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Title: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on March 16, 2021, 03:43:04 PM
Victorian clubs have been alerted to the go-home desire of top-end draft pick Fischer McAsey.

McAsey, the No.6 selection in the 2019 National Draft to the Adelaide Crows, is considered almost certain to request a trade back to his home state at seasons end.

The 196cm key position prospect from Caulfield Grammar hasn’t settled in South Australia and also has personal family reasons for exploring a move to a Melbourne-based club.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/03/15/victorian-clubs-already-circling-top-10-draftee/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on March 16, 2021, 04:28:13 PM
Has he shown any?

Tbh I don't watch Crows games.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on March 16, 2021, 06:47:37 PM
Swap for CCJ I know the Crows are keen on him. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on April 14, 2021, 02:14:50 PM
Blues ‘counter’ Freo’s $3m deal for young gun Adam Cerra

Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
April 14th, 2021


Carlton has reportedly countered Fremantle’s “significant offer” to emerging midfielder Adam Cerra, who remains a high-priority signing for the WA club.

It was widely reported last month Freo had offered the out-of-contract Cerra, 21, a four-year deal to stay at the club until at least the end of 2025.

But Cerra, who’s averaging a career-high 23.5 disposals this season, said days later he was in “no rush” to make a call on his footy future, insisting he wanted to keep his football focus short-term rather than look too far ahead.

Speaking on SEN WA Drive on Tuesday, veteran footy journalist Kim Hagdorn reported the deal the Dockers had tabled was around $3 million, but added the Blues had also lodged their interest.

“I’m hearing that it’s a significant offer,” Hagdorn told SEN WA of Fremantle’s offer.

“Adam Cerra is a primary signing amongst about 20 Fremantle players, including David Mundy, out of contract at the end of this season.

“Adam Cerra has been offered something like about $3 million over four seasons with Fremantle, but it seems as though Carlton have countered that with an offer at close to $3 million – it’s not as good as Fremantle’s offer of $3 million bucks, so $750,000 a year over those four years. Carlton have Adam Cerra in their sights at about $2.7 million, $2.8 million for four years.

“Now, that might depend on if they can wriggle a bit more if Patrick Cripps doesn’t stay with Carlton, for instance – and that’s going to blossom throughout this season.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-adam-cerra-carlton-fremantle-contract-christian-petracca-collingwood/news-story/774053ffef25276861c4e31c9ed9322b
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on April 14, 2021, 05:57:57 PM
Carlton try to get everyone...heard it was between us & Geelong for Cerra with Geelong favourites because they're prepared to offer up Clarke as part of the deal...but then again if Cripps wants to go home.....though you'd think he'd prefer West Coast to Freo if he wants to win a flag soon.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on April 15, 2021, 11:52:15 AM
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/04/14/fremantle-ceo-responds-to-cerra-contract-speculation/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on April 19, 2021, 02:25:53 PM
Griffin Logue looked pretty good for Freo first up after a long lay off....a player I've always thought we should be looking at....not out of contract until the end of next year though... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on April 21, 2021, 11:40:10 PM
Big Footy snout Tiger71 on the Tiger podcast: GWS red hot on CCJ...was implied we want Tom Green in return - said Hardwick loves him (also said we want to hold onto our draft picks)....:shh

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on April 22, 2021, 10:53:43 AM
Big Footy snout Tiger71 on the Tiger podcast: GWS red hot on CCJ...was implied we want Tom Green in return - said Hardwick loves him (also said we want to hold onto our draft picks)....:shh



Sounds fine to me. Neither has really proven themselves yet and unless CCJ gets a game vs Dees it looks like we're prepared to go without a second ruck unless Soldo is available so why would we need CCJ?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2021, 11:26:57 AM
Thinking more about this we do need another quality inside mid but Green is still 2-3 years away from hitting his straps and will come to us eventually - the club is in his blood-..I'd rather get Taylor right now and I'd even chuck in a first with CCJ as well if that's what it took to get him... :shh

Also hoping against hope that our list managers are trying to work out a way we can afford Kelly without compromising the TPP and the list... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 25, 2021, 12:17:52 PM
Thinking more about this we do need another quality inside mid but Green is still 2-3 years away from hitting his straps and will come to us eventually - the club is in his blood-..I'd rather get Taylor right now and I'd even chuck in a first with CCJ as well if that's what it took to get him... :shh

Also hoping against hope that our list managers are trying to work out a way we can afford Kelly without compromising the TPP and the list... :shh :shh
You finally off the SSP bandwagon then? :shh :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on April 25, 2021, 01:18:57 PM
How the chances of Adam Cerra coming to Richmond
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on April 25, 2021, 01:22:11 PM
Currently behind the chances of him going to Geelong or staying at Freo ....subject to change... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on May 05, 2021, 04:09:04 PM
Got to love trade rumours like this.

A caller to SEN claimed his "second cousin" who is in the know has told him Cotchin will retire at the end of the season freeing up $800k in our salary cap and that that will be used to get Patrick Cripps to Tigerland in 2022.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 05, 2021, 07:06:17 PM
The way Cripps has looked these past couple of seasons I’d rather use that money elsewhere.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on May 10, 2021, 12:06:10 PM
Harry McKay is reportedly being aggressively targeted by rival clubs, according to Garry Lyon.

https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-rival-clubs-coming-at-blues-star-in-a-big-big-way-2021-83516/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on May 10, 2021, 01:24:36 PM
Scumbaggers would let Cripps go before McKay... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 10, 2021, 02:33:11 PM
Gary would know all about aggressively targeting someone now wouldn't he.



Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on May 10, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
Gary know would know all about aggressively targeting someone now wouldn't he.

I shouldn't laugh......
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on May 10, 2021, 10:42:16 PM
Would rather McKay than Cripps but would take either.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2021, 01:51:19 PM
“Perth sources tell me it’s not actually the money or the tenure that’s going to keep him at Fremantle or make him leave.

“He loves the club, he loves his teammates, it’s purely whether he wants to live in Perth from a lifestyle and family perspective, or whether he wants to come home to Victoria and live in Melbourne.”

“Fremantle have offered Cerra a four-year deal, and I understand it’s worth somewhere between $700,000 and $750,000 a year,” Morris reported on AFL Tonight.

If Cerra did decide to leave, he would need to be traded, which would earn the Dockers “certainly a top 10 pick ... maybe even top five or six given he’s a ready-made player with four years in the system,” Morris said.

“But if he hasn’t signed on by Round 13 or 14, if I was Freo, I’d be slightly worried.

“It’s more of a lifestyle or footy decision, but his name will be at the top of everyone’s whiteboard - don’t believe for a second it’s just Carlton or just Essendon that’s chasing Cerra, a whole line of Victorian clubs will line up to get him if he’s still unsigned in eight weeks’ time.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-teams-with-salary-cap-space-hawthorn-essendon-north-melbourne-adelaide-adam-cerra/news-story/52ad6a719c4c6461485a95126c025c62
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on May 14, 2021, 08:39:13 PM
Hearing we [Richmond] have renewed our interest in Charlie Constable given our midfield injuries this year.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-2.1250613/post-70048147
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on May 15, 2021, 02:47:45 AM
Oh god no.... :facepalm
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on May 18, 2021, 03:51:13 PM
Live trade chat with Tom Morris from Foxsports

Q. Do you think Richmond will take its picks to the draft or will they surprise a few and trade for a big name?

Tom Morris: They could easily top up and go again. Why not? Have a crack while you can.

Q. Will Darcy Moore be a option? Considering the age profile of Dylan Grimes and Astbury?

Tom Morris: Moore becomes a free agent at the end of 2022. I can't see the Pies allowing him to go before then, even if he wants to.

Q. Hi Tom any whispers about Richmond getting Tom Green from GWS

Tom Morris: Can't see GWS allowing that to happen

Q. Sources tell me the tigers are heavily into Tom Green and he has family connections there as his grandfather is a 4 x premiership player

Tom Morris: Just because a club likes a player it doesn't mean he will get there.


Tom Morris also reckons clubs will target Ross:

Q. Watching Fremantle it's pretty clear they need a big body in the midfield because they look rather small without one of Mundy or Fyfe in there. Anyone on their radar?

Tom Morris: They are looking for midfielders, that's true. I really like Jack Ross from Richmond and reckon clubs should target him.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-trades-chat-with-tom-morris-live-chat-patrick-cripps-marcus-bontempelli-contracts-jack-riewoldt/news-story/fde4217df22b923fe0e8fbf16c8b52a1
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on May 18, 2021, 10:20:25 PM
No idea why anybody would want Ross
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 18, 2021, 10:25:33 PM
If we had picked I'd be interested in Nathan Freeman

Over his hammy issues

Playing great footy for Frankston at the moment
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on May 19, 2021, 12:14:14 AM
Word is clubs are generally cool on Freeman...apparently getting high numbers but not doing much with it - not damaging enough. :shh

No idea why anybody would want Ross

Maybe they haven't forgotten his initial form before his injury, that he's an on-baller not a flanker and perhaps they intend to get him on the carbs and back into the weights room.... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on May 19, 2021, 09:13:35 AM
Word is clubs are generally cool on Freeman...apparently getting high numbers but not doing much with it - not damaging enough. :shh

No idea why anybody would want Ross

Maybe they haven't forgotten his initial form before his injury, that he's an on-baller not a flanker and perhaps they intend to get him on the carbs and back into the weights room.... :shh :shh

Like Matt Arnott playing forward haha.

I agree taking weight off him has been a huge failure, but then how do we know the footy injury hasn't ruined him either? I'd be keen to see him bulk up and go inside mid again but I wonder if he peaked early. His form in full games hasn't warranted ongoing selection.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on May 19, 2021, 10:02:16 AM
Word is clubs are generally cool on Freeman...apparently getting high numbers but not doing much with it - not damaging enough. :shh

No idea why anybody would want Ross

Maybe they haven't forgotten his initial form before his injury, that he's an on-baller not a flanker and perhaps they intend to get him on the carbs and back into the weights room.... :shh :shh

Dio, did you call up SEN on this Saturday just gone to talk about Ross?

A clearly well-versed Richmond fan called up to discuss this exact point and I thought it might have been you.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on May 19, 2021, 05:44:10 PM
Haha no...hardly ever listen to SEN these days... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on May 19, 2021, 06:19:12 PM
Haha no...hardly ever listen to SEN these days... :shh

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on May 20, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
RICHMOND

Richmond doesn’t have a spot on their list, but may be able to open one up if ruckman Ivan Soldo is pushed onto the inactive list. The ruckman recently had more surgery on his knee, with his timeline still likely to be around the end of the year. Tyson Stengle is one player they could consider, with the small forward potentially returning to the Tigers.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-afl-midseason-draft-mid-season-rookie-draft-afl-contracts-afl-lists-afl-draft-2021-jacob-edwards-tyson-stengle/news-story/a1d966e9e4044f72c07e62f79b6fbf96?recommendedCount=0
Title: Richmond has Docker Adam Cerra in their sights says Sumich (SEN)
Post by: one-eyed on May 27, 2021, 02:08:31 PM
THE VICTORIAN POWERHOUSE CLUB "INTO" DOCKERS MIDFIELDER CERRA

By Laurence Rosen
SEN
27 May 2021


West Coast champion Peter Sumich believes Richmond has out-of-contract Fremantle midfielder Adam Cerra in their sights.

The 21-year-old is currently weighing up whether to accept a lucrative offer to stay at the Dockers or return home to Victoria at the end of the season.

Cerra has impressed in his short time at the club and is averaging 21 touches and five marks per game in 2021.

Sumich says he’s heard Richmond are targeting Cerra as a long-term replacement for skipper Trent Cotchin, while he said uncontracted forward Shai Bolton would re-sign with the Tigers and isn’t likely to be involved in any possible trade.

“I’m hearing Richmond is into Adam Cerra without any trade (for uncontracted Richmond forward Shai Bolton coming back the other way),” he said on SEN WA Drive.

“They’re going to try get him and not worry about (Shai) Bolton, I think he’ll stay at the Tigers. They’ve won a couple of premierships and still have more to come in the next three or four years in my opinion.

“I’m hearing that they’re targeting him as a replacement for Trent Cotchin down the track, they want to get him in now and then in two or three years’ time when his best footy is behind him, they’ll look to use Cerra a bit more through the midfield. That’s what I’m hearing.”

Sumich urged Fremantle not to ask for an excessive amount in a trade if Cerra does signal his intention to leave the club and head home.

He said the Dockers couldn’t afford to let their emotions dictate trade demands, instead saying they’d be better off negotiating a deal that benefited them in the longer term.

“If Richmond is targeting (Adam) Cerra and he’s out of contract, you have to be careful,” he said.

“At the end of the day they’ll ask for a lot, but Cerra can go into the pre-season draft if they can’t get the deal done.

“As much as Fremantle should probably earn a top 10 pick out of (a trade) and maybe a rotation of a second rounder, they wouldn’t want to go over the top so they might not get anything.

“They can’t get emotional; you don’t always want or take more because a player like Cerra may want to go and then try and screw over other clubs because you’re upset.

“You’ll get it back down the track, that’s how it works. Clubs see that you’re doing the right thing, your day will come where you’ll get a little bit back and someone else will miss out.

“You just have to be patient and work with clubs if a kid wants to go home.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/27/the-victorian-powerhouse-club-into-dockers-midfielder-cerra/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on May 27, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
 :cheers
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on May 27, 2021, 05:43:40 PM
Is Sumich working for us?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on May 27, 2021, 06:28:11 PM
A second round pick thus year and a future second round pick is fair.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 27, 2021, 09:28:41 PM
He got the moves does Cerra, he got the moves. Bah dah du
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on May 27, 2021, 09:38:06 PM
A future midfield of Cerra, Green, RCD, Baker, Bolton and Dow with MRJ rotating through...


(https://media3.giphy.com/media/aTx5OMKR7FCGQ/giphy.webp?cid=ecf05e47zri4na8h2w8idkj5uqbyi4o4r3vq2c4s79x1wu6j&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)

:shh


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: FooffooValve on May 27, 2021, 10:35:20 PM
Hope we're working on Tom Green too.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on May 28, 2021, 06:48:32 AM
A second round pick thus year and a future second round pick is fair.

Dreaming mate second round pick kid is quality people under selling him big time.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on May 28, 2021, 07:47:20 AM
They stole Conca (pick 6} for stuff all. We owe them one.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 28, 2021, 08:45:53 AM
Because Conca was so highly rated by everyone here
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on May 28, 2021, 09:45:00 AM
Francis Jackson luv’d him
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on May 28, 2021, 01:33:34 PM
Picked ahead of Fyffe
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 03, 2021, 04:32:57 PM
DOCKERS WAITING ON CERRA

Fremantle has tabled an offer to out-of-contract midfielder Adam Cerra, with the club’s footy boss Peter Bell revealing the 21-year-old has had a deal in front of him “for a while”.

Cerra, a Victorian, has been linked with a return home with rival clubs offering significant money in a bid to snare the rising star.

Speaking on SEN, Bell provided an update on where contract negotiations sat with the emerging onballer.

“Adam and his management have had an offer in front of them and they’ve had it for a while,” Bell told Dwayne’s World.

“Adam is a really considered person, we’re respecting that. We see a really invested player at our footy club.

“He’s got a lot to work through, which he will do in his own time. We’re really comfortable with where it sits and it certainly hasn’t affected his performance.

“We’ll just continue those conversations and dialogue with Adam and his management.”

Asked if the club would like to secure the signature of Cerra before season’s end, Bell said it “would be the hope”, but they’ll be content to “work our way through it” if it isn’t done.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-news-2021-trade-whispers-latest-news-rumours-out-of-contract-players-free-agents-adam-cerra-sam-petrevskiseton/news-story/fc5bfca32bc93e17f56b0d08a5a56fba
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Owl on June 04, 2021, 03:29:50 PM
THose bastards wasted Fyfe.  WASTED him
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2021, 06:51:24 PM
Tom Browne on 7news just now said Adam Cerra is now leaning towards leaving Fremantle and Richmond is one of the clubs he could end up at.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 09, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Tom Browne on 7news just now said Adam Cerra is now leaning towards leaving Fremantle and Richmond is one of the clubs he could end up at.

How are we going to afford him with key signings of Bolton and CCJ to address?

Would need to move on Houli, Astbury, Caddy at a minimum.

And trade picks. We are likely to have 2 picks around 15-20. One of those won't be enough.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2021, 07:31:15 PM
Tom Browne on 7news just now said Adam Cerra is now leaning towards leaving Fremantle and Richmond is one of the clubs he could end up at.
Here's the clip [go to 0.53 min mark]: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1402549761731821576
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: mightytiges on June 09, 2021, 09:21:03 PM
Tom Browne on 7news just now said Adam Cerra is now leaning towards leaving Fremantle and Richmond is one of the clubs he could end up at.

How are we going to afford him with key signings of Bolton and CCJ to address?

Would need to move on Houli, Astbury, Caddy at a minimum.

And trade picks. We are likely to have 2 picks around 15-20. One of those won't be enough.
We still should have money over from Rance leaving? We still had Rance when Lynch joined us.

Houli should retire come seasons end which would also free up some more of the salary cap. Age is starting to catch up on Bachar. He's losing his feet at times and reaching for the footy which is the classic sign of 'old' age footy wise. Retire with everyone remembering him as the champion he's been for our Club before his body completely falls away. It would be sad to see him struggling for that one extra year and running around in the twos next year.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2021, 10:00:50 PM

We still should have money over from Rance leaving? We still had Rance when Lynch joined us.


But wasn't Lynch's contract backed ended? Or was it front ended? I thought first few years he was taking less with the bigger chunk being in the last 2 years? Stand corrected if I've got that wrong

The thing that concerns me is what we would have to give up and I'm not just talking draft picks. Freo may want a player. When you look at what the Club has built culture wise, the clear connection and the bonds that exist within the playing group just think the club needs to be careful not jeopardise that
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 09, 2021, 10:22:51 PM
pretty sure Lynch is back ended WP.

I must be the only bloke on here that doesnt really rate Cerra all that well. That said i dont watch much of Freo, so whatever the club decides is good enough for me except in the case of Mitchell who i think would be a bad mistake.







Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 09, 2021, 10:23:57 PM

We still should have money over from Rance leaving? We still had Rance when Lynch joined us.


But wasn't Lynch's contract backed ended? Or was it front ended? I thought first few years he was taking less with the bigger chunk being in the last 2 years? Stand corrected if I've got that wrong

The thing that concerns me is what we would have to give up and I'm not just talking draft picks. Freo may want a player. When you look at what the Club has built culture wise, the clear connection and the bonds that exist within the playing group just think the club needs to be careful not jeopardise that

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/half-price-tiger-details-revealed-on-tom-lynch-s-backloaded-deal-20181005-p507w8.html

29 in October with 4 years to go.

1.5 mil in the last year

well worth it with 2 flags, one we wouldnt have without him, but its a big price in his final years.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2021, 10:24:25 PM
Quinton Narkle is going to look absolutely FABULOUS in yellow and black next year

https://twitter.com/toubelei/status/1402541624618405889


Everyone coming to Punt Rd  :laugh:.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on June 09, 2021, 11:40:39 PM
 Thought the Lynch contract was changed after Rance retired and we brought forward some of his back ended contract. If we didn't  do that then it would be one of the rare list mangement errors the club has made in recent years
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 10, 2021, 09:11:45 AM
Thought the Lynch contract was changed after Rance retired and we brought forward some of his back ended contract. If we didn't  do that then it would be one of the rare list mangement errors the club has made in recent years

Yes this is correct. We used some of the Rance money (about $650,000+ saved) to adjust existing contracts. No doubt Lynch is one of them and I think Caddy was also. Can't remember who else.

Still think if we want to keep guys like Bolton, CCJ, Chol etc we need to move blokes on. Houli, Astbury should retire 100%. Caddy move on. Jack to go another year, Cotchin I'm not sure but I would think so, both on less money.

That should be enough to cover those 3 young guys.

Not a huge Cerra fan myself but he's decent. Would cost reasonable coin tho and plenty in a trade.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 10, 2021, 09:45:34 AM
Shame the veterans list isn't around anymore. Most likely introduced to stop hawthorns dominance so no chance they will bring it back now with the amount we have that would fit into that category.

Caddy no big loss who else is replaceable?

We need to make some other hard calls IMO.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 10, 2021, 12:55:38 PM
I'd like us to hit the draft hard but if giving up all our picks could help us land Green, Cerra & say, Sam Taylor -  I'd do it in a heartbeat... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 10, 2021, 01:01:22 PM
So apparently Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is already shopping himself around...  :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 10, 2021, 02:40:03 PM
Were there is smoke there is normally fire so reckon the Cerra one is likely. 
Be surprised if we go anywhere near Mitchell
If we can get Cerra and keep Bolton we've done very well. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 10, 2021, 03:13:28 PM
As much as I love Prestia in the yandb , his hammies are a major concern, what could be an upside here??

Is he tradeable??
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on June 10, 2021, 03:22:12 PM
As much as I love Prestia in the yandb , his hammies are a major concern, what could be an upside here??

Is he tradeable??

Since he come over he has contributed to all our 3 flags going bananas here  :banghead
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on June 10, 2021, 04:00:36 PM
As much as I love Prestia in the yandb , his hammies are a major concern, what could be an upside here??

Is he tradeable??

Since he co e overflows he has contributed to you for real people going bananas here  :banghead

ah...come again?...
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 10, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
So apparently Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is already shopping himself around...  :shh
That was Sam Edmund on SEN. Dogs have Naughton, Bruce plus future F/S Sam Darcy coming on board at this year's draft. Edmund wondered if Ugle-Hagan will get a game at the Dogs so could he be looking elsewhere?

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=838691
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on June 10, 2021, 04:12:07 PM
At least we know Cerra will play for the jumper and for the cash. Hes a Richmond man already. One of ours.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 10, 2021, 04:13:09 PM
Freo fans on their BF forum want either:

Bolton + pick for Cerra.

Two top 10 picks for Cerra.

CCJ + two first rounders for Cerra.

 :lol

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 10, 2021, 04:46:56 PM
Freo fans on their BF forum want either:

Bolton + pick for Cerra.

Two top 10 picks for Cerra.

CCJ + two first rounders for Cerra.

