I think most of us agree on that bt, problem wasn't getting these guys, was a good move imo, but the fact we're still going down that path and playing these guys ahead of kids that should be going past them is an indictment.
Conca and Ellis would be playing in Hawthorns team imo, Ellis especially, they'd love his run/kicking skills and would find the perfect outside role for him. As for the rest of them, well theyre not even good enough to play in our side according to our coaches so no hope for the hawks. Just not good enough
Ellis and Conca getting a game in front of who? Both are lucky to be in our side on their starts to the year.
More delusional than Dimma. 
In your opinion... it looks to me as though you are judging form not talent/skill. Yeah form is pretty putrid right now, but that's temporary. Personally I think they'd comfortably get in the hawks side in front of a couple of their fresh faced youngsters. Ellis more so than Conca right now bc of what he brings. They'd utilise his kicking skills and elite running immediately. Concs would have a harder time breaking into the midfield but they shown they will move Mitchell to a HBF and drop sewell to give the young guys coming through a chance to develop with senior players supporting them.
To be honest I don't think either are very skillful. Conca more so than Ellis but I'd play Conca ahead of Ellis everyday of the week. Both fumble way to much and both foot skills are hidden by the way they both play. Reece gets it onto his boot anyway he can to go forward and Ellis short passes it sideways and backwards most of the time or down the line to a contest. I'm not just saying this from this year either, I felt the same since they both started.
I know people see Ellis get 25 touches and think he is making a difference but I ask you to take a really hard look at what he does with them. Just my opinion but until the weekend people were starting to see what I have for two years. The mates that I go with have all jumped off this year after thinking I had been to harsh.
Anyway I know most don't agree and that's fine, we don't all have to think the same. 
That's true, that's the beauty of this game, we all see it differently and have different criteria on what we expect and want. Form aside:
Concas problem and the one concerning area for me is his kicking, his ball drop is atrocious, hence why we occasionally see a shane Edwards type shank. He may have been fumbly early on but I purposely commented in concas thread at halftime on sunday bc I watched for his fumbling and didn't see it once, I personally don't see it as an issue and think it was more related to confidence.
Ellis does kick it sideways way too often (much like Heppell
) but I think he has great footskills just too scared to use them. I also think Ellis needs to work on his speed more, has great endurance but he needs to be quicker as an outside player to be able to break lines and give himself a better chance to utilise his kicking. I am now seeing his aversion to physical punishment on field, sometimes wont go which is concerning. Neither are perfect, but I'm backing them in to become very good players at this stage.
