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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #150 on: July 03, 2021, 06:55:03 PM »
Five trade targets for EVERY club: Richmond

What will the Tigers do in the trade period to keep their success coming?

By Benjamin Millard
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3 July 2021


Richmond have been well below where they expected to be in season 2021, not measuring up to the extremely lofty standards set by their success in recent years.

The truth is that Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt and other ageing stars aren’t going to be around forever and sooner or later Damien Hardwick will have to start looking for new blood.

The idea of these stories is to identify potentially gettable targets who could fill roles, not just link every club to superstars, the likes of Marcus Bontempelli or Patrick Cripps.

In no particular order, here are five players which the Richmond recruitment team would do well to target and potentially poach.

1. Patrick LIPINSKI

NUMBER   27
POSITION   Midfield
WEIGHT   84 kg
HEIGHT   187 cm (6 ft 2 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   17/07/1998 (22 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Eltham (Vic)/Northern U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

2021 SEASON AVG:
16 Disposals
2.3 Tackles
1.4 Clearances

One of multiple Doggies players on this list, Patrick Lipinski would be a great deal for the Tigers to try and push through.

The wingman is industrious and has been in good form when he has been given the opportunity by Luke Beveridge.

The reality is however is that the Bulldogs have the best midfield in the competition as it stands, and for the 22-year-old to try and force himself into it would be a mammoth task.

This has lead to him spending a lot of time in the VFL, only playing nine games in 2021 so far.

With his contract out at the end of season 2021, the midfielder is the subject of intense interest from other clubs, and Richmond would likely be keeping their ear to the ground on the matter.

If he was to make the switch to Punt Road, then expect for him to go in on the wing and take over from Marlion Pickett should his form falter at any point.


2. Ed RICHARDS

NUMBER   20
POSITION   Midfield / Forward
WEIGHT   79 kg
HEIGHT   185 cm (6 ft 1 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   03/07/1999 (22 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Hawthorn Citizens (Vic)/Carey Grammar (Vic)/Oakleigh U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

ROUND 15 2021 STATS:
16 Disposals
3 Tackles
5 Marks

This pacey defender/midfielder hybrid is on a number of team’s hitlists this trade period, with the 21-year-old impressing in the 59 games he’s had at AFL level.

Richards had his first game back from a fractured fibula in Round 15 against the Eagles, spending most of his time on the half-back line and chipping in with his 16 disposals.

Despite this, he is able to drift across the half-forward and hurt teams that way with his blistering speed. With this, he could potentially slot into multiple spaces within Richmond’s best-22.

His inclusion on the weekend has shown the value that he brings to Luke Beveridge‘s side and it will take a huge offer to pry him away from Whitten Oval.

Despite the Tigers not having a huge salary cap available, it would be worth putting the feelers out and seeing what the Doggies have to say.


3. Mitch WALLIS

NUMBER   3
POSITION   Forward
WEIGHT   85 kg
HEIGHT   186 cm (6 ft 1 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   24/10/1992 (28 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   St Bernard's (Vic)/Calder U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

2021 SEASON AVG:
10.3 Disposals
1.3 Tackles

The third and final Dogs player on this list is Mitch Wallis, who has been out of favour in 2021 despite his impressive form in 2020.

The forward has only featured on four occasions for Luke Beveridge‘s side during this season and has failed to nail down a regular spot in a side that is steaming towards a home qualifying final position.

Despite this, there is no doubting the quality that he can bring to the table on his day. The 28-year-old managed 25 goals in his 18 appearances in a stunted season 2020 and was one of the key factors behind their finals appearance.

For the Tigers, he would be great across the forward-line to complement Riewoldt and Lynch when others around them such as Jason Castagna, Daniel Rioli or Jake Aarts maybe aren’t firing as well as they could.

Wallis becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season, meaning that he is able to choose where he plies his trade for season 2022.

It would be wise for the Tigers to put a contract on the table and bring Wallis to Punt Road at season’s end.


4. Adam CERRA

NUMBER   5
POSITION   Midfield
WEIGHT   84 kg
HEIGHT   188 cm (6 ft 2 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   07/10/1999 (21 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Norwood (Vic)/Wesley College (Vic)/Eastern U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

2021 SEASON AVG
21.7 Disposals
2.3 Tackles
3.3 Clearances

The big target that the Tigers are linked with for trade period 2021 is the gun Dockers midfielder Adam Cerra.

The 21-year-old has been linked with almost all sides in Victoria as he signaled his intent to move back home.