 :lol

LOL.  If Bolton goes and Cerra wants in then we would be the club getting a sweetener
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 10, 2021, 06:12:27 PM
ANOTHER VIC CLUB INTERESTED IN CERRA

Senior foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris last month revealed the Dockers had offered Cerra a four-year deal worth around $750,000 per season. Club football boss Peter Bell last week confirmed Cerra has had that deal in front of him “for a while”.

It’s understood Cerra’s decision is about location, rather than money, as there’s a big lure from loved ones to return to Victoria.

Essendon and, in particular, Carlton have been linked to Cerra in recent weeks.

But on Wednesday night, Browne reported another big Victorian club was keen on the midfielder.

“Adam Cerra is leaning towards leaving at the end of the year,” Browne wrote on Twitter.

“Richmond is one of a number of clubs interested in the Docker.”

It comes after Morris reported on foxfooty.com.au on Monday night that Hawthorn star Tom Mitchell was open to being traded to another Victorian club at the end of the season under the right circumstances and would be receptive to a move to Richmond.

Cerra has had an excellent 2021 campaign to date, averaging 24.23 disposals, 8.1 contested possessions and 5.0 inside 50s from the eight full games he’s played.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/fremantle-dockers/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-adam-cerra-richmond-carlton-fremantle-contract-luke-parker-sydney-swans/news-story/67b9a1b414f91b6c1a02676b4fbadf9f
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 10, 2021, 07:54:29 PM
I'd want change coming back our way if Bolton is going there lol.

Like Cerra + their first rounder.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 10, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
They don’t have anything to offer that I’d take for Bolton.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 11, 2021, 08:20:28 AM
Bolton is the best u23 player in the competition
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on June 11, 2021, 09:20:29 AM
Bolton is a must keep.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 11, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
As much as I love Prestia in the yandb , his hammies are a major concern, what could be an upside here??

Is he tradeable??

Since he come over he has contributed to all our 3 flags going bananas here  :banghead
So you believe he is not tradeable, and we just keep him, nice to know. :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 11, 2021, 11:30:22 AM
As much as I love Prestia in the yandb , his hammies are a major concern, what could be an upside here??

Is he tradeable??

Since he come over he has contributed to all our 3 flags going bananas here  :banghead
So you believe he is not tradeable, and we just keep him, nice to know. :shh

And I thought the trade talk on the Tom Lynch thread was bad  :gobdrop who cares if he misses some games during the home and away season. He always makes it back for finals and dominates. One of our most important players.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 11, 2021, 04:48:38 PM
“There’s multiple clubs that have enquired about Ugle-Hagan’s willingness to entertain a trade in what it must be said has been a difficult debut season for him at Whitten Oval,” SEN reporter Sam Edmund said on Thursday.

“He has grown somewhat disillusioned with life at the Dogs this year.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-harry-mckay-collingwood-essendon-jarrod-brander-west-coast-contract/news-story/51a34bd80869917688121a3d9982c017
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on June 11, 2021, 04:52:26 PM
“There’s multiple clubs that have enquired about Ugle-Hagan’s willingness to entertain a trade in what it must be said has been a difficult debut season for him at Whitten Oval,” SEN reporter Sam Edmund said on Thursday.

“He has grown somewhat disillusioned with life at the Dogs this year.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-harry-mckay-collingwood-essendon-jarrod-brander-west-coast-contract/news-story/51a34bd80869917688121a3d9982c017

What could he be disillusioned with at the Dogs?? They won't play him in the top side?? is all I can think of.

Warning bells going off if that is the case
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on June 11, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
Maybe it is Mia's kiss of death first she dates Rioli who looses form and then dates the no 1 draft pick and he struggles.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: mightytiges on June 11, 2021, 10:38:53 PM
“There’s multiple clubs that have enquired about Ugle-Hagan’s willingness to entertain a trade in what it must be said has been a difficult debut season for him at Whitten Oval,” SEN reporter Sam Edmund said on Thursday.

“He has grown somewhat disillusioned with life at the Dogs this year.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-harry-mckay-collingwood-essendon-jarrod-brander-west-coast-contract/news-story/51a34bd80869917688121a3d9982c017

What could he be disillusioned with at the Dogs?? They won't play him in the top side?? is all I can think of.

Warning bells going off if that is the case
Perhaps miffed that even Schache got a game ahead of him?

It's probably all just media speculation and in the end he stays at the Dogs but it is an uncommon situation for a first draft pick. Normally they go to a bottom club and get given senior games immediately. He's going to have to bide his time instead with the Dogs currently top 2 while his draft peers run around in the seniors at other clubs.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 11, 2021, 11:34:08 PM
I'd go after him if we lost CCJ....only problem is he'd know he wouldn't be a walk up start until Jack retires so probably wouldn't want to come -though I'd back our ability  over most other clubs to change his attitude... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 12, 2021, 12:55:51 AM
He's been there 6 months? Not even?

And I thought Higgins was soft for leaving rather than sticking it out fmd.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 12, 2021, 09:38:33 AM
Maybe it is Mia's kiss of death first she dates Rioli who looses form and then dates the no 1 draft pick and he struggles.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
  :lol
No doubt the fevs have got in his ear.

I’m not up with all the social media but from what I gather playing in the twos isn’t great for the social status.
Dan found that out when he was dropped not only from the senior side but by the fevs altogether once it was obvious that he wasn’t going to be like Cyril.  :shh
Unfortunately for Ugle-Hagan, the number 1 pick comes with great expectations & responsibilities, just how long are the fevs willing to wait for the social media status credits to start rolling in.  :rollin
He might be forced to get that performance show on the road as the main attraction to appease the social influencer’s status credit machine.  :rollin
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on June 12, 2021, 10:19:26 AM
Maybe it is Mia's kiss of death first she dates Rioli who looses form and then dates the no 1 draft pick and he struggles.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The Kardasian curse Melbourne style
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 12, 2021, 08:14:41 PM
Sam Edmund believes gun GWS Giants midfielder Josh Kelly is “more likely” to leave the club at the end of 2021.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/12/in-demand-giants-midfielder-more-likely-to-leave-at-the-end-of-the-season/


Jack Billings becomes a restricted free agent at the end of the year and club great Nick Dal Santo believes he may be better suited at another club in 2022.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/12/why-st-kilda-and-jack-billings-may-be-best-served-parting-ways/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 14, 2021, 03:06:35 PM
BOMBERS HOLD TALKS FOR TIGERS PAIR

Essendon list boss Adrian Dodoro has held talks with player manager Ralph Carr about the futures of two of his clients in Tigers pair Shai Bolton and Mabior Chol, reports The Herald Sun’sMark Robinson.

Carr is believed to keeping the out-of-contract duo’s “options open” – who were both coached by Essendon coach Ben Rutten when he was an assistant at Richmond.

It is understood that Essendon has the cap space to acquire both players despite still needing to re-sign the likes of Zach Merrett, Darcy Parish and Jake Stringer.

Bolton – who is set for a bumper pay rise amid a career-best season – could command as up to $800,000 on the open market – a price Richmond can’t pay.

The young star has reached a “contract impasse” with the Tigers and put off talks until the end of the season, with West Coast and Fremantle monitoring Bolton’s situation in hope of luring the Western Australian home.

Meanwhile, both Chol and fellow Tigers tall Callum-Coleman Jones have previously been linked with moves to rival clubs in search of more opportunity elsewhere given the squeeze for ruck / forward spots at Richmond.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-shai-bolton-contract-mabior-chol-trade-contract-teams-interested-free-agents/news-story/8a209929fa4b05d2e1f85b84a25d1444
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on June 14, 2021, 05:56:51 PM
If either of those two were seriously considering maybe they should ask Basha about the culture at Essendon
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: the claw on June 14, 2021, 09:55:05 PM
As much as I love Prestia in the yandb , his hammies are a major concern, what could be an upside here??

Is he tradeable??

Since he come over he has contributed to all our 3 flags going bananas here  :banghead
So you believe he is not tradeable, and we just keep him, nice to know. :shh

And I thought the trade talk on the Tom Lynch thread was bad  :gobdrop who cares if he misses some games during the home and away season. He always makes it back for finals and dominates. One of our most important players.
Sheesh i agree with this.He is our best inside mid by some margin.

Personally im not fussed going after a big name. I reckon after this year it is time for a serious rebuild to start and would prefer we tie up our better younger players and find a way to get better picks in the draft.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 14, 2021, 11:52:14 PM
Don't need a rebuild just some renovations...window's wide open for another two years at least......:shh

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2021, 05:23:30 AM
Kane Cornes is expecting rival clubs, like Essendon and Collingwood, to raid Richmond's list given the salary cap squeeze.

"There's got to be a club aggressively come for these guys."

Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1404420158039412738
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on June 15, 2021, 06:25:52 AM
Karen is a little biatch again isn’t she
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2021, 08:00:08 AM
Dons can have Houli back.

Plenty of space to free up with Houli and Astbury cooked. Cotchin very close. Caddy to move on.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2021, 03:34:20 PM
Adam Cerra (Fremantle)

Morris: “He’s in limbo. Victorian clubs expect him to come home. They’re not quite sure where, but I think Carlton’s very much in the mix here. Freo’s offer is $750,000 across four years.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-adam-cerra-carlton-jack-billings-contract-free-agents-list/news-story/b58b3cc71f708f27139167e87e9754c6
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2021, 08:36:02 PM
Mitch Clearly and Cal Twomey think Cerra could put off moving for now and sign with Freo for two years. Then in two years time he can see where Freo are at. In four years Cerra will be a free agent.

22 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/news/632152/trade-edition-will-shai-stay-what-s-stopping-star-don-from-re-signing-
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 17, 2021, 10:37:32 AM
In other words they have no idea.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 17, 2021, 10:51:17 AM
I wouldn't pay $750k for him that's a effing joke
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 17, 2021, 04:10:26 PM
I see Merrett has signed at Bombers for 6 years at nearly 1m a year.  He's a good player but nowhere near that I don't believe 
Good luck to him, now set up for life. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 17, 2021, 04:25:18 PM
I see Merrett has signed at Bombers for 6 years at nearly 1m a year.  He's a good player but nowhere near that I don't believe 
Good luck to him, now set up for life.

It's the market now

Majority of Clubs will pay big bucks to hold onto to their best players. Or Clubs will pay even bigger bucks to lure them away  :help
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2021, 09:29:53 PM
According to BF podcast (from the snippets I listened to):

Houli to re-sign but knowing he will get less game time next year.

Freo looking at McIntosh. Also interested in Baker and Short but doubt we'll trade either of those two. If Cerra comes in it could be for Kmac + first round pick.

Heard Bombers going hard at Jack Ross (but needs to confirm).

Jack Bowes from Gold Coast wants to leave Gold Coast. One to keep an eye on.

Tom Green's name keeps popping up.

Ben Ainsworth (GC) - Morwell boy whose link is his family is mad Richmond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWmEJIJ8ozI
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 17, 2021, 10:46:48 PM
I see Merrett has signed at Bombers for 6 years at nearly 1m a year.  He's a good player but nowhere near that I don't believe 
Good luck to him, now set up for life. 

Allegedly $5mil over 6 years so about $833,000/year.

Big bucks indeed.

Makes you wonder why Cerra would be worth anywhere near 750 when Merrett is in AA contention and Cerra is finally getting 20+ touches on average.

If we have a punt on this guy I'd be wanting him for way less or FO.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 17, 2021, 10:51:17 PM
According to BF podcast (from the snippets I listened to):

Houli to re-sign but knowing he will get less game time next year.

Freo looking at McIntosh. Also interested in Baker and Short. If Cerra comes in it could be for Kmac + first round pick.

Heard Bombers going hard at Jack Ross (but needs to confirm).

Jack Bowes from Gold Coast wants to leave Gold Coast. One to keep an eye on.

Tom Green's name keeps popping up.

Ben Ainsworth (GC) - Morwell boy whose link is his family is mad Richmond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWmEJIJ8ozI

I hope they don't sign Houli again.

Happy to trade KMac but not Baker or Short personally.

Bombers can have Ross or we will probably delist him surely? He gone backwards and done nothing since his debut although he's clearly played out of position often.

Ainsworth no effing thanks. Bowes is a decent player but similar to Vlastuin, not sure this should be our priority.

Green should 100% be our target. Should have rookie listed his brother too. Otherwise priorities are surely keeping Bolton + CCJ.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2021, 11:43:20 PM
More from the BF podcast:

Richmond will be active in the draft. A rebuild on the run. A combo of looking to the future as well as filling needs now given we have injury prone mids. We want to bring in a mature mid (22-26 y.o.) on top of drafting Cotch's midfield replacement.

We don't have enough spots to use all 6 good picks on kids. Some players will have to go.

We will bring in 4-5 players over the off-season. 1-2 players from other clubs and then 3 via the draft.

We will try to trade one of our 2nd rounders for a future first rounder.

Noise on Narkle is real. Won't cost a lot. Friends with Dan Rioli. Want to play him in the midfield. Cost a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Cerra is not a lock. 50/50 chance (later said 60% chance of leaving). Happy at Freo but has family here. If Cerra leaves Freo we are his No.1 option (80% confident it will be to us). Not Carl, Ess, North or Haw. Hardwick has met twice with him. 2-3 years work on this. Won't be $800k p.a.. It'll be less money but heavily back-loaded. We'll play Cerra as a winger. Not giving up 2 first rounders as we want to use one in the draft. It will be a pick and a player. If Cerra stays at Freo, we will use both 1st rounders in the draft.

Will Brodie will get delisted and we could pick him up as a rookie as could other clubs.

Mitch Wallis is likely as a mature inside mid we want. Will leave the Dogs. Very very cheap (4th round pick). Carlton interested as well.

Hopper off the board.

Cooled from last year on Charlie Constable.

Tom Mitchell not coming. Hawks want a first rounder and we won't give up a first pick now since his broken leg.

Major breakdown at St Kilda. Billings will leave to go to a good club. Not linked to us at this stage.

Earlier in the video said thinks one of CCJ or Chol will stay.

Then at the end of video said CCJ was 100% gone but now 70%. We will need a lot of salesmanship to get him to stay as he's been on the list for a long time and we didn't play him. If CCJ is dropped for Lynch in the finals then he's gone. If he's not re-signed by the finals then worry.

Ditto Chol (if he's not re-signed by finals). Think he'll go due to his family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWmEJIJ8ozI
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 18, 2021, 06:49:11 AM
Hmmm not sure about Wallis, Brodie and Narkle. Has a moneyball feel to it. Wallis will be 29 at years end. The other two haven't really got many runs on the board but I guess I'll trust the club.

They will play CCJ with Lynch and he will stay. Chol going surely.

Cerra would have to take unders here, significantly.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on June 18, 2021, 08:34:58 AM
Sounds like a summary of the previous 7 pages of this thread #clueless
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on June 18, 2021, 10:49:51 AM
Narkle seems to lack the tank that will put him in the midfield so why are we linked to him?

Struggling to cement a place in Geelong's midfield.

We already have enough small forwards who are better than Narkle.

?????????????
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 18, 2021, 11:40:09 AM
Would hate to see KMac go
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 18, 2021, 12:37:50 PM
Hmmm not sure about Wallis, Brodie and Narkle. Has a moneyball feel to it. Wallis will be 29 at years end. The other two haven't really got many runs on the board but I guess I'll trust the club.

They will play CCJ with Lynch and he will stay. Chol going surely.

Cerra would have to take unders here, significantly.

You say moneyball like it’s a negative. It isn’t, low cost for high gain providing you don’t build an entire list with that approach.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on June 18, 2021, 01:28:39 PM
Hmmm not sure about Wallis, Brodie and Narkle. Has a moneyball feel to it. Wallis will be 29 at years end. The other two haven't really got many runs on the board but I guess I'll trust the club.

They will play CCJ with Lynch and he will stay. Chol going surely.

Cerra would have to take unders here, significantly.

You say moneyball like it’s a negative. It isn’t, low cost for high gain providing you don’t build an entire list with that approach.


If it's done right. We are doing it a lot better these days, but ultimately with guys like Cotchin, Houli, Astbury moving on you'd like to see some genuine quality come in too.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 18, 2021, 10:07:19 PM
Brodie's name's been coming up in relation to us since he was drafted...wish it would stop... Wallis - could do a lot worse but surely not at his age which seems to contradict the supposed "rebuilding on the run" strategy....Narkle...meh....only if cheap and if it helps us keep Bolton.. :shh.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 19, 2021, 01:30:54 PM
Sumich reckons Cerra is staying....

https://twitter.com/johnt237/status/1406077117486358528

..but he said the opposite a week ago.... :shh




Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: mightytiges on June 19, 2021, 11:28:36 PM
Sumich reckons Cerra is staying....

https://twitter.com/johnt237/status/1406077117486358528

..but he said the opposite a week ago.... :shh
Adam Cerra set to sign 2year $1.5mil deal with @freodockers, says Peter Sumich on @913sportfm‘s #beforethefooty. “Sometimes you have to pay overs to keep players in WA”

No way is Cerra worth $750k per year!  :gobdrop
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 20, 2021, 01:07:52 PM
We should just be going to the draft.  Get the next Cerra there
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 20, 2021, 02:08:48 PM
Shockers paying overs to keep him in WA...if he did come to us imagine it would be for a fair bit less than that... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: mightytiges on June 20, 2021, 02:13:33 PM
We should just be going to the draft.  Get the next Cerra there
It will depend on where and how we finish this year. If we finish well short of the other contenders then we'll need to seriously review if there's another flag left in the current group as great as they have been. If not then I agree with should head to the draft and build the list for the next decade. We don't want to top up, fail and then hit a massive cliff like Hawthorn has.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2021, 10:10:11 PM
Former Fremantle coach Ross Lyon thinks Carlton should target young Dockers midfielder Adam Cerra.

Herald Sun reporter Jay Clark told Lyon that he’s heard talk that Carlton will look to shed three young midfielders this off-season with the potential to bring Cerra in.

“You have a look at Lochie O’Brien, Sam Petrevski-Seton and Paddy Dow go out, and Adam Cerra come in,” Clark said on Triple M.

“That’s starting to be some of the talk around the recruiters and list managers.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/20/ross-lyon-urges-carlton-to-target-adam-cerra/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 20, 2021, 10:13:09 PM
PADDY DOW

HAHA is it april fools. He is not an AFL footballer, lets be honest here.


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 20, 2021, 11:14:51 PM
If you think that's funny wait until you hear the one about how we were sniffing around him last year and may still be.... :shh :help
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2021, 01:03:11 PM
Bulldogs youngster Patrick Lipinski is reportedly being eyed-off by a number of Victorian clubs according to Sam Edmund.

https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-victorian-lipinski-clubs-targeting-bulldogs-youngster-85677/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on June 23, 2021, 05:40:38 PM
I love Pat at Richmond, is young and has exceptional foot skills, quality person from a very good family would fit into the Richmond way very easily
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 23, 2021, 07:19:49 PM
Narkle dropped by the Cats again tonight. So the whispers will continue to grow.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 23, 2021, 07:24:52 PM
Narkle dropped by the Cats again tonight. So the whispers will continue to grow.

PASS
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on June 23, 2021, 09:04:38 PM
Narkle dropped by the Cats again tonight. So the whispers will continue to grow.

Not surprised after last weeks game, average at best, stay away from him Richmond.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2021, 05:58:35 AM
Narkle dropped by the Cats again tonight. So the whispers will continue to grow.

Not surprised after last weeks game, average at best, stay away from him Richmond.
I agree but being part of the Ralph Carr's stable means the rumours will link Narkle to us.



Narkle is one of Ralph Carr's five AFL clients, alongside Richmond quartet Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton, Mabior Chol and Daniel Rioli.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/24/should-off-contract-cat-explore-his-options/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 25, 2021, 03:31:03 PM
Cripps signed for 6 years.  That is crazy. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 25, 2021, 04:24:52 PM
You mean Jack couldn't entice his Rampage VC over? :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2021, 05:09:55 PM
The media claiming clubs will go harder after Cerra now that Cripps and Merrett have re-signed.

Adam Cerra

One of the most talked about players this year in terms of where his future lies – the former Pick 5 has been linked to several Victorian clubs as he weighs up returning home – including Carlton, Essendon and Richmond. And Cerra remains unsigned late in the season, expect a whole line of Victorian clubs to pursue him.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-free-agents-players-with-most-at-stake-contracts-trade-targets-adam-cerra-shai-bolton-mason-cox/news-story/cd8d400535e569b1ddbba9598b4b3602
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 25, 2021, 09:48:25 PM
Go to the draft Tigers. 
The run is over by the looks.  Lets regenerate
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 25, 2021, 09:49:48 PM
Keep Chol playing and we can fool another team to give us a second rounder.  :rollin
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 25, 2021, 11:35:34 PM
Cholly’s been in the system for too long. The pattern is far too obvious
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 25, 2021, 11:37:55 PM
Go to the draft Tigers. 
The run is over by the looks.  Lets regenerate

Green, Cerra, Taylor all still young.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 25, 2021, 11:54:40 PM
Go to the draft Tigers. 
The run is over by the looks.  Lets regenerate

Green, Cerra, Taylor all still young.... :shh

Yes but get them at what price? 750k, 600k? 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 26, 2021, 12:27:03 AM
If Cerra chooses us over Freo & Carlton it will be for unders (though not cheap) , Green is still only a second year player...his initial contract shouldn't be be that high or at least back ended(yeah yeah Tom Boyd but that was a one off and he was a key forward) ...Taylor -who I think should be an absolute priority target- would arguably cost the most in terns of salary & picks... these are the three I'd give up our high picks for (and next year's too if need be) ...otherwise yes - we should hit the draft as hard as we can.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Pappy on June 26, 2021, 07:05:51 AM
It’s been an AMAZING run guys, but it looks like it’s coming to an end.
As good as it’s been, let’s take our draft picks and go to the draft to re-stock the shelves.
The Cerra’s of this world are not in our next premiership window.
Look at the vibrancy of Essendank taking 3 early draft picks and nailing them. With a bit of luck, I’m sure we can do something very similar.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 26, 2021, 01:42:58 PM

The Cerra’s of this world are not in our next premiership window.


Window is at least ajar until Dusty pulls the pin, especially if Bolton stays as well and considering Cerra's probably got a least decade of footy left in him barring serious injury you'd hope he was also in our next one.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on June 26, 2021, 03:01:44 PM
It’s been an AMAZING run guys, but it looks like it’s coming to an end.
As good as it’s been, let’s take our draft picks and go to the draft to re-stock the shelves.
The Cerra’s of this world are not in our next premiership window.
Look at the vibrancy of Essendank taking 3 early draft picks and nailing them. With a bit of luck, I’m sure we can do something very similar.

