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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2016, 08:24:10 PM »
Yep get him for season 2018, important to plan that far out

Don't let the fact he is contracted for 2017 to the Dee's and hell would most likely need to freeze over b4 they trade him get in the way of planning for 2018 answer beyond

Nothing else to deal with right  now I'm pretty sure

Would have thought it's pretty clear these days that contracts mean nothing. It's hardly a default position to argue

Yeah tell that to GWS and McCarthy
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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2016, 10:26:33 PM »
Yep get him for season 2018, important to plan that far out

Don't let the fact he is contracted for 2017 to the Dee's and hell would most likely need to freeze over b4 they trade him get in the way of planning for 2018 answer beyond

Nothing else to deal with right  now I'm pretty sure

Would have thought it's pretty clear these days that contracts mean nothing. It's hardly a default position to argue

Yeah tell that to GWS and McCarthy

Last time I checked GWS refused to trade McCarthy and he is still on their list as a contracted player

My point exactly WP.

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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2016, 09:49:17 AM »
Yep get him for season 2018, important to plan that far out

Don't let the fact he is contracted for 2017 to the Dee's and hell would most likely need to freeze over b4 they trade him get in the way of planning for 2018 answer beyond

Nothing else to deal with right  now I'm pretty sure



Would have thought it's pretty clear these days that contracts mean nothing. It's hardly a default position to argue

Yeah tell that to GWS and McCarthy

Last time I checked GWS refused to trade McCarthy and he is still on their list as a contracted player

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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2016, 10:31:16 AM »
Yep get him for season 2018, important to plan that far out

Don't let the fact he is contracted for 2017 to the Dee's and hell would most likely need to freeze over b4 they trade him get in the way of planning for 2018 answer beyond

Nothing else to deal with right  now I'm pretty sure



Would have thought it's pretty clear these days that contracts mean nothing. It's hardly a default position to argue

Yeah tell that to GWS and McCarthy

Last time I checked GWS refused to trade McCarthy and he is still on their list as a contracted player

Training with east freo ...

And your point is what exactly?

Yes he is going to train with the WAFL Bulldogs which he has been given permission to do by his AFL club GWS

He wont' be playing for them, just training

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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2016, 11:31:09 AM »
Where do you predict he will play next year?
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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2016, 01:21:30 PM »
Where do you predict he will play next year?

I actually don't think he will play again for anyone

He is contracted to GWS until the end of 2017 so unless they relent and trade him he will remain a GWS until the end of his contract

And NO if I was GWS I wouldn't trade him either



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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2016, 05:51:23 PM »
Where do you predict he will play next year?

I actually don't think he will play again for anyone

He is contracted to GWS until the end of 2017 so unless they relent and trade him he will remain a GWS until the end of his contract

And NO if I was GWS I wouldn't trade him either
So you wouldn't trade him and get something for him? Even if he refused to play for you? It's ok to prove a point for a year but if it's going to hurt your club they should do a trade and potentially get a very good pick for him IMO. Or a decent player.
Would you be happy to get nothing for Titch Edwards if he was deadset keen on returning to SA? Or would you try to broker a deal and at least have a say in what you get in return.
IMO AFL footy has changed and if players want to leave for whatever reason and you have done everything in your power to try and change their minds and failed, then do the best you can on the return deal. No point cutting off your nose despite your face.

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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2016, 06:18:58 PM »
Where do you predict he will play next year?

I actually don't think he will play again for anyone

He is contracted to GWS until the end of 2017 so unless they relent and trade him he will remain a GWS until the end of his contract

And NO if I was GWS I wouldn't trade him either
So you wouldn't trade him and get something for him? Even if he refused to play for you? It's ok to prove a point for a year but if it's going to hurt your club they should do a trade and potentially get a very good pick for him IMO. Or a decent player.
Would you be happy to get nothing for Titch Edwards if he was deadset keen on returning to SA? Or would you try to broker a deal and at least have a say in what you get in return.
IMO AFL footy has changed and if players want to leave for whatever reason and you have done everything in your power to try and change their minds and failed, then do the best you can on the return deal. No point cutting off your nose despite your face.

Yep. I'm not sure 'taking a stand' with this endears yourself to the rest of the playing group either. Seems almost juvenile for mine. If it was apparent at trade time last year that it was unlikely he'd play for them again they've done themselves a disservice by not getting something in return. Pragmatism over pride.

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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2016, 07:39:37 PM »
The player must take responsibility as he had just signed a 2 tear contract. If he wanted to go, why sign on for 2 years?
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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2016, 07:58:14 PM »
The player must take responsibility as he had just signed a 2 tear contract. If he wanted to go, why sign on for 2 years?
Things change and situations change. And kids can change their minds. I'm sure you did when you were 20.
Why keep a player that doesn't want to be there? Get something for him and move on IMO.

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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2016, 08:10:21 PM »
I'm not sure I'd grab Hogan as you'd have to pay overs and his kicking isn't that great.  He could be the next Richo, great mark out of bounds on the full form 15m out type player.

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Re: BigFish
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2016, 06:46:06 AM »
No wonder no one wants to come to this rabble, we will struggle to get anyone at the end of the season, unless its a nobody no one wants.

We will also struggle to hang on to Martin next time I think.
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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2016, 12:20:39 PM »
...and good luck getting Rance to put off his world trip next time....
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Re: BigFish JHogan
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2016, 12:38:29 PM »
While Hogan is ok we really need a beet er midfield and defense. Spend picks on a Chapman replacement and another fast mid.