Cerra hasn’t been putting up huge numbers in season 2021, with arguably his best performance being against Sydney in Round 10 where he racked up 25 touches and a goal in a two-point win for his side.

However the sad truth for the Tigers is that captain Trent Cotchin isn’t getting any younger, nor is Dusty, Prestia or Shane Edwards, so the time might be now to go and secure the next generation of Tigers.

Getting Cerra could be the beginning of a new era at Punt Road, and with other youngsters coming through such as Chol, Coleman-Jones and Collier-Dawkins, it could be a bright future at Tigerland.


5. Harry PERRYMAN

NUMBER   36
POSITION   Defender / Midfield
WEIGHT   80 kg
HEIGHT   184 cm (6 ft 0 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   19/12/1998 (22 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Collingullie-Glenfield Park (NSW)/NSW-ACT U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2022

2021 SEASON AVG
22.8 Disposals
5.4 Marks
4.8 Rebound50s

Giant Harry Perryman is a force to be reckoned with down back for Leon Cameron‘s side. The 22-year-old has been solid as a rock in the GWS rearguard for the last few years and earned himself a new two-year contract last year.

His 2021 form has been outstanding as well despite sustaining injuries which have kept him out of just under half of all games this year.

Perryman is averaging 2.1 intercept marks, 22.8 disposals and 423.3 metres gained per match, all above average numbers for a defender and showing he is able to help his team build from the back, something the Tigers enjoy doing.

Although a move could be unlikely this trade period, the Tigers should definitely attempt to secure the defender in the future, with his ability to win the ball an asset to any side he plays in.

https://www.zerohanger.com/five-trade-targets-for-every-club-richmond-86033/5/

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #151 on: July 03, 2021, 06:59:05 PM »
Hawks legend Jordan Lewis advises Tigers not to chase Docker Adam Cerra

Ed Carmine
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July 3, 2021


Four-time premiership Hawk Jordan Lewis has stated that Richmond should not be pursuing the signature of out-of-contract Fremantle midfielder Adam Cerra, with the one-time All Australian holding the view that the reigning premiers should instead set their sights on the draft.

Following Thursday night’s final-siren that saw the Tigers fall short of the rising Suns by 10-points at Marvel Stadium, Herald Sun journalist Sam Landsberger tweeted that the Punt Road club currently held the 11th, 14th, 26th and 30th selections for this year’s talent pool.

Although their entry point is subject to change, Richmond will hold a pair of first round picks – unless they part with them to land Cerra.

Speaking on SEN’s AFL Nation last night, Lewis urged those at Tigerland not to sell the farm to secure the 21-year-old Victorian.

“I’d be staggered if they gave up their top picks in the draft,” he said

“I don’t think you need trade out players (and picks) out to get an Adam Cerra in, the draft pick that you might pick might be just as good but you don’t need to pay the money you’ll have to pay Cerra to come in.”

The 319-gamer pointed to the successes of a pair of current Demons as to why the Tigers should be on the prowl for draftees rather than Cerra.

“If there’s a Kossie Pickett or Luke Jackson in this draft that can come in and have an impact…that’s the decision they’ll have to make at the end of the year,” Lewis said.

“I certainly don’t think their successful period is done and dusted and don’t think it’s a bad thing if they miss finals this year, (it would) create a little bit of hunger and (they would) get a chunk of time off to see other teams playing finals when they should be playing.”

Cerra, a former first round draftee himself, has long been linked with numerous Victorian clubs – including Richmond – after his recent decision not to ink a new deal with the Dockers.

The Eastern Ranges product has 69-games for Fremantle since debuting in Round 2 of 2018 and holds career averages of 16.4-disposals, three tackles and 1.7 clearances across them.

https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-hawks-legends-advises-tigers-not-to-chase-docker-86235/

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #152 on: July 03, 2021, 08:24:36 PM »
Think we all agree with Lewis on this one

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #153 on: July 03, 2021, 08:34:38 PM »
yep.

yes to greene from the gws and a big no to cerra
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #154 on: July 03, 2021, 08:53:56 PM »
Would like both but if was came down to just one then it's Green by the length of Bass Strait over Cerra or pretty much any other player in the AFL for that matter.....mind you I'm also fairly confident that we'll get Green at some point in the not too distant future if not this year.. :shh.
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #155 on: July 03, 2021, 08:59:48 PM »
not that it matters these days but is he out of contract at the end of this year?