Agree.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on June 26, 2021, 04:37:18 PM
Go hard at the draft. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 27, 2021, 05:31:40 AM
... Carlton would be so keen to spend a reported $750,000 per season in luring Cerra back to Melbourne, who has yet to prove himself as an elite footballer.

“I’m staggered by the money that’s on offer to him,” Whateley said on SEN’s Crunch Time.

“There is surely a rite of passage where there’s an interim contract of around $400,000.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/26/whateley-staggered-by-reported-offers-for-adam-cerra/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 27, 2021, 10:47:37 AM
... Carlton would be so keen to spend a reported $750,000 per season in luring Cerra back to Melbourne, who has yet to prove himself as an elite footballer.

“I’m staggered by the money that’s on offer to him,” Whateley said on SEN’s Crunch Time.

“There is surely a rite of passage where there’s an interim contract of around $400,000.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/26/whateley-staggered-by-reported-offers-for-adam-cerra/
Cripps $1mil
McKay $900k
Williams $850k  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Saad $650k  :rollin
Martin $600k  :rollin :rollin :rollin
McGovern $600k  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Walsh 600k
C Curnow $500k

How many more players can they offer to pay the big bucks?

Are the baggers up to there old tricks
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on June 27, 2021, 03:55:42 PM
If Cerra chooses the scumbaggers then he was never a true Richmond supporter... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 27, 2021, 08:18:40 PM
If Cerra chooses the scumbaggers then he was never a true Richmond supporter... :shh
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
:clapping
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2021, 05:51:26 PM
Fremantle chief executive Simon Garlick says his club is “really comfortable” with where contract negotiations sit with young gun on-baller Adam Cerra.

North Melbourne is offering the Giants' Josh Kelly $8.8m over 8 years to move to Arden St.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-adam-cerra-carlton-fremantle-talks-daniel-talia-adelaide-contract/news-story/4efcb4c731e5f3acf98703e940bcd852

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2021, 04:13:50 AM
Quote from: Spanner Head
I’ve heard whisper and this bloke 99percent right about all footy news he thinks Cotchin won’t be at tigers next year 100 percent thinks stack will be at Fremantle Choi gone caddy gone Houli retired castagna traded plenty room for big name join

https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/06/30/why-are-the-tigers-in-decline/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 01, 2021, 04:39:20 AM
Doesn't take a genius to figure all that out.

Only real question is do we trade George?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on July 01, 2021, 02:39:56 PM
Didn't George just re sign for 2 or 3 years.
Cotchin & Houli I can see both retiring. 
Chol can go.  No issue there. 
I would keep Caddy, dont know why he is not getting a game. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 01, 2021, 02:43:07 PM
Agree re: Caddy not getting a game although I'm happy to trade him. Club is finished with him. But I'd have preferred him vs Saints instead of Ryan given the weather. At least the prick has a crack.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2021, 06:03:39 PM
Sydney and “a big Melbourne club” are among clubs circling out-of-contract Western Bulldogs midfielder Patrick Lipinski.

Bulldogs teammate Ed Richards was gaining trade market attention, with North Melbourne and Brisbane “very interested” in the rebounding defender/wingman.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/clubs-circling-bulldog-lipinski-20210630-p585ou.html
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on July 01, 2021, 07:13:15 PM
Pat Lipinski would be a good pick up, silky foot skills
Caddy plays a role and is a big body which is what we need at the moment as Cotch can’t do it all
In short bursts maybe off the forward flank it would be to get him into the packs
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on July 01, 2021, 11:20:03 PM
Pat Lipinski would be a good pick up, silky foot skills
Caddy plays a role and is a big body which is what we need at the moment as Cotch can’t do it all
In short bursts maybe off the forward flank it would be to get him into the packs

Caddy is not the answer.

Wouldn’t mind Lipinski at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on July 02, 2021, 07:54:10 AM
Go to the draft simple as that.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on July 02, 2021, 08:09:27 AM
Go to the draft simple as that.
Yes. You don't often get a chance to get these picks.  Use them.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 02, 2021, 08:50:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Mn9XENw.jpg)

Had some credibility until the last three words... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on July 03, 2021, 09:56:17 AM
Id keep our picks and forget about Cerra unless its for a future 1st and McIntosh or Pickett.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 03, 2021, 06:55:03 PM
Five trade targets for EVERY club: Richmond

What will the Tigers do in the trade period to keep their success coming?

By Benjamin Millard
zerohanger.com
3 July 2021


Richmond have been well below where they expected to be in season 2021, not measuring up to the extremely lofty standards set by their success in recent years.

The truth is that Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt and other ageing stars aren’t going to be around forever and sooner or later Damien Hardwick will have to start looking for new blood.

The idea of these stories is to identify potentially gettable targets who could fill roles, not just link every club to superstars, the likes of Marcus Bontempelli or Patrick Cripps.

In no particular order, here are five players which the Richmond recruitment team would do well to target and potentially poach.

1. Patrick LIPINSKI

NUMBER   27
POSITION   Midfield
WEIGHT   84 kg
HEIGHT   187 cm (6 ft 2 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   17/07/1998 (22 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Eltham (Vic)/Northern U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

2021 SEASON AVG:
16 Disposals
2.3 Tackles
1.4 Clearances

One of multiple Doggies players on this list, Patrick Lipinski would be a great deal for the Tigers to try and push through.

The wingman is industrious and has been in good form when he has been given the opportunity by Luke Beveridge.

The reality is however is that the Bulldogs have the best midfield in the competition as it stands, and for the 22-year-old to try and force himself into it would be a mammoth task.

This has lead to him spending a lot of time in the VFL, only playing nine games in 2021 so far.

With his contract out at the end of season 2021, the midfielder is the subject of intense interest from other clubs, and Richmond would likely be keeping their ear to the ground on the matter.

If he was to make the switch to Punt Road, then expect for him to go in on the wing and take over from Marlion Pickett should his form falter at any point.


2. Ed RICHARDS

NUMBER   20
POSITION   Midfield / Forward
WEIGHT   79 kg
HEIGHT   185 cm (6 ft 1 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   03/07/1999 (22 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Hawthorn Citizens (Vic)/Carey Grammar (Vic)/Oakleigh U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

ROUND 15 2021 STATS:
16 Disposals
3 Tackles
5 Marks

This pacey defender/midfielder hybrid is on a number of team’s hitlists this trade period, with the 21-year-old impressing in the 59 games he’s had at AFL level.

Richards had his first game back from a fractured fibula in Round 15 against the Eagles, spending most of his time on the half-back line and chipping in with his 16 disposals.

Despite this, he is able to drift across the half-forward and hurt teams that way with his blistering speed. With this, he could potentially slot into multiple spaces within Richmond’s best-22.

His inclusion on the weekend has shown the value that he brings to Luke Beveridge‘s side and it will take a huge offer to pry him away from Whitten Oval.

Despite the Tigers not having a huge salary cap available, it would be worth putting the feelers out and seeing what the Doggies have to say.


3. Mitch WALLIS

NUMBER   3
POSITION   Forward
WEIGHT   85 kg
HEIGHT   186 cm (6 ft 1 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   24/10/1992 (28 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   St Bernard's (Vic)/Calder U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

2021 SEASON AVG:
10.3 Disposals
1.3 Tackles

The third and final Dogs player on this list is Mitch Wallis, who has been out of favour in 2021 despite his impressive form in 2020.

The forward has only featured on four occasions for Luke Beveridge‘s side during this season and has failed to nail down a regular spot in a side that is steaming towards a home qualifying final position.

Despite this, there is no doubting the quality that he can bring to the table on his day. The 28-year-old managed 25 goals in his 18 appearances in a stunted season 2020 and was one of the key factors behind their finals appearance.

For the Tigers, he would be great across the forward-line to complement Riewoldt and Lynch when others around them such as Jason Castagna, Daniel Rioli or Jake Aarts maybe aren’t firing as well as they could.

Wallis becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season, meaning that he is able to choose where he plies his trade for season 2022.

It would be wise for the Tigers to put a contract on the table and bring Wallis to Punt Road at season’s end.


4. Adam CERRA

NUMBER   5
POSITION   Midfield
WEIGHT   84 kg
HEIGHT   188 cm (6 ft 2 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   07/10/1999 (21 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Norwood (Vic)/Wesley College (Vic)/Eastern U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2021

2021 SEASON AVG
21.7 Disposals
2.3 Tackles
3.3 Clearances

The big target that the Tigers are linked with for trade period 2021 is the gun Dockers midfielder Adam Cerra.

The 21-year-old has been linked with almost all sides in Victoria as he signaled his intent to move back home.

Cerra hasn’t been putting up huge numbers in season 2021, with arguably his best performance being against Sydney in Round 10 where he racked up 25 touches and a goal in a two-point win for his side.

However the sad truth for the Tigers is that captain Trent Cotchin isn’t getting any younger, nor is Dusty, Prestia or Shane Edwards, so the time might be now to go and secure the next generation of Tigers.

Getting Cerra could be the beginning of a new era at Punt Road, and with other youngsters coming through such as Chol, Coleman-Jones and Collier-Dawkins, it could be a bright future at Tigerland.


5. Harry PERRYMAN

NUMBER   36
POSITION   Defender / Midfield
WEIGHT   80 kg
HEIGHT   184 cm (6 ft 0 in)
DATE OF BIRTH   19/12/1998 (22 years old)
DRAFTED FROM   Collingullie-Glenfield Park (NSW)/NSW-ACT U18
CONTRACTED UNTIL   2022

2021 SEASON AVG
22.8 Disposals
5.4 Marks
4.8 Rebound50s

Giant Harry Perryman is a force to be reckoned with down back for Leon Cameron‘s side. The 22-year-old has been solid as a rock in the GWS rearguard for the last few years and earned himself a new two-year contract last year.

His 2021 form has been outstanding as well despite sustaining injuries which have kept him out of just under half of all games this year.

Perryman is averaging 2.1 intercept marks, 22.8 disposals and 423.3 metres gained per match, all above average numbers for a defender and showing he is able to help his team build from the back, something the Tigers enjoy doing.

Although a move could be unlikely this trade period, the Tigers should definitely attempt to secure the defender in the future, with his ability to win the ball an asset to any side he plays in.

https://www.zerohanger.com/five-trade-targets-for-every-club-richmond-86033/5/
Title: Jordan Lewis advises Tigers not to chase Docker Adam Cerra (zerohanger)
Post by: one-eyed on July 03, 2021, 06:59:05 PM
Hawks legend Jordan Lewis advises Tigers not to chase Docker Adam Cerra

Ed Carmine
zerohanger.com
July 3, 2021


Four-time premiership Hawk Jordan Lewis has stated that Richmond should not be pursuing the signature of out-of-contract Fremantle midfielder Adam Cerra, with the one-time All Australian holding the view that the reigning premiers should instead set their sights on the draft.

Following Thursday night’s final-siren that saw the Tigers fall short of the rising Suns by 10-points at Marvel Stadium, Herald Sun journalist Sam Landsberger tweeted that the Punt Road club currently held the 11th, 14th, 26th and 30th selections for this year’s talent pool.

Although their entry point is subject to change, Richmond will hold a pair of first round picks – unless they part with them to land Cerra.

Speaking on SEN’s AFL Nation last night, Lewis urged those at Tigerland not to sell the farm to secure the 21-year-old Victorian.

“I’d be staggered if they gave up their top picks in the draft,” he said

“I don’t think you need trade out players (and picks) out to get an Adam Cerra in, the draft pick that you might pick might be just as good but you don’t need to pay the money you’ll have to pay Cerra to come in.”

The 319-gamer pointed to the successes of a pair of current Demons as to why the Tigers should be on the prowl for draftees rather than Cerra.

“If there’s a Kossie Pickett or Luke Jackson in this draft that can come in and have an impact…that’s the decision they’ll have to make at the end of the year,” Lewis said.

“I certainly don’t think their successful period is done and dusted and don’t think it’s a bad thing if they miss finals this year, (it would) create a little bit of hunger and (they would) get a chunk of time off to see other teams playing finals when they should be playing.”

Cerra, a former first round draftee himself, has long been linked with numerous Victorian clubs – including Richmond – after his recent decision not to ink a new deal with the Dockers.

The Eastern Ranges product has 69-games for Fremantle since debuting in Round 2 of 2018 and holds career averages of 16.4-disposals, three tackles and 1.7 clearances across them.

https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-hawks-legends-advises-tigers-not-to-chase-docker-86235/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 03, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
Think we all agree with Lewis on this one
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 03, 2021, 08:34:38 PM
yep.

yes to greene from the gws and a big no to cerra
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 03, 2021, 08:53:56 PM
Would like both but if was came down to just one then it's Green by the length of Bass Strait over Cerra or pretty much any other player in the AFL for that matter.....mind you I'm also fairly confident that we'll get Green at some point in the not too distant future if not this year.. :shh.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 03, 2021, 08:59:48 PM
not that it matters these days but is he out of contract at the end of this year?

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 03, 2021, 09:07:54 PM
End of 2023 I think - so would take some doing to get him before then but the pull of Punt Road is strong -as you well know he's not just some kid who "grew up supporting Richmond" like Cerra, he's Royal Tiger blood.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: TigerLand on July 04, 2021, 12:06:39 AM
Perryman is a gun too
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 04, 2021, 10:05:29 AM
Not a player, but would love to see Luke Hodge somewhere in our coaching staff
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on July 04, 2021, 11:21:50 AM
Not a player, but would love to see Luke Hodge somewhere in our coaching staff

Yes.

Start looking beyond the Hardwick years. No point in creating a Sheedy Essendon situation. Bring in Hodge give him tbe senior gig in 3 years.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on July 04, 2021, 11:23:53 AM
Use McIntosh and Second round pick to get Cerra. Might take the Geelong first but aim would be a sceond.

Trade in Lipinski for a second and we have an upgrade for McIntosh's wing

Trade out Caddy for a late second early 3rd

Swap CCJ to GWS for Green

Use first two picks in the draft on talls
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Damo on July 04, 2021, 11:56:43 AM
Use McIntosh and Second round pick to get Cerra. Might take the Geelong first but aim would be a sceond.

Trade in Lipinski for a second and we have an upgrade for McIntosh's wing

Trade out Caddy for a late second early 3rd

Swap CCJ to GWS for Green

Use first two picks in the draft on talls

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
1- McIntosh and second for Cerra … dreaming
2- CCJ for Green … dreaming
3- Caddy for late second, early third … dreaming

Would be a bloody easy thing this list building caper if you could bend all clubs over no lube
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 04, 2021, 12:14:12 PM
Adam Cerra faces daunting risk vs reward call on possible homecoming

According to his former coach Ross Lyon, Cerra hasn't fully “popped” as a player. While he would be a nice bit of glitter to the current set up, the glitter won't fully disappear if he was to walk. The currency is palpable; the hand Fremantle HQ will either land via draft picks or ready to go tradeable commodities will provide that glitter in buck.

As Lyon eluded to, Cerra hasn't “popped”. He's been considered the long-term Trent Cotchin for the Tigers, who are on the downfall.

Long-term, Cerra will be a magnet synonymous with the centre square. Thus, Cerra has room to fully “pop” and become his own version of the AFL's elite.

Would an immediate arrival to the Tigers in 2022 thwart Cerra's rise? If it were at the Tigers, I'd suggest yes, short-term.

Similarly with a move to the navy blues of Carlton. The pressure is at a premium for a big-time recruit still effectively finding their way​.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-dockers-young-gun-adam-cerra-faces-daunting-risk-or-reward-call-on-possible-homecoming-michael-barlow-c-3298279
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 04, 2021, 12:29:58 PM
Not a player, but would love to see Luke Hodge somewhere in our coaching staff

Been saying this since before he even left Hawyhorn... :shh
Title: Que Cerra: Why Richmond shouldn’t chase Adam Cerra (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on July 04, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Que Cerra: Why Richmond shouldn’t chase Adam Cerra

Jake Niall
The Age
July 4, 2021


Adam Cerra usually makes the right decision with the ball in his hands. In the coming weeks, he will make the most important call of his career to date when he decides where he’ll play after this season.

Theoretically, he has up to 10 potential options - nine Melbourne clubs, plus sticking with Fremantle. In practice, the choice is much narrower, given the salary cap constraints, specific needs and draft capital of the various clubs.

North Melbourne, for instance, won’t be a bidder for Cerra. Their need is for speed and flair and Cerra, a smooth but not swift mover, doesn’t fit it.

Collingwood can be dismissed, since the Pies don’t have either the salary cap room or a first round draft choice in 2021 that could be spent on Cerra.

The Western Bulldogs already have a stacked midfield and a packed salary cap. Forget them.

Melbourne would need to lose someone to find the salary space to accommodate Cerra, who reportedly will command more than $700,000 from the Dockers; certainly, he won’t be moving for less than $600,000.

St Kilda seems more likely to head to the draft this year after splurging on seasoned recruits in 2019-20. Hawthorn can make a play, but they’d be weighing up whether they want to lose their first pick - likely top 5-6 - at the mid-point of a regeneration that is already showing the first green shoots.

That leaves the following options: Carlton, Essendon and Richmond.

Essendon aren’t committed to either the draft or topping up. Does Cerra fit their needs? Debatable. The biggest holes are key defenders (though Zach Reid might be one) - and probably key forward, despite Harrison Jones’s promise.

The Blues have been interested in Cerra, which isn’t surprising in view of their midfield roll call of Sam Walsh and Patrick Cripps, daylight and then? Ed Curnow maybe, or - if you believe in him - eventually Paddy Dow.

But the most fascinating possibility is the Tigers.

Cerra grew up in a yellow and black household, as a Richmond supporter. I’d guess if that if Jack Riewoldt, Dusty Martin and Trent Cotchin importuned him with tales of Richmond exceptionalism, he’d find it hard not to be impressed.

But if Cerra is as shrewd in his decision-making off the field as on, he’d be wise to sidestep the Richmond option, at least this time.

Richmond, who have one of the premier list managers in Blair Hartley, should do likewise. The Tigers should not be chasing Cerra, either.

On the surface, one can see why a union of Cerra and Richmond may hold appeal to both parties: Cerra, at 187cm, has the bigger body that the Tigers don’t have in abundance.

If they snagged Cerra, could it not give them a young, talented midfielder, who’s completed his apprenticeship, helping extend their premiership window, while the fabled core of the 2017-2021 team are still around?

Maybe. That’s the case for Cerra. The case against chasing him, however, is more compelling.

The history of recent AFL dynasties is that they last about five years before the onset of decline - either gradual or rapid - as stars enter their 30s and the draft’s gravitational force drags the super team down.

The Brisbane Lions fell off the cliff in 2005 after four consecutive grand finals.

But the more relevant comparison for the Tigers is the team coached by Damien Hardwick’s close mate, Alastair Clarkson.

In 2016, Hawthorn bowed out in the second week of the finals to the Bulldogs, ending their bid for a fourth consecutive flag.

Faced with a raft of ageing champs, the Hawks made the bold decision to jettison Jordan Lewis (Melbourne) and Sam Mitchell (West Coast, on coaching sabbatical); the following year, Luke Hodge was retired, only to re-animate in Lion colours.

As these club legends shuffled off, the Hawks struck a remarkable trade heist, acquiring both Jaeger O’Meara from the hapless Gold Coast Suns and Tom Mitchell from the Swans.

Mitchell was cheap in draft cost, just pick 14. O’Meara effectively cost the (future) 2017 first rounder, plus Bradley Hill - a hefty price for a midfielder carrying a major knee injury.

Hawthorn can say, rightly, that Mitchell won a Brownlow and when fit, O’Meara is their best player.

But hindsight suggests that the purchase of O’Meara and Mitchell did not fit Hawthorn’s demographic and rebuild imperatives. Five years on, that pair have spent their prime years at a club that’s not contended once for the premiership, only making finals in 2018.

If they see success, it will be in a Shane Crawford-style twilight.

Cerra should be choosing a team that’s on the crest of a success wave (Tom Lynch and Dion Prestia timed it perfectly), not one that’s ridden the glorious breaker.

The Tigers are better placed than Hawthorn of 2016, yes. They’ve got Shai Bolton (22), Jayden Short (25) and Noah Balta (21), plus the likes of Callum Coleman-Jones and largely unproven youngsters from the drafts of 2018-19 and 2020.

But history and list demographics still suggest that they will find it difficult to remain in flag contention after this year.

Riewoldt and Shane Edwards are 33 this October. Cotchin is 31, Dusty turned 30 last week, Dylan Grimes will be 30 this month. David Astbury is 30 and Bachar Houli, at 33, might be finishing up. Even Lynch and Prestia turn 29 in October. Bolton is the only definite A-grader under 25.

One proviso: recruiting Cerra would be more feasible if Cotchin suddenly retired, or in the improbable scenario of Bolton seeking a trade home to Fremantle.

History’s lesson is clear, though. Teams fallen from the heights of multiple flags don’t defy gravity, and the sooner they invest in the draft - the path the Hawks eschewed in 2016, only to end up in a harsher rebuild four years later - the faster they will see a renaissance.

Ok Geelong did levitate, but they’ve had highly unusual circumstances - one is called Patrick Dangerfield, others called Tom Stewart, Tim Kelly and Jeremy Cameron. Even then, they’ve not won a flag since 2011.

For the first time in a while, the Tigers will enter this post-season with a potent draft hand. Their first choice shapes as proximate to 10-12, and they have Geelong’s first pick, plus St Kilda’s second pick and their own.

The logical play for Richmond is to head to the draft.

Fremantle, moreover, probably won’t accept pick 10-12 for Cerra. They’ll demand either a top 5-6 pick or two first rounders. The Tigers shouldn’t jump at that.

What’s Cerra’s best option? He should be sticking with the Dockers for another two seasons, as they seem on the rise. He will have a better range of options if he wants to leave after 2023, or can extend until free agency (2025).

Que Cerra, Cerra. Wherever he’ll be, he’ll be.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/que-cerra-why-richmond-shouldn-t-chase-adam-cerra-20210703-p586jm.html
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 05, 2021, 11:26:37 PM
They were talking about Cerra tonight and Lloyd said instead of paying $750k if I were Richmond I'd be holding onto your picks and head to the draft to pick up the next Cerra that only costs you $80k.

