ANZAC Day - Lest We Forget

[WilliamPowell]

Went to the Dawn Service at The Shrine this morning.

When we got there about 5.15am didn't seem to be that many there. When it was finished and the sun had come up and you could see the crowd I was genuinely staggered by the size.

Have to say the Governor nailed her speech it was brilliant 

[mightytiges]

Hope all the diggers have a great day.

Lest We Forget

[Damo]

We will remember them

[WilliamPowell]

Huge numbers today at the dawn service

Will admit I was generally surprised by the crowd.

Special one today, powerful words from all speakers.

Best "Welcome to Country" I've heard.

[mightytiges]

Glad it stayed dry today for everyone. Hope all the diggers had a good day.

[mightytiges]

Hope all the diggers had a good day today.

Crowd numbers seemed to be as large as ever.

Watching the march today made me think back to when I was a kid and there were older WW1 diggers and middle-aged WW2 & Korean vets marching. Now they are all gone. It's now Vietnam vets who are the older ones. More important than ever to remember them all and be thankful.

Lest We Forget

[WilliamPowell]

Great numbers at this morning's Dawn Service at the Shrine

All I will say about the today's protesters is the service is not the time of place do what they did, total disrespect

I don't care if I get whacked for saying it. Today is a incredibly significant day for my family, to have a small group of people disrupt it for their political / ideological gain and 15 mins of fame was pathetic

[Diocletian]

Great numbers at this morning's Dawn Service at the Shrine

All I will say about the today's protesters is the service is not the time of place do what they did, total disrespect

I don't care if I get whacked for saying it. Today is a incredibly significant day for my family, to have a small group of people disrupt it for their political / ideological gain and 15 mins of fame was pathetic

I don't reckon anyone thought it was the appropriate time regardless of what they think about the issue.

[WilliamPowell]

Great numbers at this morning's Dawn Service at the Shrine

All I will say about the today's protesters is the service is not the time of place do what they did, total disrespect

I don't care if I get whacked for saying it. Today is a incredibly significant day for my family, to have a small group of people disrupt it for their political / ideological gain and 15 mins of fame was pathetic

I don't reckon anyone thought it was the appropriate time regardless of what they think about the issue.

 

[Chuck17]

It wasnt the right time but this welcome to country bs has to end

[Francois Jackson]

agree Chuck it has to end.. I went back and had a look which government is to blame for this bs, and i actually cant pin point it.

Both are pathetic. The LNP have never tried to stop it. I bet if our stupid PM included it in the voice it would have also delivered a resounding No.

It was not the right time though. Def not.

Lastly, i wonder how much these guys are paid to deliver that BS every time 

[WilliamPowell]

agree Chuck it has to end.. I went back and had a look which government is to blame for this bs, and i actually cant pin point it.

Both are pathetic. The LNP have never tried to stop it. I bet if our stupid PM included it in the voice it would have also delivered a resounding No.

It was not the right time though. Def not.

Lastly, i wonder how much these guys are paid to deliver that BS every time 

I don't want to get in an argument with you over this

But just on your last point asking "how much these guys get paid"?

I am assuming you are talking about the indigenous leaders who do the welcome to country? From what I've been told by my friends who happen to be indigenous, absolutely nothing, not a cent.

[Francois Jackson]

agree Chuck it has to end.. I went back and had a look which government is to blame for this bs, and i actually cant pin point it.

Both are pathetic. The LNP have never tried to stop it. I bet if our stupid PM included it in the voice it would have also delivered a resounding No.

It was not the right time though. Def not.

Lastly, i wonder how much these guys are paid to deliver that BS every time 

I don't want to get in an argument with you over this

But just on your last point asking "how much these guys get paid"?

I am assuming you are talking about the indigenous leaders who do the welcome to country? From what I've been told by my friends who happen to be indigenous, absolutely nothing, not a cent.

who said anything about arguing. You think they do it for free and i dont. I would be betting them i am right based on simple google searches and government sites.

I happen to know one myself and he said absolutely they do. He also thinks its a load of bs. Some do some dont thats life.

i found this on our state site. There are plenty of reports and im sure even government reports set aside funds for this.

Elders should be paid or otherwise remunerated for their cultural knowledge and authority within their community for conducting the Welcome.

https://www2.education.vic.gov.au/pal/acknowledgement-traditional-owners-and-welcome-country-schools/policy

My guess is $5000 per ceremony and for dreamtime, larger events double it. No wonder they are jumping over themselves to conduct this bs. Who can blame them, not me.

[WilliamPowell]

who said anything about arguing.

I mentioned arguing because ive found in most cases when I reply to your posts your normal method of response is to belittle or abuse when i challenge or disagree with you. Not prepared to do that in this case.

Why? Because I will not be getting in to any form of ongoing debate on the "Welcome to Country" topic. I have a view based on what I've learnt from my wonderful friends who taught me what it means, and its significance and it's not what most think.

And more importantly I don't want to see the the main purpose of this thread being diminished by it getting side tracked by another political discussion.

This is OERs ANZAC day thread.