott would, and it's our tragedy.

The 10-year bond rate is the rate at which the government can borrow for 10 years at a fixed rate of interest. Right now it's just 2.55 per cent, an all-time low.

It’s rare to be offered money for nothing. All we would need is confidence in the worth of our ideas. 

By way of comparison in the 1970s it exceeded 10 per cent, in the 1980s it passed 16 per cent, in the 1990s it passed 10 per cent, in the 2000s 5 per cent, and until now in this decade it has usually been above 3 per cent. It dived below 3 per cent at the end of last year and is now just 2.55 per cent, the lowest in living memory.

If Australia was to borrow, big time, for important projects that took the best part of a decade to complete, it would have no risk of ever having to fork out more than 2.55 per cent a year in interest. The record low rate would be locked in for 10 years.

Australia's inflation rate is currently 2.3 per cent. Although it will almost certainly fall in the wake of the collapse in oil prices when it is updated next week, the Reserve Bank has a mandate to keep the rate centred at about 2.5 per cent. That means that right now our government is being offered billions for next to nothing, billions for scarcely more than the expected rate of inflation.

If Abbott was the chief executive of a company with good prospects he'd grab the money and borrow as many billions as he could without impairing his credit rating.

In Australia's case that's probably an extra $100 billion. That's enough to build the long-awaited Brisbane to Sydney to Melbourne high-speed rail line, or to build Labor's original national broadband network, or Sydney's $11 billion WestConnex road project plus Melbourne's $11 billion metro rail project plus Melbourne's $16 billion East West Link plus something big in each of the other states.

And it would cost next to nothing. All each of these projects would need is a positive real rate of return (which several of those listed above lack) and we would get ahead.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/low-10year-bond-rates-are-the-deal-of-the-century-but-abbotts-not-at-the-table-20150120-12tq4j.html


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« Reply #3011 on: January 21, 2015, 02:32:35 PM »
Nice deflection.

Tony and Dan are both finished if they continue on at this rate, buy then again a bill ain't much to tear up so Dan might survive.  :cheers



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« Reply #3012 on: January 21, 2015, 05:02:07 PM »
Nice deflection.

Tony and Dan are both finished if they continue on at this rate, buy then again a bill ain't much to tear up so Dan might survive.  :cheers

Dan Andrews has got four years, Tony Abbott has got less than two years and Campbell Newman has got 10 days.

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« Reply #3013 on: January 22, 2015, 06:25:45 PM »
Nice deflection.

Tony and Dan are both finished if they continue on at this rate, buy then again a bill ain't much to tear up so Dan might survive.  :cheers

Dan Andrews has got four years, Tony Abbott has got less than two years and Campbell Newman has got 10 days.

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Word is Tony has three months or else.

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« Reply #3014 on: January 23, 2015, 08:03:24 AM »
Funny that, thought he was the boss. Might be half the issue, perhaps he should be letting those who are challenging him to come up with some solutions in a month or they are out. Covers both bases :santa
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.