Caro then jumped in and said Richmond needs Tom Green. McClure replied GWS won't want to give up Green. Caro then adds 'well he was dropped two weeks ago' and it would be romantic [if he arrived at Punt Rd]. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2021, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: Tiger71
All I know is that we have to get Green to ask for a trade and nominate us but then GWS have to agree. In saying that, works being done and we have a huge draw as he would love to play for us, its been a dream of his for a long time. We also have what GWS needs in surplus
Quote from: Muddiemoose
If you are shaking one of the gws mids out it’s Taranto I know for a fact he wants to come home to Melbourne and we had been working with his camp about potentially coming to Richmond
This was about 12 months ago now so not sure if we are still in the race but a move to Victoria is definitely on the cards
Source: BigFooty (https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-70917155)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 06, 2021, 06:20:33 PM
I'd take both Taranto and Green.

They can have CCJ + Chol if they want and probably some picks to sweeten the deal because personally I don't think those two are worth much.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 06, 2021, 07:18:04 PM
Speaking on ABC radio, Cerra said various factors would go into his decision.

“For me it’s a bit of everything,” Cerra told ABC Radio.

“Football is just my job at the end of the day. Obviously I love it and I dedicate my life to it but I’ve got a partner and my family and I’ve got to make sure we all feel really comfortable with where I am.

Cerra said he still had ample time to assess his options.

“Obviously, I have a decision to make at the end of the year and I’m sure the time will come when it’s right to sit down and discuss and we’ll sort those things out but at the moment, it’s not at the front of my mind,” he said.

“I’m just trying to enjoy my footy and push for finals this year.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-josh-kelly-essendon-drops-out-of-race-gws-giants-contract-adam-cerra-fremantle-offer/news-story/a1493cc6cb059654d99f176612fb7545
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 06, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
Speaking on ABC radio, Cerra said various factors would go into his decision.

“For me it’s a bit of everything,” Cerra told ABC Radio.

“Football is just my job at the end of the day. Obviously I love it and I dedicate my life to it but I’ve got a partner and my family and I’ve got to make sure we all feel really comfortable with where I am.

Cerra said he still had ample time to assess his options.

“Obviously, I have a decision to make at the end of the year and I’m sure the time will come when it’s right to sit down and discuss and we’ll sort those things out but at the moment, it’s not at the front of my mind,” he said.

“I’m just trying to enjoy my footy and push for finals this year before going to the Tigers and pushing to actually win a flag next year”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-josh-kelly-essendon-drops-out-of-race-gws-giants-contract-adam-cerra-fremantle-offer/news-story/a1493cc6cb059654d99f176612fb7545

EFA  :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on July 06, 2021, 09:34:11 PM
Speaking on ABC radio, Cerra said various factors would go into his decision.

“For me it’s a bit of everything,” Cerra told ABC Radio.

“Football is just my job at the end of the day. Obviously I love it and I dedicate my life to it but I’ve got a partner and my family and I’ve got to make sure we all feel really comfortable with where I am.

Cerra said he still had ample time to assess his options.

“Obviously, I have a decision to make at the end of the year and I’m sure the time will come when it’s right to sit down and discuss and we’ll sort those things out but at the moment, it’s not at the front of my mind,” he said.

“I’m just trying to enjoy my footy and push for finals this year.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-josh-kelly-essendon-drops-out-of-race-gws-giants-contract-adam-cerra-fremantle-offer/news-story/a1493cc6cb059654d99f176612fb7545

If that’s an accurate quote 100% he is leaving
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 06, 2021, 10:02:43 PM
I'd take both Taranto and Green.

They can have CCJ + Chol if they want and probably some picks to sweeten the deal because personally I don't think those two are worth much.
Agree. Get it done.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 08, 2021, 12:09:22 AM
If that’s an accurate quote 100% he is leaving

Yep.

Shame the AFL is still so backwards about trades.

It's business, it's life, it's income etc. Players and clubs need to be more open about it and stop it with the petty crap like Crows telling Lever not to come to the B&F etc haha.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 08, 2021, 02:24:52 AM
Bomber fan on BF:

Trade Scenario:

Western Bulldogs
Gain- Pick 29, 42 and 54
Lose- Pick 18

Richmond Gain- Cerra, Pick 28 and 60
Richmond lose- Chol, Pick 10, 29, 42 and 47

Fremantle Gain- Pick 10, 18 and 47
Fremantle lose- Cerra and pick 28

Gold Coast Gain- Chol
Gold Coast lose- Pick 54 and 60

Richmond receive: Adam Cerra, Pick 28(Frem) and pick 60(GC)
Fremantle Receive: Pick 10(Rich), Pick 18(WB) and pick 47(Rich)
Gold Coast receive: Mabior Chol
Western Bulldogs receive: Pick 29(Rich), Pick 42(Rich) and pick 54(GC)

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-cerra.1254543/post-70931329
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 08, 2021, 06:52:50 AM
Bomber fan on BF:

Trade Scenario:

Western Bulldogs
Gain- Pick 29, 42 and 54
Lose- Pick 18

Richmond Gain- Cerra, Pick 28 and 60
Richmond lose- Chol, Pick 10, 29, 42 and 47

Fremantle Gain- Pick 10, 18 and 47
Fremantle lose- Cerra and pick 28

Gold Coast Gain- Chol
Gold Coast lose- Pick 54 and 60

Richmond receive: Adam Cerra, Pick 28(Frem) and pick 60(GC)
Fremantle Receive: Pick 10(Rich), Pick 18(WB) and pick 47(Rich)
Gold Coast receive: Mabior Chol
Western Bulldogs receive: Pick 29(Rich), Pick 42(Rich) and pick 54(GC)

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-cerra.1254543/post-70931329
Don’t like it👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on July 08, 2021, 08:04:47 AM
As is we’d give that much. Complete BS
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 08, 2021, 08:22:11 AM
I think that's overs for cerra. He's overrated
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MaccaDacca on July 08, 2021, 01:13:56 PM
Chol is an unrestricted free agent - if he goes to GC it wont be part of any trade deal.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 09, 2021, 08:49:01 AM
A caller into SEN this morning: "Narkle to Richmond - take it to the bank".

The guys on SEN then added that Narkle is best mates with Bolton.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 09, 2021, 10:24:58 AM
A caller into SEN this morning: "Narkle to Richmond - take it to the bank".

The guys on SEN then added that Narkle is best mates with Bolton.
Massive NO TO NARKLE
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 09, 2021, 10:47:24 AM
Narkle is shyte.... :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Jobba on July 09, 2021, 01:00:40 PM
All depends on cost and I’m not a massive fan, but if it’s the difference between Bolton going and Bolton staying but on a little less… I know what I’d prefer
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 09, 2021, 01:12:08 PM
That would be the only reason.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on July 09, 2021, 02:02:43 PM
Big pass on Narkle, can find the ball for short spells( no tank after 4 years in the system) and is like a cat when he gets it.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2021, 12:50:07 PM
Fremantle great Matthew Pavlich is confident that young midfielder Adam Cerra will re-sign with the Dockers.

Cerra comes out of contract at the end of the season and is reportedly attracting interest from Victorian clubs, including Carlton and Richmond.

“I think Adam Cerra’s going to stay,” Pavlich told SEN WA’s Gilly and Goss.

“All the talk is that as the year goes on and the end of the season nears, everyone’s saying that he’s going to go.

“I have the contrary view. I think he’ll stay, Adam Cerra. That’s for no other reason that they’re building something pretty impressive down there at Fremantle, and I think he wants to be part of that.

“It may not be the four-year or the five-year longer-term deal that everyone at Fremantle would like him to sign, but it might be a shorter contract.

“I think he’ll stay, and I think he should stay. Get himself to that free agency window and then he can make that call.

Ex-Dockers skipper Pavlich has encouraged his former club to lure Geelong’s Jordan Clark and Richmond’s Shai Bolton back to Western Australia.

Clark is contracted to the Cats for 2022, while Bolton remains unsigned beyond this year.

“In terms of trading, Freo should absolutely still go after the likes of (Jordan) Clark and (Shai) Bolton from Western Australia to get them home and play for the Dockers,” Pavlich said.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/12/fremantle-great-confident-cerra-will-stay-encourages-double-swoop-on-wa/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Rival clubs are reportedly circling Port Adelaide ruckman Peter Ladhams, believing he could be gettable despite being contracted until the end of next year.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-casualty-ward-injury-list-after-round-17-injury-news-returns-charlie-curnow-eric-hipwood-hugh-greenwood/news-story/f8b32b44ff20958c0029852eab928b10?recommendedCount=0

------------------------------------------

Patrick Lipinski is attracting attention from a host of rival clubs, with four making their interest known.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/follow-all-the-latest-trade-draft-and-contract-news-across-the-afl/news-story/14ef3ee8699d9a6f05ec00140610aa8e
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2021, 07:29:56 PM
Most likely wishful thinking but according to Caro Tom Green's grandmother wants him at Tigerland and is regularly calling Benny Gale.

7:30 min mark: https://omny.fm/shows/real-footy/they-just-looked-shot
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 13, 2021, 08:20:52 PM
Most likely wishful thinking but according to Caro Tom Green's grandmother wants him at Tigerland and is regularly calling Benny Gale.

7:30 min mark: https://omny.fm/shows/real-footy/they-just-looked-shot

What a fine woman she is then!
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Chuck17 on July 13, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
Make her Prez
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 14, 2021, 10:45:09 PM
Lapinski makes Jack Graham look like Usain Bolt... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2021, 02:35:13 AM
List managers estimate that for clubs to break even in 2022, the salary cap needs to increase by more than $110,000 and $250,000 when triggers and clauses are taken into account.

So what does all this mean for clubs during the trade period?

Through no fault of their own, clubs are more strapped for cash than they anticipated. Player agents believe Sydney, Brisbane, West Coast, Collingwood, Melbourne, Geelong and Richmond have almost no scope to target high-priced recruits in 2021.

As one list manager said on Wednesday: “The reality is most clubs don’t have much money to spend at the moment.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-afl-club-salary-cap-medical-sub-players-most-times-started-as-medical-sub/news-story/fd974bdfe76f58355a9abacd3d94ab5d
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 15, 2021, 03:21:10 AM
So they already know who's still going to be on our list next year and all the pay structures do they? :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 15, 2021, 04:39:18 PM
Adelaide will entertain offers for two of its star free agents, Matt Crouch and Daniel Talia.

Rival clubs, particularly those based in Victoria (where Crouch and Talia grew up) have this week become aware of Adelaide’s willingness to let them walk out of the club.

Senior sources at Adelaide have also told The Age that versatile veteran Tom Lynch is also unlikely to be offered a new contract, which has raised eyebrows among some teammates.

Neither Crouch (groin) nor Talia (foot) have played this season as they deal with ongoing injuries and both are in the final years of their contract.

Rival clubs told The Age on Wednesday that both players would be valued at approximately second-round draft picks, mainly due to Crouch’s injury history and Talia’s age.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-eye-docker-experienced-crows-up-for-grabs-20210714-p589lf.html
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on July 15, 2021, 04:43:46 PM
True,It does depend if someone is traded or if an unexpected retirement and even if the contracts are mismanaged ( see Collingwood) we also need to to allow for pay rises
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 15, 2021, 11:28:50 PM
Based on tonight wouldn't be offering Freo any more than a 4th rounder for Cerra...4 quarters of softcock ball watching that would do Menadud proud...as for Narkle - looked ok in a easy win but if that's his best than he'd be nothing more than a slight upgrade on Aarts..... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on July 16, 2021, 12:00:02 AM
Based on tonight wouldn't be offering Freo any more than a 4th rounder for Cerra...4 quarters of softcock ball watching that would do Menadud proud...as for Narkle - looked ok in a easy win but if that's his best than he'd be nothing more than a slight upgrade on Aarts..... :shh

Totally agree I hope we haven't sold the house for him.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 16, 2021, 12:11:34 AM
Maybe he's tanking his value because he wants to come over.

Green too.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 16, 2021, 12:18:51 AM
Adelaide will entertain offers for two of its star free agents, Matt Crouch and Daniel Talia.

Rival clubs, particularly those based in Victoria (where Crouch and Talia grew up) have this week become aware of Adelaide’s willingness to let them walk out of the club.

Senior sources at Adelaide have also told The Age that versatile veteran Tom Lynch is also unlikely to be offered a new contract, which has raised eyebrows among some teammates.

Neither Crouch (groin) nor Talia (foot) have played this season as they deal with ongoing injuries and both are in the final years of their contract.

Rival clubs told The Age on Wednesday that both players would be valued at approximately second-round draft picks, mainly due to Crouch’s injury history and Talia’s age.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-eye-docker-experienced-crows-up-for-grabs-20210714-p589lf.html

How bad are these injuries? Groin and foot. Historically they have both been quite durable.

Crouch just turned 26 so you'd think he has 4-5 years in him. Talia almost 30, maybe 1-2 years.

If they could get fit and come cheap with second round picks I'd consider blokes of their caliber if we decide to have a go at 2022. We have two second round picks and the Cats pick is looking quite low at this stage. But only if we think we're a chance next year. If not, go the draft.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on July 16, 2021, 10:30:54 AM
No to Cerra.

Open to Narkle at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 16, 2021, 03:12:40 PM
Pavlova saying he'll re-sign with Freo for another two years.... :shh

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on July 16, 2021, 04:54:43 PM
Pavlova saying he'll re-sign with Freo for another two years.... :shh

Good take him up to free agency and then he can come to us gratis
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 17, 2021, 01:37:48 PM
DOCKER CAUGHT IN TWO MINDS

Carlton and Richmond are at the head of the queue for Fremantle’s Adam Cerra, but the Dockers push for finals continues to give him serious food for thought.

Cerra is still likely to ask for a trade, but some confidantes are suggesting if he is genuinely 50-50 on returning home he could still sign a two-year deal with the Dockers rather than the four they have offered.

Cerra is split between returning to a Victorian-based family that he has barely seen since the Covid issues started and staying at a club that is going places.

Cerra loves coach Justin Longmuir, is enjoying playing with his Freo teammates and has finally been thrust into a pure midfield role rather than half-forward or wing.

Carlton is reported to have offered around $2.8 million over four seasons, with the Dockers offering as much as $3 million.
Former Fremantle captain Matthew Pavlich told Fox Footy on Thursday night he believed Cerra should stay given the club’s emerging midfield.

“Despite the loss tonight, I think the Dockers are trending in the right direction with that young group that’s come through together with Brayshaw, Serong, Darcy and Cerra himself,” Pavlich said.

“I think he should stay for a couple more years and see it through.

“Clearly that’s a bit of a biased perspective having done it myself a couple of times and seen it through, but I think it’s important for him and the club to at least go a couple more years and see where that gets the club to.”

COULD CAT BECOME NEXT HIDDEN GEM?

Could Charlie Constable become the next Jarryd Lyons?

That’s what rival clubs continue to consider as the out-of-favour Cat slays his VFL opponents on a weekly basis.

Lyons was considered too slow by many when he started out at Adelaide and yet carved out an exceptional career after finding his way to Brisbane via the Gold Coast.

Constable’s pace has also come under scrutiny, but he has averaged 120 ranking points, 32 disposals and seven clearances in the VFL this year.

As one rival footy manager said of him last week: “He’s just too good to be playing VFL.”

He is out of contract this year but last October there were few interested parties at AFL level.

At just 22, surely there are enough clubs who need a flint-hard clearance expert for someone to offer him a chance elsewhere?

WHY TRADE PERIOD COULD FALL FLAT
This year’s trade period could be one of the greater fizzers on record.

AFL list managers and players managers continue to push the same message.

Only a handful of clubs have any spare cap space given most have deferred some of this year’s pay cuts into subsequent years — as allowed by the league.

The continued Covid crisis means a competition-wide pay rise is off the agenda, so player agents attempting to move their clients continue to be told there just isn’t money available.

Clubs such as Brisbane have so much depth on their lists they are struggling to find three players to delist at season’s end.
Players coming off excellent seasons are being told to accept contracts with bases of around $200,000 and match payments because there just isn’t room for them elsewhere.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-trade-contract-and-draft-news-across-the-afl/news-story/49ee36f7ac1984fc0fba700f6f86b3d7
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: mightytiges on July 17, 2021, 04:52:35 PM
Carlton and Richmond are at the head of the queue for Fremantle’s Adam Cerra, but the Dockers push for finals continues to give him serious food for thought.

Carlton is reported to have offered around $2.8 million over four seasons, with the Dockers offering as much as $3 million.
$700k-750k a season is an extraordinary amount for Cerra  :o. His numbers have jumped up this year (avg 22 disposals) which is why this amount of money is being thrown around but from the Freo games I've watched I don't really notice him in terms of doing damage to the opposition with his possessions. He's no goalkicking mid that's for sure.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/A/Adam_Cerra.html
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on July 17, 2021, 05:09:27 PM
No for me , At that price it would make sense to go to the draft so we can keep our existing players
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on July 17, 2021, 05:22:53 PM
Trade our 2nd & 3rd round picks to dogs for their first.  Have 3 first rounder's
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 17, 2021, 06:49:17 PM
Latest BF rumour is that we're in to Dunstan....also recall a few rumours last year tying us to Lemmens from Gold Coast (was probably brought up as a potential swap for Markov) ...looks a pretty handy player...  :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on July 17, 2021, 06:59:27 PM
Wouldn’t mind Dunstan. He’s starting to show a bit.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 17, 2021, 08:22:53 PM
Cerra 700 get outta here.

Save the money and use it to keep guys like Bolton.

Dunstan would be useful on a wing.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on July 18, 2021, 11:15:47 AM
Dunstan makes Caddy look like Usain Bolt.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 18, 2021, 11:22:42 AM
Dunstan makes Caddy look like Usain Bolt.
Well he slaughtered us when we played them the other week. He had an outstanding game.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on July 18, 2021, 11:47:21 AM
No to Narkle the bloke still has a poor tank after five seasons, we already have RCD who hasn't developed an AFL standard tank after three preseasons but he is way still ahead of Narkle.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: taztiger4 on July 18, 2021, 02:41:38 PM
No to Narkle the bloke still has a poor tank after five seasons, we already have RCD who hasn't developed an AFL standard tank after four seasons but he is way still ahead of Narkle.

This is RCDs 3rd season, was drafted Nov 2018, so he has been listed for less than 32 months
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on July 18, 2021, 04:35:51 PM
No to Narkle the bloke still has a poor tank after five seasons, we already have RCD who hasn't developed an AFL standard tank after four seasons but he is way still ahead of Narkle.

This is RCDs 3rd season, was drafted Nov 2018, so he has been listed for less than 32 months

Post adjusted thanks.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 18, 2021, 07:16:45 PM
Last year was pretty much a write off for RCD in regards to building match fitness so he's really only in his second season proper.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2021, 01:13:04 AM
Trade latest: Big calls facing powerhouse clubs

Richmond is eyeing off Adam Cerra but also has a hot draft hand that could land them a Power sized haul. Check out the latest in our trade and free agency special.

HeraldSun
21 July 2021


Richmond has the potential for the Port Adelaide-style draft heist that secured the Power Connor Rozee, Zac Butters and Xavier Duursma with its massive arsenal of early picks.

The club’s five picks within 42 selections have been well-scrutinised, but what does it actually mean from a draft value?

The Tigers have pick 10, pick 16 (tied to Geelong), pick 27 (their own second-rounder), pick 29 (tied to St Kilda) and pick 42 (tied to Gold Coast).

Those picks add up to 4213 draft points — which is in effect the draft collateral they have to trade into earlier picks or multiple first-rounders.

Port Adelaide went bang in the 2018 national draft, securing Rozee (pick 5), Butters (pick 12) and Duursma (pick 18) after deciding to trade out stars Chad Wingard and Jared Polec.

The value of those three picks five, 12 and 18 — 4131 points.

The beauty of Port’s draft haul was nailing all three picks as well as grabbing Ryan Burton from Hawthorn in the trade haul.

It was also was the club’s confidence it could secure players that would hit the ground running that allowed it to rise up the ladder again.

So the Tigers can go one of two ways:

Give up multiple first rounders — something like 10 and 27 — if they want to secure Fremantle’s Adam Cerra in a trade.

Or back in their recruiter Matthew Clark to bring in the new wave of stars.

Clark is part of a recruiting team that has nailed the likes of Shai Bolton (pick 29), Noah Balta (pick 25), Jack Graham (pick 53), Sydney Stack, Marlion Pickett and the latest in mid-season recruit Matt Parker.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-trade-contract-and-draft-news-across-the-afl/news-story/8397bd64736f64abd49486e491a70227
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 21, 2021, 07:56:51 AM
Should be able to find talent with all of those picks. Don't think we need to trade up the draft but I wouldn't be upset if we did.

Also find the Rozee, Duursma and Butters trio to be grossly overrated myself.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on July 21, 2021, 07:57:53 AM
Go to draft and sign Cerra in 2 years as a free agent
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 21, 2021, 09:53:08 AM
Just go to the draft Tigers, use those picks

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 21, 2021, 12:39:13 PM
ON BF they're saying Daniel Howe from Hawthorn wants out and has nominated us...apparently Tom Morris mentioned it a few weeks ago....hope it's not true...from what I've seen bloke's basically downgrade on McIntosh ..though his main claim to fame is getting 5 weeks for belting Cripps and tripping Fisher and breaking his leg in the same match against the Scumbaggers...so guess that's a plus...#RichmondMan :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on July 21, 2021, 01:09:15 PM
I hope we go to the draft. Should we pick up one or two players without giving away our draft hand, it's a win.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 21, 2021, 02:29:20 PM
Forget Cerra for now....Dunstan FA & hit the draft.....late pick/rookie Josh Green, Freeman & Schlensong , maybe McDonough of the VFL list...of course if Tom Green is getable everything changes.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on July 21, 2021, 02:40:11 PM
Yes to Cerra for one pick only.  If not go to draft and use 2 of the second rounders to get another first.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2021, 02:50:32 PM
Essendon has re-signed Jake Stringer on a 3-year deal with clauses for a 4th year. No mention of $$$.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-19-2021-news-team-whispers-selection-updates-ins-and-outs-supercoach-news/news-story/f9f9dbd7080d4ada0a8162afcd1f0b35
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on July 21, 2021, 03:09:20 PM
Typical, stringer has started playing well with his contract expiring.