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #156 on: July 03, 2021, 09:07:54 PM »
End of 2023 I think - so would take some doing to get him before then but the pull of Punt Road is strong -as you well know he's not just some kid who "grew up supporting Richmond" like Cerra, he's Royal Tiger blood.... :shh
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2021, 12:06:39 AM »
Perryman is a gun too
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2021, 10:05:29 AM »
Not a player, but would love to see Luke Hodge somewhere in our coaching staff

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2021, 11:21:50 AM »
Not a player, but would love to see Luke Hodge somewhere in our coaching staff

Yes.

Start looking beyond the Hardwick years. No point in creating a Sheedy Essendon situation. Bring in Hodge give him tbe senior gig in 3 years.

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #160 on: July 04, 2021, 11:23:53 AM »
Use McIntosh and Second round pick to get Cerra. Might take the Geelong first but aim would be a sceond.

Trade in Lipinski for a second and we have an upgrade for McIntosh's wing

Trade out Caddy for a late second early 3rd

Swap CCJ to GWS for Green

Use first two picks in the draft on talls

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #161 on: July 04, 2021, 11:56:43 AM »
Use McIntosh and Second round pick to get Cerra. Might take the Geelong first but aim would be a sceond.

Trade in Lipinski for a second and we have an upgrade for McIntosh's wing

Trade out Caddy for a late second early 3rd

Swap CCJ to GWS for Green

Use first two picks in the draft on talls

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
1- McIntosh and second for Cerra … dreaming
2- CCJ for Green … dreaming
3- Caddy for late second, early third … dreaming

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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #162 on: July 04, 2021, 12:14:12 PM »
Adam Cerra faces daunting risk vs reward call on possible homecoming

According to his former coach Ross Lyon, Cerra hasn't fully “popped” as a player. While he would be a nice bit of glitter to the current set up, the glitter won't fully disappear if he was to walk. The currency is palpable; the hand Fremantle HQ will either land via draft picks or ready to go tradeable commodities will provide that glitter in buck.

As Lyon eluded to, Cerra hasn't “popped”. He's been considered the long-term Trent Cotchin for the Tigers, who are on the downfall.

Long-term, Cerra will be a magnet synonymous with the centre square. Thus, Cerra has room to fully “pop” and become his own version of the AFL's elite.

Would an immediate arrival to the Tigers in 2022 thwart Cerra's rise? If it were at the Tigers, I'd suggest yes, short-term.

Similarly with a move to the navy blues of Carlton. The pressure is at a premium for a big-time recruit still effectively finding their way​.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-dockers-young-gun-adam-cerra-faces-daunting-risk-or-reward-call-on-possible-homecoming-michael-barlow-c-3298279

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« Reply #163 on: July 04, 2021, 12:29:58 PM »
Not a player, but would love to see Luke Hodge somewhere in our coaching staff

Been saying this since before he even left Hawyhorn... :shh
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Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
« Reply #164 on: July 04, 2021, 02:34:59 PM »
Que Cerra: Why Richmond shouldn’t chase Adam Cerra

Jake Niall
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July 4, 2021


Adam Cerra usually makes the right decision with the ball in his hands. In the coming weeks, he will make the most important call of his career to date when he decides where he’ll play after this season.

Theoretically, he has up to 10 potential options - nine Melbourne clubs, plus sticking with Fremantle. In practice, the choice is much narrower, given the salary cap constraints, specific needs and draft capital of the various clubs.

North Melbourne, for instance, won’t be a bidder for Cerra. Their need is for speed and flair and Cerra, a smooth but not swift mover, doesn’t fit it.

Collingwood can be dismissed, since the Pies don’t have either the salary cap room or a first round draft choice in 2021 that could be spent on Cerra.

The Western Bulldogs already have a stacked midfield and a packed salary cap. Forget them.

Melbourne would need to lose someone to find the salary space to accommodate Cerra, who reportedly will command more than $700,000 from the Dockers; certainly, he won’t be moving for less than $600,000.

St Kilda seems more likely to head to the draft this year after splurging on seasoned recruits in 2019-20. Hawthorn can make a play, but they’d be weighing up whether they want to lose their first pick - likely top 5-6 - at the mid-point of a regeneration that is already showing the first green shoots.

That leaves the following options: Carlton, Essendon and Richmond.

Essendon aren’t committed to either the draft or topping up. Does Cerra fit their needs? Debatable. The biggest holes are key defenders (though Zach Reid might be one) - and probably key forward, despite Harrison Jones’s promise.

The Blues have been interested in Cerra, which isn’t surprising in view of their midfield roll call of Sam Walsh and Patrick Cripps, daylight and then? Ed Curnow maybe, or - if you believe in him - eventually Paddy Dow.

But the most fascinating possibility is the Tigers.