What's the bet he goes back into his hole the way Dixon does.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2021, 06:04:43 PM
Narkle omitted again by Geelong.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on July 23, 2021, 09:01:41 PM
Narkle omitted again by Geelong.

Probably worried he'll stuff up the audition.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 25, 2021, 07:17:30 AM
From BF:

He [Cerra]'s told Carlton he's not interested. It's us [Richmond] or stay at Freo.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-cerra.1254543/post-71208641

Caddy is off to North or wants to get to North. Knows he isn’t a wingman.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-71216065
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 25, 2021, 09:57:02 AM
From BF:

He [Cerra]'s told Carlton he's not interested. It's us [Richmond] or stay at Freo.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-cerra.1254543/post-71208641

Caddy is off to North or wants to get to North. Knows he isn’t a wingman to Dusty any longer.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-71216065
EFA
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 25, 2021, 03:03:18 PM
Cerra - 26 disposals & 2 goals. Mind you had a couple of turnovers too.

David King reckons he's leaving the Dockers.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 25, 2021, 03:09:37 PM
Fremantle are reportedly keen to lure Sam Petrevski-Seton back to his home state of Western Australia, according to The Herald Sun.

The report states that it’s possible Petrevski-Seton could be included in potential talks for Docker Adam Cerra – who along with Bulldog Patrick Lipinski – was believed to have been part of Carlton’s list management discussions late this week.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-gold-coast-suns-pick-trading-pick-brad-johnson-saturday-stretch-petrevskiseton-contract-fremantle-dockers-out-of-contract-players/news-story/7d224183a7eac71e4a83ff12c3296587
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on July 25, 2021, 03:13:20 PM
If he comes to Richmond I hope we don’t pay overs, he is handy but a at this stage a B grader
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 27, 2021, 04:32:27 PM
Carlton’s pursuit of Adam Cerra has hit a snag as the midfielder looks for a path out of Fremantle.

Cerra has let dust gather on the Dockers’ four-year offer worth up to $750,000 a season. He is keen on a return home to Victoria where the Blues, Richmond and Hawthorn have emerged as the likely options.

Essendon is not in the frame.

It’s understood money is the main sticking point for the Blues, who have recently re-signed Patrick Cripps and Harry McKay to lucrative deals and have emerging superstar Sam Walsh to re-sign before the end of next season.

While some claim a Cerra move to the Blues is now off, people at Carlton believe the flame is still flickering.

As things stand, Carlton hold pick 6 in the national draft, with their next selection not coming until 25.

Cerra, 21, would command at least a first-round pick given Fremantle took him at No.5 in the 2017 national draft. He finished third in the Dockers’ best and fairest last year.

While it is a heavy draft price to pay after giving up their first-round selection for Adam Saad last year, a need to balance the salary cap is the primary obstacle for Carlton in the Cerra negotiations.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/26/carltons-pursuit-of-adam-cerra-has-hit-a-snag/

---------------------------

Out-of-contract Geelong midfielder Charlie Constable is certain to depart the club at the end of 2021 if a rival suitor emerges, according to SEN Chief Sports Reporter Sam Edmund.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/27/out-of-there-cats-midfielder-to-depart-if-suitable-rival-offer-emerges/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on July 27, 2021, 06:19:35 PM
Forget Cerra if he's just after money. 
Go all in on Tom Green 🍏.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 27, 2021, 10:21:43 PM
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/4ea9f788-a8e5-4ee8-8e36-49a5f55739a0-jpeg.1188642/)
https://twitter.com/SENBreakfast/status/1419779129835089926
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2021, 05:44:03 PM
Asked how many clubs had inquired about Narkle, his manager Ralph Carr said: “Around five clubs … all have been very professional and respectful.”

Carr said he had spoken to Narkle about the interest from rival clubs “in passing”, but he stressed no decision would be made on his future until the end of the season.

“The main focus is playing well for Geelong and helping Geelong to win a premiership,” Carr said.

“Geelong have been fantastic in terms of working together to get the most important result — Quinton playing great footy.

“Andrew Mackie and Shaun Grigg have been great (for him).”

Narkle has played 13 games for the Cats this year — for a total of 30 career games since his 2018 debut — but Geelong’s great strength has meant he has sometimes been overlooked at selection, to the surprise of many.

Asked what sort of asset Narkle would be to another club, Carr said: “If he moved … yes, it’s hard to get inside mids that can go forward as well and kick goals.

“He has the ability to find the ball and he will only get better. I am a huge fan of Quinton’s.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-trade-contract-and-draft-news-across-the-afl/news-story/b2d4c0a739225d263c75157cfb55361a
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on July 28, 2021, 10:16:25 PM
DOCKERS ‘POSITIVE’ YOUNG GUN WILL STAY

Fremantle is confident that out-of-contract young gun Adam Cerra will re-sign with the club.

The Dockers have reportedly put a four-year deal worth around $750,000 to the 21-year old as Victorian rivals circle looking to lure him home.

Speaking on Triple M Perth’s Rush Hour WA, Fremantle football boss Peter Bell was “really positive” Cerra would remain at the helm.

“I’m sure there’s a lot of people – ourselves included – we’d love to hear Adam’s decision, but he’s taking his time with that,” Bell said.

“What we see is a really invested player in our program. He’s driving to help us perform each week.

“I’m really positive that Adam will continue with us, but we want to respect his space to be able to make that decision.”

Asked if he’s had direct conversations with Cerra about his plans, Bell said: “Through his management, he’s still making his decision. He hasn’t said he’s leaving, he hasn’t said he’s staying, he’s making his decision.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-brayden-maynard-contract-pre-agent-clubs-interested-list-of-free-agents-adam-cerra-victorian-teams-collingwood-magpies-fremantle-dockers/news-story/fb10550d64e823218438242ce659ad8f
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 01, 2021, 06:04:03 AM
Brad Johnson says Hawthorn should be open to any rival club trade offers that could come for Luke Breust and Jack Gunston as the club enters a new era.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-luke-breust-gold-coast-suns-jack-gunston-collingwood-jordan-de-goey-contract/news-story/568910617e43674afdd7549b84952567
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 01, 2021, 12:50:22 PM
 Aarse & Cantkickit for Bruest & Gunston... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 01, 2021, 12:53:23 PM
Bruest still looks the goods.

Is Gunston going to get on the park soon?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 01, 2021, 01:16:09 PM
Dunno- would still trade both just for Bruest tbh... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 01, 2021, 01:36:54 PM
Rankine out of favour at our youth development team.  :shh

I reckon we get him over to punt rd and see him flourish in our environment.  :rollin
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 01, 2021, 02:29:55 PM
We need midfield depth
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 01, 2021, 03:26:56 PM
Would take Rankine in heartbeat.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 01, 2021, 06:48:05 PM
No trades this year. That would be silly with this draft hand. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Thrasher97 on August 01, 2021, 10:13:53 PM
On Big Footy, they were talking Cerra, What do you guys think?
Personally I don't think he's worth a first and the cap space would be too much.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: FooffooValve on August 01, 2021, 10:21:59 PM
On Big Footy, they were talking Cerra, What do you guys think?
Personally I don't think he's worth a first and the cap space would be too much.

Might depend on retirements...
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 01, 2021, 10:31:46 PM
If there are free agents on the table that can improve us then make a play for them. Otherwise hit the draft hard! Need a couple of midfield jets with our first picks and then the best key position forward and defender at our next 2.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 01, 2021, 10:32:23 PM
Green if he requests a trade (unlikely this year)the only player I'd chuck high picks at :shh

Narkle no more than third if helps keep Bolton, no point otherwise, if Bolton leaves then we ask for Cerra I guess but would prefer the picks tbh...though wouldn't mind if they chucked in Griffin Logue...more likely we'd ask for Tucker from what's been said in the past ....presuming Freo is where Bolton is headed ofc.... :shh

Wouldn't object to Dunstan FA if cheap.... :shh

Breust at minmum cost (upgrade on Aabbot & Castello for a year or two while MRJ develops).... :shh

Only other trades should be for more picks and higher picks.... :shh

NO to junk like Will Brodie.....rather just rookie Freeman..... :shh



Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 01, 2021, 11:13:56 PM
Richmond's season might be shot but there were signs today the Tiger era might not be over just yet - and one of them was playing for the opposition.

https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1421793904643297281
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 02, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
Of course it's all very well to hit the draft but will Hardwick actually play the new kids given he's generally loath to play the current crop and has been mostly reluctant over his tenure to play youngsters unless forced to by injuries....can just see him persisting with the likes of  Parker & Aarts or some mature aged late/rookie pick like say,  Freeman (or Brodie  :help) getting games ahead of the kid we take with pick 8 or wherever.. :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 02, 2021, 05:34:48 PM
Tom Morris thinks both Andrew Gaff and Elliot Yeo should be put on the trade table.

“They’ve got to make some tough calls at the end of the year. I’d be going to Andrew Gaff and saying: ‘Do you want to go back to Victoria? We can get something for you now,’” he said.

“He’s contracted until the end of 2024 which makes it hard, but these are the tough calls you need to make if you’re going to rebound and actually get some young talent in.

“Elliot Yeo – he’s contracted for another two years – what can you get for him? Surely no one’s off the table if you’re having a rebuild?”

----------------------------------------------------

Kane Cornes said there’s a salary cap “squeeze” at the Cats and that he’s interested to see how Cameron Guthrie’s situation plays out.

“Unrestricted free agent, so let’s watch this with real interest.

Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/west-coast-eagles/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-west-coast-stars-andrew-gaff-future-contract-victorian-clubs-elliot-yeo-rebuild-cam-guthrie-free-agency-suitors-leaving-geelong-cats-eddie-betts-playing-on-carlton-blues/news-story/f6ff246aeaaf0f6db0e5b941085fdb05)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 02, 2021, 05:48:21 PM
Hmmm Guthrie UFA....Geelong flog or not...I'd do it if we had the space...their best mid IMO...(yes I include Dangerflop, Duckwood & Duncan in that) :shh

EDIT: Didn't realise he was nearly 30......thought he was about 27....(https://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_neutral.gif)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gigantor on August 02, 2021, 09:17:02 PM
Everyone’s nearly 30 at the cattery
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on August 02, 2021, 09:30:00 PM
Our future first for Green.
2nd rounder to Dogs for their future first.
Cerra for Cats first and player.
2nd and 3rd for Dogs first this year.

Green, Cerra, two firsts this year and a third.
Still have a first next year.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 02, 2021, 09:54:58 PM
Our future first for Green.
2nd rounder to Dogs for their future first.
Cerra for Cats first and player.
2nd and 3rd for Dogs first this year.

Green, Cerra, two firsts this year and a third.
Still have a first next year.
Can you come up with an option that does not include Cerra?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 02, 2021, 09:58:17 PM
Tom Morris on OTC said Stephens & Dawson from the Swanettes both getable...:shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on August 03, 2021, 07:04:55 AM
Our future first for Green.
2nd rounder to Dogs for their future first.
Cerra for Cats first and player.
2nd and 3rd for Dogs first this year.

Green, Cerra, three firsts this year and a third.
Still have a first next year.
Can you come up with an option that does not include Cerra?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2021, 04:43:00 PM
Gerard Healy has cautioned out-of-contract young gun Adam Cerra against departing the rising Fremantle Dockers.

Cerra is currently weighing up his future with a four-year deal worth around $750,000 a season on the table from the Dockers as several Victorian rivals including the Blues, Tigers and Hawks look to lure him home.

It comes during a career-best season for the 21-year old – averaging career highs across the board in disposals (23.1), marks (5.2), inside 50s (4.8) and clearances (3.4).

Speaking on Fox Footy’s On The Couch, Healy was bullish about Fremantle’s future, calling for Cerra to think twice about leaving the club.

“Message for you Adam Cerra: Look before you leap,” Healy said.

“There is something building over there at the Fremantle Dockers and we all want to be part of an uprising that goes on and wins a flag.

“If you have to go you have to go, but gee, you’d be leaving a big opportunity.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-luke-parkers-future-cameron-guthrie-free-agency-contracts-suitors-adam-cerra-fremantle-dockers/news-story/169ea0a3019c12dc35548465ab1fd550
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2021, 05:48:37 PM
BF poster claiming "we are still keen on Dunstan as that bullocking mid we lack".
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 03, 2021, 06:56:56 PM
Sydney‘s salary cap squeeze has left them vulnerable … and six stars are in rivals’ sights.

Luke Parker
Jordan Dawson
George Hewitt
Dylan Stephens
Sam Reid
Oliver Florent

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/sydney-swans/afl-news-2021-sydney-swans-trades-rumours-players-out-of-contract-luke-parkers-future-buddy-franklin-george-hewett-jordan-dawson-dylan-stephens-sam-reid-oliver-florent/news-story/7f68306285abf2094dfe495e0e39aff5
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 04, 2021, 01:30:37 PM
I'm hearing Sparkle Narkle is all but confirmed coming to us.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 04, 2021, 01:38:55 PM
Would take any of those Sydney players bar Reid for the right price... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 04, 2021, 01:48:54 PM
Would take any of those Sydney players bar Reid for the right price... :shh

Agree. Som quality in that bunch.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 04, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Would take any of those Sydney players bar Reid for the right price... :shh

Agree. Som quality in that bunch.

X3
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 04, 2021, 02:56:54 PM
I just hope we hit the draft with our hand we need some youth. Ok if the right player comes along for the right price.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: torch on August 04, 2021, 03:05:21 PM
I just hope we hit the draft with our hand we need some youth. Ok if the right player comes along for the right price.

100% correct!

Draft youth, look at Cheatdon!
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 04, 2021, 03:14:03 PM
Tom Morris on Fox Footy:

“West Coast, Geelong and Richmond – this is obvious. These clubs are towards the top of the tree and have been in the last couple of years and have re-signed a lot of players and got a lot of talent on their list. They can’t be too active in terms of bringing talented players to the club and will have to be smart in the way they go about it.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-collingwood-salary-squeeze-essendon-cap-nathan-kreuger-collingwood-sydney-stack/news-story/332e944751a9f6a4833c93e6a362a12c
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 04, 2021, 04:57:41 PM
Callum Twomey & Mitch Cleary talking about Cerra.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/659159/cerra-s-wait-giant-talks-go-quiet-young-swan-on-clubs-radar

- Don't believe Cerra has made a decision yet. Clubs don't know yet what he is doing. But the view is he is leaving Freo.
- Best financial offer may be Freo's.
- Given he was drafted at pick 5, he is worth at least one possibly two first round picks.
- Front of the queue is Carlton and Richmond.
- North & Hawthorn would be interested also but hard to see them giving up their respective early first round pick.
- Carlton may be reluctant to trade their first round pick after trading a first rounder for Saad last year. There's also the question of salary cap. That goes for all the clubs. Who has got the money?
- Richmond has shot into the equation for Cerra given their trade last year with Geelong which has given the Tigers two first rounders.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 05, 2021, 07:04:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CxPaZnA.jpg)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on August 05, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Have a look at what Bolton interview , there was a hint there.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2021, 05:33:15 PM
Greater Western Sydney forward Jake Riccardi is weighing up whether to accept a contract offer from the Giants or explore his options elsewhere.

Given the lack of young key forwards on the market, suitors in Riccardi's home state of Victoria are expected to closely track his end to the season.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/659255/bobby-talks-begin-eagle-contract-unclear-call-on-luckless-saint-close

Whispers around that we are interested in Riccardi.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 06, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
CCJ replacement? :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 06, 2021, 09:16:58 PM
Watching the Puddytats tonight...surely we won't be giving up anymore than third rounder for Narkle to just jog around in the background....not as if we don't already have Chol for that.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 06, 2021, 09:57:42 PM
Would prefer to chase Riccardi than effing Narkle.

Surely we can do better.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on August 06, 2021, 10:31:48 PM
Looks like Narkle hasn’t got his heart in it for Geelong.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 06, 2021, 10:36:04 PM
Narkle has a heart? :shh

Riccardi not much better in a winning side... :shh :shh

When's Taylor out of contract? Gun.. :shh :shh :shh

Hopefully GWS will start thinking they don't need Tom Green to win now... :santa

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 06, 2021, 11:32:35 PM
Dio you've been plugging Taylor for yonks and I saw his absolutely towel up Porkins tonight. Was BOG for me.

Very unassuming sort of lad in the post game interview.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 06, 2021, 11:42:56 PM
Best young key defender in the game for mine....imagine pairing him up with Balta for the next decade.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 07, 2021, 01:08:55 AM
Watching the Puddytats tonight...surely we won't be giving up anymore than third rounder for Narkle to just jog around in the background....not as if we don't already have Chol for that.... :shh
👍🏿
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2021, 07:26:21 AM
 :thumbsup :thumbsup

Who ever thought Narkle was any good? He is embarrassing.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 07, 2021, 11:12:11 AM
:thumbsup :thumbsup

Who ever thought Narkle was any good? He is embarrassing.

Poor game last night but he had the most clearances on the ground against us and has been good in other games.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2021, 11:20:19 AM
yes, against us, which is a team they beat by 70 points.

In a team thats bottom 8 like we are at the minute, he would be exposed even more, and would quickly become the whipping boy.

Pass, unless he is rookied or replaces someone like Arts.







Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 07, 2021, 01:59:36 PM
Best young key defender in the game for mine....imagine pairing him up with Balta for the next decade.... :shh

Problem is his a WA boy Taylor.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 07, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
We need to regenerate our midfield. We need 2 a grade mids. We need 1 key forward and 1 key Back and s couple of high quality utilities.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: TigerLand on August 07, 2021, 05:49:31 PM
Mids are biggest area of need.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 07, 2021, 05:50:43 PM
We need to upgrade our picks. We need 2 high end picks yo get the 2 best mids we can in the draft.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 09, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
Hmmm....

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-71495590


 :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 09, 2021, 12:53:23 PM
So another BF poster reckons the rumour about RCD pushing fur a trade  (see link in  post above) is "100% not true"... :shh

In other news...the sexual assault charges against De Goey have been dropped with police ordered to pay costs.......still hasn't re-signed..... :shh :shh


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2021, 01:17:08 PM
So another BF poster reckons the rumour about RCD pushing fur a trade  (see link in  post above) is "100% not true"... :shh


Which would be correct
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: the claw on August 09, 2021, 04:37:38 PM
Dio you've been plugging Taylor for yonks and I saw his absolutely towel up Porkins tonight. Was BOG for me.

Very unassuming sort of lad in the post game interview.
Only trouble is GWS will do absolutely everything in their power to keep him. They have put in 4 yrs of development he is just 22 and their key defender stocks are getting thin and are aging like ours.Would say he is crucial to their near future.

Prising players out of there will become  a thing of the past as those who are regulars have stayed loyal and so many are from their zone now days. One Victorian id like to have a crack at is Tim Taranto.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 09, 2021, 07:39:32 PM
What’s the difference in your logic between Taylor and Taranto?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 09, 2021, 08:47:20 PM
If we can get a decent return for RCD I wouldn't be too disappointed. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2021, 09:00:30 PM
If we can get a decent return for RCD I wouldn't be too disappointed.

You're assuming he wants to be traded and the club wants to trade him

No on  the both counts
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2021, 06:18:55 AM
BF podcast is claiming an announcement saying Cerra is leaving Freo will be made sometime next week. He also reckons we are in the box seat to get Cerra as Carlton have been told no twice and Essendon don't have the cap space. He also claims Bolton took unders so we could get Cerra.

Go to last 5 mins: https://twitter.com/BFtigercast/status/1424679516350259209
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: OneEyedRichmond on August 10, 2021, 09:41:48 AM
BF podcast is claiming an announcement saying Cerra is leaving Freo will be made sometime next week. He also reckons we are in the box seat to get Cerra as Carlton have been told no twice and Essendon don't have the cap space. He also claims Bolton took unders so we could get Cerra.

Go to last 5 mins: https://twitter.com/BFtigercast/status/1424679516350259209

I don’t think t71 said Bolton took unders for Cerra?? ..
I believe he meant for someone else that he will announce in their trade podcast 😉…
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 10, 2021, 09:54:48 AM
BF podcast is claiming an announcement saying Cerra is leaving Freo will be made sometime next week. He also reckons we are in the box seat to get Cerra as Carlton have been told no twice and Essendon don't have the cap space. He also claims Bolton took unders so we could get Cerra.

Go to last 5 mins: https://twitter.com/BFtigercast/status/1424679516350259209

I don’t think t71 said Bolton took unders for Cerra?? ..
I believe he meant for someone else that he will announce in their trade podcast 😉…

After watching him play against us, I'm onboard the Cerra train.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 10, 2021, 11:20:53 AM
Get the other Tom Lynch here asap.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 10, 2021, 11:23:49 AM
Dio you've been plugging Taylor for yonks and I saw his absolutely towel up Porkins tonight. Was BOG for me.

Very unassuming sort of lad in the post game interview.
Only trouble is GWS will do absolutely everything in their power to keep him. They have put in 4 yrs of development he is just 22 and their key defender stocks are getting thin and are aging like ours.Would say he is crucial to their near future.

Prising players out of there will become  a thing of the past as those who are regulars have stayed loyal and so many are from their zone now days. One Victorian id like to have a crack at is Tim Taranto.



Only hope would be if he asked for the trade and we gave up something decent.

Would you include CCJ in a trade?

Would be keen on Taylor and Green. Would cost but probably worth it. I imagine our first pick + CCJ at least, probably more.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2021, 06:10:32 PM
Josh Kelly off the table.


Josh Kelly will play out his career at Greater Western Sydney, having triggered the lucrative eight-year extension within his contract on Tuesday.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/662933/giant-for-life-kelly-inks-monster-contract-extension
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2021, 06:15:31 PM
Good...will make it harder for them to hang on to others... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2021, 11:35:01 PM
From BF:

Remember when I posted about 6 months ago that we [Richmond] were into Taranto
Things are getting interesting

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-71521144

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From the Carlton BF board:

Jack Ross from Richmond could be put up for trade by The Tigers ? Could be another fairly cheap pick up like Fogarty that could improve our midfield depth ?

Still only 20 years old.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-melting-pot-xxix.1275153/page-207
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 11, 2021, 07:41:12 AM
Would 100% take Taranto.

Ross can go because clearly Dimma will insist he plays an outside/wing role that he's not suited to.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on August 11, 2021, 08:59:00 AM
Would 100% take Taranto.

Ross can go because clearly Dimma will insist he plays an outside/wing role that he's not suited to.


Personally, i would like to keep Ross and turn him into an inside mid- which is his real position :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 11, 2021, 09:17:25 AM
Would 100% take Taranto.

Ross can go because clearly Dimma will insist he plays an outside/wing role that he's not suited to.


Personally, i would like to keep Ross and turn him into an inside mid- which is his real position :shh

Me too but he basically a Matt Arnot.

If they let him put 5kg on over the summer and replace Cotchin permanently in the midfield with RCD then I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 11, 2021, 12:49:01 PM
Tom Morris reporting that it's now down to just Freo & the Scumbaggers in the race for Cerra and that we've dropped out....

...suspect/hope the sudden loss of interest might have something to do with the availabilty of a GWS mid or two in the wake of the Kelly deal... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 11, 2021, 01:12:18 PM
The fact that Cerra is even looking at the Blues makes me dislike him. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 11, 2021, 01:20:14 PM
Said the 2017 GF was "the greatest day of his life" before he was drafted....forgotten it already apparently...... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 11, 2021, 01:30:49 PM
Taranto would be a great get.

Would be happy with him or Cerra.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on August 11, 2021, 03:15:36 PM
Tom Morris reporting that it's now down to just Freo & the Scumbaggers in the race for Cerra and that we've dropped out....

...suspect/hope the sudden loss of interest might have something to do with the availabilty of a GWS mid or two in the wake of the Kelly deal... :shh

Can thank our lanky full forward getting paid 20k a kick at the moment for not being able to afford him.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on August 11, 2021, 03:22:02 PM
Tom Morris reporting that it's now down to just Freo & the Scumbaggers in the race for Cerra and that we've dropped out....

...suspect/hope the sudden loss of interest might have something to do with the availabilty of a GWS mid or two in the wake of the Kelly deal... :shh


Would be happy with one of Taranto, Hopper or Green.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2021, 03:51:30 PM
Carlton is monitoring Giants forward Jake Riccardi’s contract situation, reports the Herald Sun.

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The Crows face an uphill battle to keep Matt Crouch with the midfielder reportedly keen to explore his options as a restricted free agent at the end of the year

Crouch has been offered a new multi-year deal to remain in Adelaide but according to SEN’s Sam Edmund is eyeing a move to a Victorian club.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-adam-cerra-carlton-richmond-and-essendon-pull-out-sam-petrevskiseton-fremantle/news-story/475284ac578f1da28e17fbeea1674809
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2021, 04:00:19 PM
Tom Morris reporting that it's now down to just Freo & the Scumbaggers in the race for Cerra and that we've dropped out....
Also said the Dow's brother could be up for trade.

Here's Morris' article on Foxsports:

Adam Cerra’s career-defining decision is at least two weeks away, but already it now appears his choice is between two clubs: Fremantle and Carlton.

Essendon is not interested and is prioritising the draft and a key position player, while the Tigers are no longer in the hunt, according to multiple sources.

It leaves the Blues as the only option for Cerra if he decides to leave the Dockers and come home.

Although the midfielder is mainly considering a move due to family reasons, Carlton’s uncertain coaching situation has muddied the waters somewhat in recent weeks.

He does not want to commit to a club when he does not know who will be coaching them in 2022.

Fremantle, by contrast, is in a stable position. Justin Longmuir has a year to run on his contract and the club would be happy for him to sign either a two or four-year deal.

Of the other Melbourne-based clubs, Collingwood, St Kilda and Melbourne don’t have the cash ($700,000 to 750,000 will be his annual salary if he stays at Freo), while the Western Bulldogs are already well stocked with midfielders.

North Melbourne has the money now Josh Kelly has re-signed, but it is questionable whether Cerra would want to go to the Roos or Hawks as both clubs are rebuilding.

The question rival clubs are asking about the Blues’ interest in Cerra is: How can they afford him and how does a trade get done?

Sam Petrevski-Seton is increasingly likely to return home and the Dockers are the front-runner there, which could form part of a Cerra trade. Equally, Jack Silvagni is out of contract at season’s end, while Paddy Dow and Will Setterfield are contracted players but could be part of trade discussions.

In the back of list manager Nick Austin’s mind must be Sam Walsh’s rapid rise. He is out of contract at the end of 2022 and by then could command close to a seven-figure sum, based on his recent trajectory.

Also complicating matters for Carlton is that it gave up Pick 8 (with some later swaps) last year for Adam Saad. Would the Blues be prepared to give up another top 10 selection in 2021 for Cerra, as the Dockers would surely demand?

Amid all this uncertainty at the Blues, what’s crystal clear for Cerra is he holds the upper hand.

And in a trade period where there are very few notable players on the market, the focus is firmly on him.

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HEALY’S WARNING TO CLUBS CHASING CERRA

Brownlow Medallist Gerard Healy has warned clubs in the market for Adam Cerra to avoid surrendering prized draft selections to help them land the emerging Fremantle star.

Speaking on 3AW’s Sportsday, Healy said the sudden rises of Essendon and Sydney this season proves a club can now be “one, possibly two really good years of drafting away from becoming a really good side again”.

Healy, therefore, urged clubs pondering big plays for Cerra not to sacrifice too much draft capital.

“Here’s the lesson: Never ever give away two draft picks for a midfielder or a key-position player,” Healy told Sportsday. “He would have to be Patty Dangerfield-esque or Jonathan Brown-esque or Matthew Lloyd-esque.

“If you’re going to get Adam Cerra, that’s fine, Adam Cerra’s a good player. But the kid that’s 17 or 18 within two years may just be as good as Adam Cerra. So what are you giving away two draft picks for?”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-adam-cerra-carlton-richmond-and-essendon-pull-out-sam-petrevskiseton-fremantle/news-story/475284ac578f1da28e17fbeea1674809
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2021, 04:58:00 PM
Callum Twomey on the AFL's facebook page.

Richmond:
Twomey said he's been saying for a while that we weren't into Cerra as much as others were saying.

With 2 first rounders and 2 early second rounders the Tigers may just go to the draft.

Tigers have a number of re-signings to deal with first. Coleman-Jones is still out of contract. So they may focus on that before looking to spread their wings (at the trade table).

Chol:
Gold Coast and other clubs definitely interested. Those clubs are looking for that mobile ruckman that can go forward.

Narkle:
A number of inner city Melbourne clubs asking the question.

A lot of rumours last year linked him to Richmond as he has a lot of friends there. So perhaps he could end up there. However, Richmond haven't been overly keen in the past to reciprocate that interest.

https://www.facebook.com/AFL/videos/1034365317317148
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 11, 2021, 05:40:47 PM
All BS rumours wouldn't surprise me we go to draft if we don't get a quality midfielder out of gws.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2021, 06:43:02 PM
Richmond, speculated as a potential home for Cerra for months, have opted not to pursue Cerra and are heavily focused on the national draft, in which the Tigers have a huge hand. The Tigers also have a tight salary cap due to contractual commitments.

The Tigers also have to pay key forward Tom Lynch more than $1 million a season for the next four years, due to his heavily back-loaded contract – a deal that helped the club secure him and other key players – while champion Dustin Martin is also due to be paid over a million dollars for another three seasons.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cerra-favours-blues-if-he-leaves-dockers-tigers-not-keen-20210811-p58hvv.html
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 11, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
Trade out Tom Lynch. He got his flags we got rewarded as a club now move him on and save a million a year on the salary cap
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: OneEyedRichmond on August 11, 2021, 08:06:00 PM
Trade out Tom Lynch. He got his flags we got rewarded as a club now move him on and save a million a year on the salary cap

You’ve had a knock to the head 🤣
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2021, 08:08:07 PM
Out-of-contract Saints duo Jack Billings and Luke Dunstan are unlikely to be at the club next season, according to senior foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris.

Kane Cornes has named North Melbourne and the Gold Coast Suns as potential suitors for discarded Crow Tom Lynch.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-tom-lynchs-future-landing-spots-suitors-jack-billings-luke-dunstan-free-agency-st-kilda-saints-players-out-of-contract/news-story/f222c5a76d579169a9d7624c5dfa461c
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 11, 2021, 08:26:14 PM
Trade out Tom Lynch. He got his flags we got rewarded as a club now move him on and save a million a year on the salary cap

You’ve had a knock to the head 🤣

Why... he aint worth 1 million a year. Hes a 600,000-650,000 a year player now. Thats all.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 11, 2021, 08:28:34 PM
Trade out Tom Lynch. He got his flags we got rewarded as a club now move him on and save a million a year on the salary cap

You’ve had a knock to the head 🤣

Why... he aint worth 1 million a year. Hes a 600,000-650,000 a year player now. Thats all.

Not sure anyone would want to pay him $1mil.

We'd have to pay a good portion of it.

But it's true. He had a good 2019 and had been quite poo ever since.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 11, 2021, 08:31:50 PM
Trade out Tom Lynch. He got his flags we got rewarded as a club now move him on and save a million a year on the salary cap

You’ve had a knock to the head 🤣

Why... he aint worth 1 million a year. Hes a 600,000-650,000 a year player now. Thats all.

Yes he's had a poor season, some of it not his fault

But it's one season. Been injured,  played injured and has struggled.... let's see what 2022 brings

He won't be traded and he shouldn't be.

Personally, have faith he will turn it around. Could be this week... he kicks a bag and his poor form will be forgotten pretty quickly I reckon
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on August 11, 2021, 09:45:02 PM
Trade out Tom Lynch. He got his flags we got rewarded as a club now move him on and save a million a year on the salary cap

You’ve had a knock to the head 🤣

Why... he aint worth 1 million a year. Hes a 600,000-650,000 a year player now. Thats all.

Yes he's had a poor season, some of it not his fault

But it's one season. Been injured,  played injured and has struggled.... let's see what 2022 brings

He won't be traded and he shouldn't be.

Personally, have faith he will turn it around. Could be this week... he kicks a bag and his poor form will be forgotten pretty quickly I reckon

He had a very poor season last year also
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 11, 2021, 10:04:52 PM
Could do worse than picking up Dunstan or Billings as free agents..... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 12, 2021, 11:56:42 AM
I honestly don't think we can afford anyone at the moment and that's just a fact of being successful.  You reward your current players.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 12, 2021, 01:10:54 PM
I honestly don't think we can afford anyone at the moment and that's just a fact of being successful.  You reward your current players.

Need to cut some blokes/$$$ too.

Houli should go. Astbury should be considered too. Cotchin has a year to see out but that will be his last.

There's guys around 30 that will be finishing up in 1-3 years so we can always plan ahead and back-load contracts but don't want to do ourselves a Collingwood.

Club did a good thing using the Rance money to adjust and front load some contracts but you have to wonder if the Lynch one will come back to haunt us. Also wonder if Dusty's best is behind him or if he really has been playing hurt most of the year.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 12, 2021, 01:17:16 PM
Depends on retirements, delistings, trades etc.....would probably have to offer a heavily back ended contract to whoever we might target....this is where good list managers  earn their keep.... :shh

As for Dusty - if there's no long term effects then the kidney injury was probably a blessing in disguise because he really need to be rested from his other injuries... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 12, 2021, 01:41:55 PM
See the Crows won't be re-signing Talia

Any interest in him just as a back up key defender?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 12, 2021, 02:27:11 PM
See the Crows won't be re-signing Talia

Any interest in him just as a back up key defender?

Absolutely, only 29
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 12, 2021, 06:17:08 PM
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/67e6f312-8182-455e-89c1-5736fdb3141c-png.1203591/)
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-71545496
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: eliminator on August 12, 2021, 06:29:41 PM
See the Crows won't be re-signing Talia

Any interest in him just as a back up key defender?

Very surprised. Thought he was a good defender.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 13, 2021, 12:10:16 AM
Was probably the best 1v1 defender at one point. Haven't seen him play this year but we could certainly do worse unless he's become slower than Astbury
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 13, 2021, 07:22:28 AM
See the Crows won't be re-signing Talia

Any interest in him just as a back up key defender?

Yes I've said this elsewhere. Crouch too, apparently also going cheap.

Talia if fit would be great as a replacement for Astbury if we could get 2 years out of him. Just need Miller to come on or find another KPD.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 13, 2021, 11:52:50 AM
See the Crows won't be re-signing Talia

Any interest in him just as a back up key defender?

Yes I've said this elsewhere. Crouch too, apparently also going cheap.

Talia if fit would be great as a replacement for Astbury if we could get 2 years out of him. Just need Miller to come on or find another KPD.

I'd be happy with Talia

But a no to Crouch... too many dinky little chip kicks ... not sure it fits in with our game style
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 13, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
Not sure about recruiting a 30 year old who's just missed an entire season though I think the real question is; would he want to sing our song? :shh

Dunstan a far better option than Crouch if we're going to go down that road... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on August 13, 2021, 04:35:35 PM
I like Crouch as he is an extractor that could take the pressure off Cotch, I’m not sure how defensive he is but I suspect he might not give us value ( money ball) that we are after
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 13, 2021, 07:05:38 PM
Pass on both for me the crows boys.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 13, 2021, 07:45:12 PM
If we can land a younger gun mid like Taranto then I’d be happy to get Tom Mitchell too and have another real crack at a flag next year.

A couple more quality mids would make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 13, 2021, 11:19:54 PM
If we can land a younger gun mid like Taranto then I’d be happy to get Tom Mitchell too and have another real crack at a flag next year.

A couple more quality mids would make a huge difference.
Willy, nice thought, but I get the feeling we are in for a long haul now. Hope I’m wrong.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 15, 2021, 12:47:45 AM
Ok so pass on Dunstan after today.....might win the odd clearance but won't solve our forward entry issues....makes Parker & Pickett look like Buckley & D.Jarman.... :help
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 16, 2021, 11:31:53 PM
From Tiger71 on his BF podcast:

"We're gonna target a specific player in mind ...

We're looking at getting established talent in as reinforcement ...

We're backing our existing talent with the talent we bring in."

35 min mark: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVXqEMrmJB
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 17, 2021, 12:55:58 AM
From Tiger71 on his BF podcast:

"We're gonna target a specific player in mind ...

We're looking at getting established talent in as reinforcement ...

We're backing our existing talent with the talent we bring in."

35 min mark: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVXqEMrmJB

Has this guy ever, even once proven to be right with his trade whispers?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 17, 2021, 02:14:08 AM
Only on stuff everyone else already knew.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on August 17, 2021, 04:15:40 PM
From Tiger71 on his BF podcast:

"We're gonna target a specific player in mind ...

We're looking at getting established talent in as reinforcement ...

We're backing our existing talent with the talent we bring in."

35 min mark: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVXqEMrmJB

LOL - Claimed Cerra was a lock to us the other week and Carlscum had been told no.  Couldn't have been further from reality.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2021, 04:38:35 PM
Matthew Lloyd has named eight players who should consider moving on from their current clubs for greater opportunity.

Mabior Chol (Richmond)

“There’s no room for Tom Lynch, Toby Nankervis, Jack Riewoldt, Callum Coleman-Jones … so this man, Mabior Chol, I think Richmond has shown their hand that Coleman-Jones is their man.”

“I think (Chol) is more of a ruckman. I’d say $350,000, you’d get him cheap. He’s not getting a game.”

--------------------

Charlie Constable (Geelong)
Tom Lynch (Adelaide)
Mitch Wallis (Western Bulldogs)
Pat Lipinski (Western Bulldogs)
Ed Richards (Western Bulldogs)
Quinton Narkle (Geelong)
Sam Weideman (Melbourne)

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/16/lloyd-names-eight-players-who-should-consider-moving-clubs-for-greater/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2021, 04:39:31 PM
... Richmond (following David Astbury’s retirement) are others that may look at Daniel Talia, but he’d likely only be a depth player at those clubs with no guarantees on game time given their current key defensive personnel.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/16/the-clubs-that-daniel-talia-would-suit-in-2022/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: the claw on August 17, 2021, 05:35:12 PM
... Richmond (following David Astbury’s retirement) are others that may look at Daniel Talia, but he’d likely only be a depth player at those clubs with no guarantees on game time given their current key defensive personnel.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/16/the-clubs-that-daniel-talia-would-suit-in-2022/
Imo this is wrong. With Astbury retired it leaves us all asking the questions of. Is Ben Miller good enough and if not then two Kpd's are required. I reckon even if miller is good enough the list requires a mature back up and we need to chase a high quality youngster. The other thing is the only othe kpd of genuine height/size is  Bigy Nyuon but he atm looks no where near it. Surely part of of our longer term planning allows for failed draft picks. Especially such late picks.

Our KPD stocks  goes Balta, Miller and Nyuon with Grimes being forced to play the role if Miller does not come on. Thats very few eggs in one hell of an important role with two juniors who we have no idea if they will make it.

Talia as a delisted F/A an upgrade on Astbury if he is playing anywhere near his best  and a short term solution while we develop the young highly promising kpd we take in the draft and allows Miller and Nyuon more development time if they prove worth keeping.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 17, 2021, 07:18:17 PM
I’d also pass on talia. Don’t wanna go down the path of recruiting almost 30s players rather than giving our kids valuable game time. Especially ones that have just missed an entire season.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: OneEyedRichmond on August 17, 2021, 08:43:17 PM
From Tiger71 on his BF podcast:

"We're gonna target a specific player in mind ...

We're looking at getting established talent in as reinforcement ...

We're backing our existing talent with the talent we bring in."

35 min mark: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVXqEMrmJB

LOL - Claimed Cerra was a lock to us the other week and Carlscum had been told no.  Couldn't have been further from reality.

he never said Cerra was a lock, he said it’s either us or freo
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
Tom Morris stating what we already knew on AFL Tonight.

- Gold Coast interested in CCJ.
- Rival clubs believe one of Chol or CCJ is gettable.
- Houli's future (to play on or retire) to be decided in the next couple of weeks.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl-tonight/trade-talk-tigers-at-centre-of-intrigue!808257
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 17, 2021, 10:15:56 PM
Talia is an obvious replacement now that Astbury has retired …. If his body is sound. Brian Lake won flags crossing over to the Hawks aged 31.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 18, 2021, 12:56:49 AM
Houli should retire. Mansell Rioli can do his role at half back now
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 18, 2021, 02:38:15 PM
Reece Conca delisted by the Dockers. He was pick 6. This is why I think draft picks are overvalued in the marketplace. So many end up being busts.

Dylan Grimes was a PSD pick, then we draft the likes of Corey Ellis with a first rounder…

My point here is that I’m happy to trade our first rounders for proven quality young players.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on August 18, 2021, 03:05:01 PM
Reece Conca delisted by the Dockers. He was pick 6. This is why I think draft picks are overvalued in the marketplace. So many end up being busts.

Dylan Grimes was a PSD pick, then we draft the likes of Corey Ellis with a first rounder…

My point here is that I’m happy to trade our first rounders for proven quality young players.

Heppel, Prestia, Caddy and Lynch were the next 4 picks in the draft after Conca.  Nothing wrong with our pick number we just picked the wrong kid.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2021, 04:05:26 PM
RICHMOND

“Callum Coleman-Jones, Gold Coast is just one of the clubs interested in him,” Morris said.

“The prevailing view for Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol is that one of them is going to be gettable at the end of the year. Both out of contract, both key-position players — watch that space very closely.

“Bachar Houli wants to play on. Does he retire? That might be a decision for the next couple of weeks.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/st-kilda-saints/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-seb-ross-contract-st-kilda-free-agents-mabior-chol-callum-colemanjones/news-story/ef98213e627b42e5974e8a7d8e102025
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 18, 2021, 04:57:31 PM
so chol goes, which isnt a big loss, then jack the year after leaving a 30 yr old lynch on his own.

good luck with that.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2021, 05:00:22 PM
Reece Conca delisted by the Dockers. He was pick 6. This is why I think draft picks are overvalued in the marketplace. So many end up being busts.

Dylan Grimes was a PSD pick, then we draft the likes of Corey Ellis with a first rounder…

My point here is that I’m happy to trade our first rounders for proven quality young players.

Heppel, Prestia, Caddy and Lynch were the next 4 picks in the draft after Conca.  Nothing wrong with our pick number we just picked the wrong kid.

Conca was a massive reach and was considered as such by the wider AFL community at the time...........Hackson at his worst... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 18, 2021, 05:02:46 PM
Reece Conca delisted by the Dockers. He was pick 6. This is why I think draft picks are overvalued in the marketplace. So many end up being busts.

Dylan Grimes was a PSD pick, then we draft the likes of Corey Ellis with a first rounder…

My point here is that I’m happy to trade our first rounders for proven quality young players.

Heppel, Prestia, Caddy and Lynch were the next 4 picks in the draft after Conca.  Nothing wrong with our pick number we just picked the wrong kid.

Conca was a massive reach and was considered a such by the wider AFL community at the time.....Hackson at his worst... :shh

beat me to it.

The name Hackson was very prominent during that period, and for good reason.



Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 18, 2021, 05:56:24 PM
so chol goes, which isnt a big loss, then jack the year after leaving a 30 yr old lynch on his own.

good luck with that.

Or you know sometime in the next two years one/multiple of the following happens; CCJ develops into a very good key forward, we draft another key forward, we trade for a key forward, we pick up a free agent key forward
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 18, 2021, 06:40:40 PM
so chol goes, which isnt a big loss, then jack the year after leaving a 30 yr old lynch on his own.

good luck with that.

Or you know sometime in the next two years one/multiple of the following happens; CCJ develops into a very good key forward, we draft another key forward, we trade for a key forward, we pick up a free agent key forward

i think if you followed my thoughts on CCJ, it was a doomsday scenario should he leave as well with Chol.

My post was based on him leaving as well, which i hope doesn't happen.



Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: the claw on August 18, 2021, 06:53:23 PM
so chol goes, which isnt a big loss, then jack the year after leaving a 30 yr old lynch on his own.

good luck with that.

Chol is a ruckman not a key forward. But i get where your coming from. We only have two GENUINE key forwards on the list and one is nearly 33 and the other is closing in on 30.

With Astbury retired the KPD stocks are not much better if one questions the viability of Miller and Nyuon. There,s only Balta with games behind him and Grimes could play there for us but ideally you want him playing as the third tall general.



so chol goes, which isnt a big loss, then jack the year after leaving a 30 yr old lynch on his own.

good luck with that.

Or you know sometime in the next two years one/multiple of the following happens; CCJ develops into a very good key forward, we draft another key forward, we trade for a key forward, we pick up a free agent key forward

Imo we need two of those scenarios to happen and one of them has to happen this year if not two.