Cerra grew up in a yellow and black household, as a Richmond supporter. I’d guess if that if Jack Riewoldt, Dusty Martin and Trent Cotchin importuned him with tales of Richmond exceptionalism, he’d find it hard not to be impressed.

But if Cerra is as shrewd in his decision-making off the field as on, he’d be wise to sidestep the Richmond option, at least this time.

Richmond, who have one of the premier list managers in Blair Hartley, should do likewise. The Tigers should not be chasing Cerra, either.

On the surface, one can see why a union of Cerra and Richmond may hold appeal to both parties: Cerra, at 187cm, has the bigger body that the Tigers don’t have in abundance.

If they snagged Cerra, could it not give them a young, talented midfielder, who’s completed his apprenticeship, helping extend their premiership window, while the fabled core of the 2017-2021 team are still around?

Maybe. That’s the case for Cerra. The case against chasing him, however, is more compelling.

The history of recent AFL dynasties is that they last about five years before the onset of decline - either gradual or rapid - as stars enter their 30s and the draft’s gravitational force drags the super team down.

The Brisbane Lions fell off the cliff in 2005 after four consecutive grand finals.

But the more relevant comparison for the Tigers is the team coached by Damien Hardwick’s close mate, Alastair Clarkson.

In 2016, Hawthorn bowed out in the second week of the finals to the Bulldogs, ending their bid for a fourth consecutive flag.

Faced with a raft of ageing champs, the Hawks made the bold decision to jettison Jordan Lewis (Melbourne) and Sam Mitchell (West Coast, on coaching sabbatical); the following year, Luke Hodge was retired, only to re-animate in Lion colours.

As these club legends shuffled off, the Hawks struck a remarkable trade heist, acquiring both Jaeger O’Meara from the hapless Gold Coast Suns and Tom Mitchell from the Swans.

Mitchell was cheap in draft cost, just pick 14. O’Meara effectively cost the (future) 2017 first rounder, plus Bradley Hill - a hefty price for a midfielder carrying a major knee injury.

Hawthorn can say, rightly, that Mitchell won a Brownlow and when fit, O’Meara is their best player.

But hindsight suggests that the purchase of O’Meara and Mitchell did not fit Hawthorn’s demographic and rebuild imperatives. Five years on, that pair have spent their prime years at a club that’s not contended once for the premiership, only making finals in 2018.

If they see success, it will be in a Shane Crawford-style twilight.

Cerra should be choosing a team that’s on the crest of a success wave (Tom Lynch and Dion Prestia timed it perfectly), not one that’s ridden the glorious breaker.

The Tigers are better placed than Hawthorn of 2016, yes. They’ve got Shai Bolton (22), Jayden Short (25) and Noah Balta (21), plus the likes of Callum Coleman-Jones and largely unproven youngsters from the drafts of 2018-19 and 2020.

But history and list demographics still suggest that they will find it difficult to remain in flag contention after this year.

Riewoldt and Shane Edwards are 33 this October. Cotchin is 31, Dusty turned 30 last week, Dylan Grimes will be 30 this month. David Astbury is 30 and Bachar Houli, at 33, might be finishing up. Even Lynch and Prestia turn 29 in October. Bolton is the only definite A-grader under 25.

One proviso: recruiting Cerra would be more feasible if Cotchin suddenly retired, or in the improbable scenario of Bolton seeking a trade home to Fremantle.

History’s lesson is clear, though. Teams fallen from the heights of multiple flags don’t defy gravity, and the sooner they invest in the draft - the path the Hawks eschewed in 2016, only to end up in a harsher rebuild four years later - the faster they will see a renaissance.

Ok Geelong did levitate, but they’ve had highly unusual circumstances - one is called Patrick Dangerfield, others called Tom Stewart, Tim Kelly and Jeremy Cameron. Even then, they’ve not won a flag since 2011.

For the first time in a while, the Tigers will enter this post-season with a potent draft hand. Their first choice shapes as proximate to 10-12, and they have Geelong’s first pick, plus St Kilda’s second pick and their own.

The logical play for Richmond is to head to the draft.

Fremantle, moreover, probably won’t accept pick 10-12 for Cerra. They’ll demand either a top 5-6 pick or two first rounders. The Tigers shouldn’t jump at that.

What’s Cerra’s best option? He should be sticking with the Dockers for another two seasons, as they seem on the rise. He will have a better range of options if he wants to leave after 2023, or can extend until free agency (2025).

Que Cerra, Cerra. Wherever he’ll be, he’ll be.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/que-cerra-why-richmond-shouldn-t-chase-adam-cerra-20210703-p586jm.html