Reckon CC-J is more a ruckman than a forward. If we want the best out of him thats where we need to play and develop him. again just my opinion. So for me that rules him out.

Draft a key forward is the way to go and not at pick 100000 but with a decent pick targeting a quality junior. If one is available then that  is the way we go then we need to do it asap as we all know it takes time and games to get the big blokes to where you need em even good ones.

Likely scenario is by the time the recruit starts hitting his straps, that is if he even makes it, Riewoldt and Lynch will be gone and we are in the same boat we are now.

Would in the meantime like to see us take a F/A if available even an older one to cover for injury in the short term allowing any juniors we take time to develop in the two's.

Trading for a Genuine key forward is exorbitant and would cut us out of a draft almost. and we need to stay active at the draft table imo over the next few seasons. Simple reason is so many of our better players are coming to the end.

Looking 4 years down the track we really need to start building our GENUINE kpp stocks now. If we are honest right at the moment there is only one quality young tall kpp coming thru and thats Balta.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: the claw on August 18, 2021, 06:56:23 PM
I’d also pass on talia. Don’t wanna go down the path of recruiting almost 30s players rather than giving our kids valuable game time. Especially ones that have just missed an entire season.

What kids would that be.

There is only Miller who could not even crack a game this year and Nyuon who is no where near ready. Surely people are asking the obvious question here of are either going to be good enough.

As for Garthwaite he is not kpd size and is a poor excuse for a third tall. He should be delisted imo.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 18, 2021, 07:36:15 PM
I’d also pass on talia. Don’t wanna go down the path of recruiting almost 30s players rather than giving our kids valuable game time. Especially ones that have just missed an entire season.

What kids would that be.

There is only Miller who could not even crack a game this year and Nyuon who is no where near ready. Surely people are asking the obvious question here of are either going to be good enough.

As for Garthwaite he is not kpd size and is a poor excuse for a third tall. He should be delisted imo.

Well the 2 you mentioned for a start + any others that we may draft this year. We also do have grimes, balta, broad and at a push Vlas. I just don’t see the logic in people who wanted astbury to retire at age  30 to then wanna recruit a 29 year old who missed all of this last season with injury to replace him.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: JP Tiger on August 18, 2021, 09:05:56 PM
I agree that we need to bring in more KPD's but I don't want some washed up hack like Talia who we'll be de-listing after a year.  I'd rather draft a kid(s) who will need time to develop, just like Miller & Biggy are doing now.  I'd rather invest in youth than try to patch holes, we all know patching holes with more patches & creating even more holes just doesn't work.
   
Bring on the kids!      :cheers   
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on August 18, 2021, 10:34:13 PM
My humble opinion is you only recruit players who are top 10 players who are mid 20’s or younger if your giving up draft picks. As mentioned by someone , if a player comes in to plug a hole for a year means you have the same problem in a year or two and you don’t develop young players or they start looking elsewhere. The exception who be a Hodge type when you only have kids.
We have a good hand this year and we should use it to bring a whole lot of players at the same age group and development stage into the club, I hope I’m wrong but we may have to do a bit of a rebuild in the next few years
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2021, 10:41:16 PM
From the Big Footy podcast trade show tonight...make of it all what you will....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOtXimY_G78


 :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 18, 2021, 10:43:04 PM
Don't wanna listen.

What's it say?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: OneEyedRichmond on August 18, 2021, 10:48:13 PM
Don't wanna listen.

What's it say?

Plan A - Hopper, Plan B - Green
at the end T71 put his balls on the line and said if we dont get green this year then 💯 we’ll get him next year.

Also said 80% Narkle , and 60% for Lipinski/Wallis

Said both chol & CCJ gone

1st round picks we’ll get midfielder and defender in the draft
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 18, 2021, 11:11:07 PM
Thats not putting his balls on the line. That is putting 12 months on top of his call so people forget he ever said it
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 18, 2021, 11:40:03 PM
If there's any merit to it then it sounds like the club wants to have a crack at another flag
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2021, 11:54:52 PM
Thats not putting his balls on the line. That is putting 12 months on top of his call so people forget he ever said it

"Tom Green will end up a Richmond at some point in the future..." is not really that big of a call anyway....:shh :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 19, 2021, 08:02:43 AM
From the Big Footy podcast trade show tonight...make of it all what you will....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOtXimY_G78


 :shh
Summary:

- We're going to regenerate our midfield.

- We're keen on trading for an inside mid, a winger and a small forward.

- Likely to trade in two players and then hit the draft hard.

- We'll pick up a mid and a defender with our first two picks in the draft.

- We've "hid" a kid that is a first rounder but we'll pick him up with a second rounder.

- No trading our top 10 first round pick.

- Hoping to move up the draft using our other late first rounder and later 2nd or 3rd rounder. Other clubs need the draft points.

- Happy to trade our future 2022 first rounder as there's a belief we will bounce back hard.

- Still not out of the Cerra race but he would have to accept less than what others are offering. Hardwick has met with Cerra twice. If we could get Cerra with a future first rounder + one of this year's 3rd rounders we would do it.

- Having said that he doesn't think Cerra will end up at Richmond as we are more interested in shaking the GWS tree now that Josh Kelly has re-signed on a big contract.

- We've interested in Hopper. Willing to offer a first round pick. Other clubs looking at him too. Hopper is plan A. Green is plan B.

- Green is a "lock". If we don't get him this year then we'll get him next year. We've offered a first rounder.

- Narkle: 80% chance. Demographically can put on size. Inconsistent but can be developed. Believe he'll be like Stack or Bolton where he will be better for us at AFL level than VFL level. Not going to cost us much. Surprised if he doesn't pick us.

- Wallis: 60% chance. Name won't go away. A bridge until our younger mids step up. Elite inside/contested ballwinner. Yes he has weaknesses but he's elite at his one wood. Won't cost must either.

- Lipinski: 60% chance. Tracting him if we miss out on Cerra. We like his outside work and would develop him as a wing. Nice penetrating kick.

- Billings: Heard we're interested but not confirmed by his "main guy". Watch this space. Hardwick loves him/that type. We'd play him as a small forward. Depends if he comes cheap.

- Lochie O'Brien: name has been mentioned a couple of times. We think Carlton has botched his development. He was an early pick. We'd turn him into a winger.

- Taranto is a no. He'll stay at GWS.

- Mitchell is a no. Hawthorn would have to accept a 3rd rounder plus pay 80% of his salary. Not realistic.

- Matt Crouch: we've got the call in but if he's like his brother he'll chase the money. He also checked out of the Crows this year so that's a red flag.

- Talia: body broken. Not bringing in a 30 y.o. unless he's absolute gun. Club believes we have developing backs. Target backs in the draft not the trade table.

- Constable: no nothing.

- Dan Rioli is not going anywhere.

- Caddy had things going on this year that Tiger71 wouldn't mention. He's contracted for 2022 so don't be surprised if he plays 18 games next year. However, we're open to trading Caddy. If Hopper comes to Punt Rd then Caddy should be nervous.

- Coleman-Jones 90% gone. Going to GWS. Brisbane, Essendon and Geelong have also looked at him. Like to keep him  but we can't match other club's offers.

- Chol going to Gold Coast.

- Cumberland not being delisted.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on August 19, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
How do we keep our top 10 pick and get Hopper or Green?

Could only do it if we use next year's first or CCJ
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 19, 2021, 10:07:12 AM
How do we keep our top 10 pick and get Hopper or Green?

Could only do it if we use next year's first or CCJ

CCJ might want to go.

At a minimum I think it would take 2 firsts + CCJ, probably more.

If we aren't trading our first pick this year, and are hoping to upgrade #17, then it sorta looks impossible.

Personally I'd offer our first 2 picks this year + CCJ and see what they say.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 19, 2021, 10:16:06 AM
if ccj goes we are stuffed, mark my words.

the only caveat to that is if we get greene in the process.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 19, 2021, 11:43:59 AM
The kid we’re trying to hide is Zac Taylor.
Not so much trying to hide him, just hoping we get get him with a late second round pic.
Watch this space………

Zac Taylor (Calder Cannons)
180cm/74kg | Midfielder
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 19, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
I prefer to go to draft and use the picks we have. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 19, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
Another small. Great...
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2021, 01:41:10 PM
Wallis & Billings cheap I could live with...big pass on Lapinksi & Narkle....Hopper sounds like pipe dream(he's from NSW for a start) and can't see how we get Green next year if we're trading future high picks (he will get here eventually though)...can't see Cerra happening and don't want him now anyway unless Green or Hopper were coming too.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on August 19, 2021, 02:06:41 PM
I would be keen on lipinski , young with great skills, l would be disappointed if Coleman Jones and Chol both went, especially Coleman Jones
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
Lipinski is slow as treacle..another Danny Meyer or a Tom Hislop with better skills ...but Sam Mitchell or Diesel he ain't... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 19, 2021, 02:14:04 PM
Not one of those names excited me that a realistic.No to Billings to.Dream on club will loose Chol and CCJ  if that's the case stupidity.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2021, 02:25:31 PM
Billings would be a massive upgrade on either of the Aarse/Cantkickit comedy duo....can play in midfield as well...was generally considered to be St.Kilda's best young player not that long ago and is still young enough to recapture that form...as they say in the classics- form is temporary, talent is permanent.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on August 19, 2021, 02:31:52 PM
Billings would be a massive upgrade on either of the Aarse/Cantkickit comedy duo....can play in midfield as well...was generally considered to be St.Kilda's best young player not that long ago and is still young enough to recapture that form...as they say in the classics- form is temporary, talent is permanent.... :shh


Billings likely to sign on with St Kilda.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 19, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
Yeah probably...not that fussed about it tbh...just prefer him to most of the other names mentioned if they're the options we're looking at...as I've said a few times, never rated the source of the info..... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 20, 2021, 04:01:50 PM
From the Herald-Sun:

ADAM Cerra is set to play his last game at Fremantle this weekend, with the pull of family to be his reason for moving back to Melbourne.

Cerra and partner Claudia, who is this year finishing a four-year degree, have barely seen their families through Covid and are understood to be keen to return home.

Claudia can continue further study over in Perth but despite his love of the club and the future it is building it is likely his best chance to get back to Melbourne.

Many players in Cerra’s position were able to catch up with family and friends in previous years when they flew in for Melbourne games but this year players have mostly been quarantined and borders have been shut to relatives.

There is no doubt he has enjoyed Justin Longmuir’s coaching style in preference to Ross Lyon’s more extroverted manner.

But the Herald Sun understands it would not be an impediment to him landing at Carlton next year if Lyon was the coach of the Blues.

Carlton would automatically slot in a mature midfielder with exceptional kicking skills but the Blues would again have to give away their top-10 pick.

They would attempt to split it to hand the Dockers a later first-rounder but securing a 21-year-old with 76 games under his belt and huge upside would mean Fremantle would play hard ball.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-all-the-latest-in-afl-trades-and-player-movement/news-story/039f6c385b309c1f2ccd1490d0844aa0
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 20, 2021, 04:08:40 PM
From the Herald-Sun:

ADAM Cerra is set to play his last game at Fremantle this weekend, with the pull of family to be his reason for moving back to Melbourne.

Cerra and partner Claudia, who is this year finishing a four-year degree, have barely seen their families through Covid and are understood to be keen to return home.

Claudia can continue further study over in Perth but despite his love of the club and the future it is building it is likely his best chance to get back to Melbourne.

Many players in Cerra’s position were able to catch up with family and friends in previous years when they flew in for Melbourne games but this year players have mostly been quarantined and borders have been shut to relatives.

There is no doubt he has enjoyed Justin Longmuir’s coaching style in preference to Ross Lyon’s more extroverted manner.

But the Herald Sun understands it would not be an impediment to him landing at Carlton next year if Lyon was the coach of the Blues.

Carlton would automatically slot in a mature midfielder with exceptional kicking skills but the Blues would again have to give away their top-10 pick.

They would attempt to split it to hand the Dockers a later first-rounder but securing a 21-year-old with 76 games under his belt and huge upside would mean Fremantle would play hard ball.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-all-the-latest-in-afl-trades-and-player-movement/news-story/039f6c385b309c1f2ccd1490d0844aa0

Much prefer him to come to us than Carlton. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 21, 2021, 08:51:06 PM
Shame that Hopper to Richmond rumour is most likely complete b.s....if it  only was C42yadoor posting them and not tiger71.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2021, 07:48:52 PM
The rumour before the season was Paddy Dow would join his brother at Richmond for a Future Pick.

https://twitter.com/Swiz26/status/1428990704722710529
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 02:39:25 PM
Cerra has quit Freo but he hasn't nominated a Victorian club.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/670245/freo-gun-wants-out-former-no-5-pick-requests-trade-to-victoria
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 02:46:38 PM
Sam Edmund is linking us to Talia.

Daniel Talia (Adelaide)

“Daniel Talia is going to be a really interesting watch, I don’t know if Richmond is across the line by any stretch of the imagination yet.

“Essendon might’ve been sounded at as well as to whether they’ve got an interest.

“He’s certainly good enough to go around again, but you’d have to be in the window (in premiership contention).

"Richmond tick that box, Essendon is playing finals this year and they’ve got Patrick Ambrose retired, Michael Hurley no guarantees, Cale Hooker is gone … so could he fit at Essendon.”


Patrick Lipinski (Western Bulldogs)

“Pat Lipinski will leave the Dogs, but at the moment it’s hard to find a home for him right now and a lot of clubs are unsure.

“He’s too good for the VFL, but is he good enough for the AFL? Does he sit in that awkward sweet spot if you like, he uses it well but does he have the leg speed?

“That’s the other thing right now, speed is everything, every list manager you speak to, no one wants a player who doesn’t have speed, who can’t cover the ground, speed is an absolute priority right now and if you don’t have it, it’s hard to find a suitor for them.”


Mitch Wallis (Western Bulldogs)

“Mitch Wallis has been frozen out of the Dogs and we know that.

“I’m hearing it actually might’ve really strained some relationships there at Whitten Oval between player and coach when it comes to Mitch Wallis, who is the vice-captain, who has been completely shut out of the Dogs this year.”


Jack Gunston (Hawthorn)

“Lots of smoke around Jack Gunston, he’s very much an Alastair Clarkson man and a lot of clubs … they have definitely come calling for Jack Gunston to see if they can use what’s happened at Hawthorn as leverage to get him out,” Edmund said on SEN’s Whateley.

“He is contracted but that back injury has definitely scared a few clubs off, that’s not something you want to muck around with, especially for someone who’s well paid like Jack Gunston, that has certainly scared a few off.

“But I reckon it’s a watch this space going forward for sure.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/24/sam-edmunds-trade-update-on-gunston-chol-wallis-and-more/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
Cerra has quit Freo but he hasn't nominated a Victorian club.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/670245/freo-gun-wants-out-former-no-5-pick-requests-trade-to-victoria
Tom Morris saying Cerra has nominated Carlton.

https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1430008540077326336
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 24, 2021, 03:21:09 PM
I trust the club but wonder if we might regret the club chasing him a bit harder? 
Time will tell I suppose!! 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 03:24:16 PM
Sam Edmund:

"Carlton still haven't spoken with Adam Cerra, which might be extraordinary for some to hear.

"What's become clear is that he's run out of options. It's the Blues or bust. Other clubs that are interested don't have the draft capital."

https://twitter.com/WhateleySEN/status/1429968711968989193
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 04:37:53 PM
Cerra: Carlton the only real option given Richmond happy to go to the draft.

https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1430009452766187520

Bulldogs have tabled a three-year contract offer to Patrick Lipinski as the young midfielder weighs interest from Carlton and Collingwood. Sydney has also shown interest.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/670255/hard-running-dog-ponders-new-deal-as-two-vic-rivals-circle
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 04:53:57 PM
Sam Edmund says that he believes Richmond don't want to use their pick 7 so that's why they're not interested.

That is exactly what I have heard. Lazy pretend jurnos because of that have said we have gone cold. rubbish. There is a trade period for a reason. If we can satisfy freo while keeping pick 7 I think we can do a deal. Lot still to play out imo

Tiger71: https://twitter.com/Tiger7192926603/status/1430026910482894852
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 06:48:27 PM
Doesn't sound like Hopper wants out of GWS.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/24/gun-giants-midfielder-gives-contract-update/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 24, 2021, 07:07:16 PM
Balmey said he spoke to Blair Hartley yesterday and we're happy to go to the draft with six picks inside the top 45 as although these kids won't do much for us next year it will be handy to have them as our older champs retire over the next 2-3 years.

Balmey added the caveat that if a situation arises where someone who we really like becomes available then we'll also be happy to bundle up a few of those picks together to get a deal done.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1007742/talking-tigers-episode-25-2021
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 24, 2021, 09:36:30 PM
Doesn't sound like Hopper wants out of GWS.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/24/gun-giants-midfielder-gives-contract-update/

Never did... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 24, 2021, 11:12:49 PM
Balmey said he spoke to Blair Hartley yesterday and we're happy to go to the draft with six picks inside the top 45 as although these kids won't do much for us next year it will be handy to have them as our older champs retire over the next 2-3 years.

Balmey added the caveat that if a situation arises where someone who we really like becomes available then we'll also be happy to bundle up a few of those picks together to get a deal done.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1007742/talking-tigers-episode-25-2021

Happy with that  :gotigers.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 25, 2021, 01:28:18 PM
Let's just go to the draft, I am excited to see who we can get in the top 40.
Draft & develop, the alternative just costs too much in financials & draft picks. 
Top up with free agents for depth and Tahlia & Wallis would be 2 I would look at. 

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 25, 2021, 02:23:12 PM
Dunstan delisted.... :shh

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2021, 10:00:23 PM
A lot of tier 4️⃣ areas about this one:

JACOB HOPPER is "gettable". Both the Tigers and Hawks interested.

Source tier = 4️⃣

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElYjUY7WMAESOia?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/RankerAfl/status/1430447331510415361
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 26, 2021, 10:12:09 AM
Happy for us to go all in on Hopper.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 26, 2021, 11:47:28 AM
I'm still extremely skeptical Hopper is even on the table but if  it is true and we go off the Treloar trade last year then if it's a salary dump we might be able to get him for slight unders - Dogs gave up pick 14 and a future second but also got picks 26, 33 & 42 back...not sure if GWS would be quite that desperate though...plus Treloar was 4 years older than Hopper is and had/has a history of injuries... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 26, 2021, 12:01:31 PM
Josh Battle anyone?  :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: TFL on August 26, 2021, 01:25:19 PM
Josh Battle anyone?  :shh

Yep definitely for the right price, can play both ends
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MaccaDacca on August 26, 2021, 02:02:08 PM
Would be a great utilty/back up defender
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 27, 2021, 05:21:27 AM
Post on BF's trade board about Quinton Narkle:

Quote from: Morro
Literally posted in here months ago.

Deal done with RFC and was laughed at.

Confirmed again by Cats marketing member 2 weeks ago.

Something massive would need to change.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/quinton-narkle.1270477/post-71811876

Geelong supporter saying a future 3rd will get the deal done.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 27, 2021, 10:18:10 AM
Would anyone consider trading 28, 40 & 44 to WB for 14?

Gives them 300 points for a Darcy bid.

We go to the draft with 7, 14, 16 and 26. All likely to slide down 2 spots.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on August 27, 2021, 10:19:23 AM
Would anyone consider trading 28, 40 & 44 to WB for 14?

Gives them 300 points for a Darcy bid.

We go to the draft with 7, 14, 16 and 26. All likely to slide down 2 spots.

Yes, as long as they give us 69 also
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on August 27, 2021, 10:24:43 AM
Would anyone consider trading 28, 40 & 44 to WB for 14?

Gives them 300 points for a Darcy bid.

We go to the draft with 7, 14, 16 and 26. All likely to slide down 2 spots.

Yep. Like it.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 27, 2021, 10:38:39 AM
Main problem is figuring out what 'points' are worth to a club like WB.

Darcy is predicted to be bid on at about #3 so with a 20% discount the Dogs would need about 1,788 points.

We would be helping them get there but they still won't have enough.

Might need to involve their future 2nd and our #26.

So could be more like:
RFC 26 + 28 + 40 (1,835) for WB 14 + 2022 2nd (#31 if they finish 5th again).

And we hit draft with 7, 14, 16, 44.

Then next year have 2x second rounders.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 27, 2021, 10:51:44 AM
Would anyone consider trading 28, 40 & 44 to WB for 14?

Gives them 300 points for a Darcy bid.

We go to the draft with 7, 14, 16 and 26. All likely to slide down 2 spots.

Yes, as long as they give us 69 also

The draft pick 69?
If not then no thanks.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 27, 2021, 11:00:15 AM
Let's not help any other club out unless we get a clear benefit this year 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 27, 2021, 03:44:37 PM
Still not convinced but anyway....

(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/screen-shot-2021-08-27-at-3-08-26-pm-png.1218460/)
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3646101235614107&id=1617461091811475

 :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 27, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
Anyone for Weitering?  ;D

Quote
I’m told the relationship between Sayers and Weitering is close to unsalvageable.

This is massive watch with #AFLTrades season around the corner.

https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/1431048646515073032

Quote
As reported here on Monday, several key Blues players want out of the club due to Carlton’s handling of Teague.

https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/1430802372968685570
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: 1965 on August 27, 2021, 04:25:51 PM



Well he is ugly enough. Almost shades Castagna.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 27, 2021, 06:18:29 PM
Trade Whisperer is a notorious troll account..... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 28, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
Tom Browne on Ch 7 said he's spoken to someone from GWS and Hopper will re-sign with the Giants in 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 28, 2021, 05:03:12 PM
Jesse Hogan would have been handy this year. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on August 28, 2021, 05:18:22 PM
Jesse Hogan would have been handy this year.

In what way taking games from CCJ.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 28, 2021, 08:20:21 PM
Winning games
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 28, 2021, 11:22:06 PM
HOLD THAT THOUGHT:

Quinton Narkle will play for a different club next year, and he was tipped to join Richmond with good mate Shai Bolton, but there’s a twist

Essendon, North, Carlton and Fremantle have offered a significantly better deal that’s just been passed down to his manager Ralph Carr, and this has somewhat made Quinton re-think his options

Extra money and extra years on that offer from the above clubs

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/165950849003066
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 29, 2021, 10:55:19 AM
Good. His ordinary.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on August 29, 2021, 11:01:02 AM
 :cheers :cheers :cheers
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 29, 2021, 06:25:41 PM
COMING HOME?

West coast youngster Jarrod Brander looks set to return home to Vic in 2022, with west coast yet to offer him a deal

His manager has wasted no time making sure he has a home next year

North Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond and Hawthorn are all showing interest in the 22 year old

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/167085448889606
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Broadsword on August 29, 2021, 06:32:59 PM
COMING HOME?

West coast youngster Jarrod Brander looks set to return home to Vic in 2022, with west coast yet to offer him a deal

His manager has wasted no time making sure he has a home next year

North Melbourne, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond and Hawthorn are all showing interest in the 22 year old

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/167085448889606

#13 pick in 2017. 195cm, 92kg. 22 career games to date including 11 this season. Big-bodied Mid/Forward. Only 22 yo.

Worth looking at you'd have to say?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 29, 2021, 06:43:19 PM
God no...even spuds it up in the WAFL...would be even worse than getting Narkle.... :facepalm
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 29, 2021, 06:47:40 PM
No from me too
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 29, 2021, 07:29:20 PM
Port fan on BF regarding Hopper:

"He’s heading to a VIC club from what ive heard?"

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jacob-hopper.1266497/post-71891611

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 30, 2021, 03:50:25 AM
From Collingwood's BF forum:

(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/img_2566-jpg.1221083/)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 30, 2021, 11:28:00 AM
Adams...gun but too old now and starting to rack up the injuries.. :shh

Moore....maybe but another who's injury prone.... :shh :shh

De Goey.......hmmm...him & Dusty in the same side ... :shh :shh :shh


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 30, 2021, 01:18:57 PM
Adams...gun but too old now and starting to rack up the injuries.. :shh

Moore....maybe but another who's injury prone.... :shh :shh

De Goey.......hmmm...him & Dusty in the same side ... :shh :shh :shh




He's almost 28 haha.

If his body wasn't injury prone you could expect 3-5 years out of him.

De Goey and Moore would be amazing.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on August 30, 2021, 01:40:14 PM
For the price & picks Adams would cost 28 is too old... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 30, 2021, 01:40:48 PM
Taylor Adams will be the next Captain of the Pies

He won't be leaving
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on August 30, 2021, 01:42:43 PM
The more I think about it the more I just want to go to the draft and get our next generation of players. 
I do also like the idea of going after GC pick 4 by using 7 and something else (player or other pick) and bringing in another first rounder somehow.   
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 30, 2021, 07:24:35 PM
Moore would be an inspired get.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on August 30, 2021, 07:54:50 PM
These players would cost you 2 first rounders and put us back years, they we will be around for 5 years and we would have a big hole when they leave. I hope we invest in the draft because there’s little chance Collingwood going to take unders.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on August 30, 2021, 09:04:41 PM
These players would cost you 2 first rounders and put us back years, they we will be around for 5 years and we would have a big hole when they leave. I hope we invest in the draft because there’s little chance Collingwood going to take unders.

Unless they have another fire sale due to cap issues.

Moore down back with Balta, Grimes, Vlastuin, Broad, Rioli and Mansell would be insanely good.

De Goey and Dusty could just swap between deep forward and midfield so they never even need to come off the bloody ground.

If the club thinks we have another flag in the list I'm happy for them to sell the farm to win it. Even if it means another 5 years extra in the wilderness later.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on August 31, 2021, 03:29:37 PM
Rivals urged to chase Bulldogs ruck Tim English.

https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-rivals-urged-to-chase-bulldogs-tall-89778/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on August 31, 2021, 03:37:14 PM
I would consider Darcy Moore for a 1st round pick and a non essential player.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2021, 04:49:12 AM
Two-time St Kilda best-and-fairest winner Seb Ross could be playing football elsewhere in 2022 with the midfielder yet to sign a new deal at Moorabbin.

The 28-year-old unrestricted free agent is currently uncontracted for 2022 but has been offered a two-year deal by the Saints with triggers for a third season.

Ross is believed be exploring his options on the market before deciding on whether to recommit to St Kilda.

The midfielder has played 160 games for the Saints since making his debut in 2012, winning the club's best-and-fairest award in 2017 and 2019.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/afl-2021-trade-news-and-rumours-swans-star-parker-linked-to-two-clubs/1rhwp0xoai887zxxa5m6d4i8w
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2021, 05:41:26 AM
DUMPED CROW A ‘PERFECT FIT’ FOR TIGERS

Daniel Talia’s hopes of receiving an AFL lifeline have received a boost with a handful of clubs — including Richmond — considering offering the former Adelaide defender a chance in 2022.

Talia, who turns 30 in October, was told by the Crows earlier this month that he wouldn’t get a new deal after knee and foot injuries kept him out for the entire season.

The one-time AFL Rising Star would still need to prove that his body was right to keep playing at the highest level.

But he is confident he has “more years left” and is getting on top of his issues, with his management fielding some early interest from clubs.

The surprise retirement of triple premiership defender David Astbury could potentially open the door for Talia at Richmond, with Fox Footy’s Jordan Lewis saying recently that the Tigers would be a perfect fit.

The Tigers will get Noah Balta back next season, but Talia could provide some extra insurance if he can overcome the injury doubts.

“From a Daniel Talia point of view, with the Astbury retirement, it seems to be a perfect fit if they wanted someone to strengthen their backine,” Lewis said on SEN recently. “To be a ready-made player and a lot of experience to give them another shot at the flag next year.”

Essendon could be another club looking for defensive cover after spending part of 2021 experimenting with its backline set-up.

Michael Hurley will return next season — potentially as a forward — after a debilitating hip infection left him on the sidelines for the entire season. Cake Hooker has retired.

St Kilda might also be in the market for an experienced defender following the retirement of James Frawley after his comeback was cut short by injury issues.

Talia would come cheap for a club prepared to take a chance on a footballer who was one of the game’s best defenders at his peak.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-trade-contract-draft-and-coach-news-across-the-afl/news-story/929c5cdecf65c2d78384a868f38af62f
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 01, 2021, 12:03:09 PM
Would just be a sideways move with Astbury gone... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 01, 2021, 12:07:52 PM
As if the Scraggers would let English go....Fatchison talking out of his fat arse and acting like the AFL is some crap seppo league as usual... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: JP Tiger on September 01, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
Used car salesmen?  Fortunately, I learned long ago to always kick the tyres ... & don't sign anything ....        :-\
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 01, 2021, 02:45:24 PM
So apparently Wimpley and Sam "Balme to Adelaide" Edmund said on SEN that CCJ is a "lock" to Norf..... :shh


EDIT: Turns out they were just reading out a text from some nuffy listener... :santa
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2021, 04:17:21 PM
Jacob Hopper will sign a two-year deal at GWS as early as this week in a major boost for the club.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-george-hewett-matt-crouch-free-agent-trent-dumont-seb-ross-luke-dunstan/news-story/8d5cc73884da83ad8adb930978feb2de


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2021, 04:19:18 PM
SAM EDMUND’S TRADE UPDATE ON SEN

Tom Green (GWS)

(Regarding a text suggesting Green to Richmond).

“He’s contracted for another few years (until 2023), he signed an extension (in 2020).

“That would be an almighty pickup and one from left-field for the Tigers.”

Daniel Talia (Adelaide - delisted)

“I wonder if Richmond will make an official offer to Daniel Talia, it does make a lot of sense given the retirements of David Astbury and Bachar Houli to a lesser extent and it would take some pressure off Noah Balta.”

Quinton Narkle (Geelong)

“It’s been the whisper for some time, he’s got the same manager as Shai Bolton, the two are pretty tight.

“I’m not sure if there’s a lot of interest in Quinton Narkle elsewhere... there’s concerns over the knee and his ability to spread but he’s clearly good enough at the level and he hasn’t had a clean run at it at Geelong, so Richmond have long been rightly or wrongly put up there as the new home for him.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/01/sam-edmunds-trade-update-on-parker-hewett-narkle-and-more/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2021, 04:19:31 PM
Tom Morris' live trade chat today:

Q: Tigers themed - possibility of having Talia, Narkle & Tom Greene at the club next year?

Morris: I would be surprised if Green was anywhere but GWS. Other two a chance!


Q: What happened to Mitchell to Richmond, is that still going around Tom ?

Morris: Don't rule it out! Sam Mitchell is a fan of Tom so might not happen this year.



Q: Is Cerra to carlton a done deal or will hawks or Richmond make a play

Morris: Not done until it's done. But looks like it's heading that way for sure. Nobody else can afford him or offer the right picks in return, though the Dees did have interest at one point.

https://go.arena.im/chat/fox-sports-australia/gukd
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2021, 07:38:15 PM
Very hard to get clarity out of Sydney on exact numbers but rivals say Luke Parker has only been offered two years on $500K. He is 29 in December but if he can get 4 by $700K elsewhere he would have leave. $1.8m more of guaranteed money if he can get that deal.

https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1432920542198198272

Tom Morris on AFL Tonight said the list managers he has spoken to are noting there's a glut of inside midfielders available in this upcoming trade period.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 02, 2021, 06:45:14 AM
I'd consider 3 years. 4 years for him I dunno... Gun player though. Has really stepped it up with his contract coming up.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 02, 2021, 07:13:19 AM
That is an absolute pass for me. Too slow and is not what we need.

Wouldn’t even give him 1 year.



Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2021, 10:24:40 AM
CERRA TO MEET MULTIPLE VICTORIAN CLUBS

Adam Cerra has started meeting with Melbourne-based clubs this week, with the 21-year-old expected to have preliminary conversations with at least two clubs in addition to Carlton.

The Blues remain the frontrunners to win Cerra's signature during the Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period, but it is understood the classy midfielder has not closed the door on other options after requesting a move from Fremantle after four seasons.

Cerra, who wants to see the Dockers compensated fairly, remains in Perth and is meeting via video call with those clubs that may have both the salary cap space and trade assets to eventually do a deal.

Carlton is a clear frontrunner to secure Cerra, given its pick No.6 in the NAB AFL Draft and ability to get close to the lucrative deal that Fremantle tabled earlier this year.

The Dockers are prioritising draft selections in exchange for the midfielder, who finished third in their best and fairest last season and is expected to again poll well.

The club is not expected to chase Carlton pair Zac Fisher or Sam Petrevski-Seton as part of any trade.


SUNS' PICK UP FOR GRABS

GOLD Coast will consider trading its prized No.3 pick for multiple early selections with an even top end of the draft looming.

The club is open to potentially 'splitting' its top pick for a package of picks which would allow it to grab a couple of highly rated players within the first round.


https://www.afl.com.au/news/673366/cerra-meets-with-clubs-young-tiger-weighs-offer-eagle-staying-put
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2021, 10:38:21 AM
STRONG PULL:

The pull from Richmond is becoming more and more enticing for Quinton Narkle, despite receiving better offers from rival clubs.

The money and years are longer elsewhere, but the chance to play with close mate Shai Bolton could be the catalyst to get him over the line and make him a tiger.

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/169352061996278
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
ADAM CERRA to meet with Essendon, North, St Kilda and Richmond.

Source tier = 3️⃣

#AFLTrades #AFLTrade

https://twitter.com/RankerAfl/status/1433216769586511874
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2021, 11:43:50 AM
"The Tigers have a fair amount of love for Daniel Talia, and they're not the only ones," Nine News' Josh Money revealed.

"Several clubs have sounded him out, the two considered most interested are Richmond and Geelong.

https://www.zerohanger.com/afl-trade-news-tigers-among-several-clubs-eyeing-delisted-crow-89896/


Daniel Talia may have found a new home at one of the Crows biggest rivals. @joshmoney__ #9News (Adelaide)

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/Talia-9newsAdelaide.png)
Watch here: https://twitter.com/9NewsAdel/status/1432997114200662016
 (https://twitter.com/9NewsAdel/status/1432997114200662016)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 02, 2021, 12:41:00 PM
I trust the club to do due diligence re: medical assessment
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on September 02, 2021, 12:45:48 PM
Nothing to consider. If he wants to continue playing it's an easy decision. Sign on old man :clapping
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on September 02, 2021, 01:58:32 PM
Would think Garthwaite would now definitely be surplus to needs
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2021, 02:01:04 PM
Tom Morris on AFL Tonight said the list managers he has spoken to are noting there's a glut of inside midfielders available in this upcoming trade period.
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/1630544868515-png.1223816/)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on September 02, 2021, 02:17:09 PM
Would think Garthwaite would now definitely be surplus to needs

I would thank Gath for his time anyway. Gave it his best shot.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 02, 2021, 02:28:11 PM
Nothing to consider. If he wants to continue playing it's an easy decision. Sign on old man :clapping

Agree

Fills a need if 9nly as a back up
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2021, 03:03:49 PM
OPEN TO ALL OPTIONS:

Widely tipped to Join Carlton by the general media, we have gotten word he [Cerra] has done a medical and zoom tour of the Richmond and hawthorn facilities.

Very juicy indeed, stay tuned.

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/169817865283031
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 02, 2021, 03:05:02 PM
OPEN TO ALL OPTIONS:

Widely tipped to Join Carlton by the general media, we have gotten word he [Cerra] has done a medical and zoom tour of the Richmond and hawthorn facilities.

Very juicy indeed, stay tuned.

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/169817865283031

This is false
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on September 02, 2021, 03:14:42 PM
OPEN TO ALL OPTIONS:

Widely tipped to Join Carlton by the general media, we have gotten word he [Cerra] has done a medical and zoom tour of the Richmond and hawthorn facilities.

Very juicy indeed, stay tuned.

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/169817865283031

This is false


Go on...
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: hammer76 on September 02, 2021, 03:20:24 PM
Richmond wouldn't be offering 700K nor is he worth that coin
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 02, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
OPEN TO ALL OPTIONS:

Widely tipped to Join Carlton by the general media, we have gotten word he [Cerra] has done a medical and zoom tour of the Richmond and hawthorn facilities.

Very juicy indeed, stay tuned.

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/169817865283031

This is false


Go on...

We haven't even spoken to him and are not likely too Source: Tier 1 (inside club)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: rogerd3 on September 02, 2021, 04:04:37 PM
Sounds like Judd is back in town.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: The Machine on September 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM
OPEN TO ALL OPTIONS:

Widely tipped to Join Carlton by the general media, we have gotten word he [Cerra] has done a medical and zoom tour of the Richmond and hawthorn facilities.

Very juicy indeed, stay tuned.

https://www.facebook.com/AFLinsider/posts/169817865283031

This is false


Go on...

We haven't even spoken to him and are not likely too Source: Tier 1 (inside club)


Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 02, 2021, 06:45:31 PM
ADAM CERRA to meet with Essendon, North, St Kilda and Richmond.

Source tier = 3️⃣

#AFLTrades #AFLTrade

https://twitter.com/RankerAfl/status/1433216769586511874

Lol a tier 1000 passing on information from one of his ‘tier 3’ source so what does that make the overall rumour?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 02, 2021, 08:40:41 PM
Used car salesmen?  Fortunately, I learned long ago to always kick the tyres ... & don't sign anything ....        :-\
:lol :rollin
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2021, 12:25:58 PM
Patrick Lipinski will request a trade from the Western Bulldogs to either Collingwood or Carlton later this month, according to the Herald Sun.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/03/report-fringe-bulldog-to-request-trade-to-one-of-two-victorian-clubs/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2021, 05:52:44 PM
Anyone here tempted by this?


SUNS PREPARED TO SPLIT FOR MORE EARLY PICKS

The Gold Coast Suns are prepared to ‘split’ their prized first-round pick for multiple early draft selections, reports AFL Media.

Foxfooty.com.au reported in June the Suns were willing to offer their natural first draft selection — which has ended up being Pick 3 — to rival clubs during the trade period.

At that stage, the flagged move was a bid to help them lure an experienced rival player — preferably a key forward to partner Ben King — to the club.

At this stage, Richmond, Brisbane and the Giants all hold two first-round picks in this year’s national draft.

With draft experts believing the early part of the 2021 draft pool is relatively even, the Suns could trade Pick 3 away to a rival club with several first-round selections yet was keen to move up the draft order.

Not only do the Suns currently hold Pick 3, they also have Picks 19 and 22, with the first selection part of the assistance package they received from the AFL after the 2019 season, which saw them finish on the bottom of the ladder with just three wins.

However the AFL is now reportedly reviewing that start-of-first-round draft selection.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/adelaide-crows/afl-news-2021-latest-trades-trade-whispers-out-of-contract-players-state-of-play-free-agents-nick-daicos-collingwood-magpies-gold-coast-suns-matt-crouch-future-adelaide-crows/news-story/b2c94de354dc1272d0cceba4715f0c26?recommendedCount=0
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on September 03, 2021, 06:07:47 PM
If the cats lose, 9 and 14 for 3 and 22?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on September 03, 2021, 07:18:42 PM
I think u are getting your picks mixed up

Including the 2 F/S

It would be pick 9 and 16 for pick 5 and 24
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on September 03, 2021, 08:07:12 PM
Isnt the rating that the top 4 picks are stanouts then it is relatively even through to 30??

If that is the case then why give up 2 first rounders just to move to first pick of the even group?.

Rather have more picks in top 20 not less
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on September 03, 2021, 08:31:38 PM
I think u are getting your picks mixed up

Including the 2 F/S

It would be pick 9 and 16 for pick 5 and 24

11 and 16?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2021, 08:53:47 PM
Adelaide coach Matthew Nicks admits he is concerned about whether the club can re-sign midfielder Matthew Crouch.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/03/adelaide-coach-admits-concern-in-attempts-to-re-sign-all-australian/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 03, 2021, 09:22:08 PM
Reckon GWS might be into CCJ after tonight...straight swap for Tom Green.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 04, 2021, 08:51:02 AM
Reckon GWS might be into CCJ after tonight...straight swap for Tom Green.... :shh

It's an indictment on that club that Mumford is still their best/only genuine ruck option.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 04, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
Adelaide's Matt Crouch has been wiped off the list of available restricted free agents after committing to a new two-year deal to remain with the Crows.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/674185/off-the-market-star-free-agent-re-signs-with-crows
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 04, 2021, 04:38:35 PM
Reckon GWS might be into CCJ after tonight...straight swap for Tom Green.... :shh
Id do that deal.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 04, 2021, 05:53:02 PM
Unfortunately don't think Giants do.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on September 04, 2021, 06:51:55 PM
Need to keep CCJ and Chol IMHO
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 04, 2021, 09:49:34 PM
Sam Edmund has outlined the current trade and free agency scenario at Hawthorn, saying the club wants to keep both Jack Gunston and Tom Mitchell, but were “more inclined” to let the latter explore his options.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/04/no-guarantees-future-of-two-experienced-hawks-up-in-the-air/

North Melbourne is facing delicate negotiations with two of its star veterans as it plots another off-season of change. Captain Jack Ziebell and Robbie Tarrant remain out of contract as unrestricted free agents.

Shaun Atley and Tom Campbell have been told to wait on any new contracts, while Trent Dumont is in the shop window as an unrestricted free agent.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/04/north-melbourne-facing-delicate-contract-negotiations-with-several-star/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 04, 2021, 11:11:16 PM
Quote from: James Durkin
When do Richmond confirm narkle is joining them
Quote from: @AFLTradeWhisper
They won’t, because at this stage, he’s not… #AskTheWhisp
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/1434060807889817603


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 05, 2021, 11:44:51 AM
The Trade Whisperer.  Has he ever got one right?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 05, 2021, 01:17:09 PM
Surely that sponsorship can't be legit - it's a stuffing troll account ffs... :huh

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 05, 2021, 08:10:59 PM
It's the time of year were ex list managers who got canned come out of the woodwork to remain relevant.
The articles are coming out already from Rendell & others. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: lamington on September 05, 2021, 09:42:42 PM
Not that we should sell the farm to get him but holy moly! Neale might be heading back to freo! What happened there?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 06, 2021, 10:43:11 AM
Not that we should sell the farm to get him but holy moly! Neale might be heading back to freo! What happened there?
Took Brisbane by surprise. They haven't even spoken to Neale.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/674652/-it-s-all-news-to-us-brisbane-set-to-make-statement-on-neale-trade-talk

Neale and his wife are wanting to start and raise a family in WA.

https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSPerth/

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 06, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
From Foxsports:

RICHMOND

The Tigers are a fascinating case study. They don’t necessarily need to add much, they just need to figure out who they’re willing to let go. One of Mabior Chol or Callum Coleman-Jones will likely not be there next year, while they’ve already made a tough call on Bachar Houli. With Trent Cotchin not at the level we’ve come to expect, the midfield could do with a boost. Patrick Lipinski is looking for more opportunity and could add to the next wave of midfield talent coming through at Tigerland. The biggest weapon the Tigers have coming into this off-season is their draft hand: Picks 7, 16, 26 and 28 give them plenty of scope at the trade table, but also a great chance to regenerate via the draft. Richmond’s decision to decision to pull out of the race for Adam Cerra is further evidence the club is primarily focused on the draft.

Gold Coast

Gold Coast would consider Rory Lobb if he was willing to accept a pay cut. But the Suns might try to avoid using Pick 3 on a player like Lobb. If a play for Lobb doesn’t eventuate, Gold Coast could also look at off-contract Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones.

GWS

With Shane Mumford likely to retire, they’d be hoping 2020 recruit Braydon Preuss can fill his shoes. But could they find someone to help both in the ruck and up forward? One of Richmond duo Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol, or perhaps Collingwood’s Max Lynch, could work.

WESTERN BULLDOGS

The Dogs’ first priority is making sure they’re all set points-wise to take father-son prospect Sam Darcy, who has launched himself into top three contention in this year’s pool. As a result, they’re very unlikely to be trading any significant picks out. Likely to help them in the picks (and therefore points) department is the looming departures of Patrick Lipinski and Mitch Wallis.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-every-club-trade-wishlist-draft-picks-state-of-play/news-story/e43d8881f5213a430398ef25f46e5421
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 06, 2021, 04:09:26 PM
The wildcard in play is Cerra: While Melbourne has emerged as a potential suitor, the Dockers will now be hoping to get a deal done with Carlton, which has pick No.6 as its first selection as opposed to Melbourne’s pick No.34.

Future picks in a deal with Carlton are far more preferable than those from Melbourne, too, given the Dees are all-but-certain to finish higher on the ladder than the Blues in 2022.

Get pick No.6 from the Blues and the Dockers all of a sudden have more than enough capital to get a deal done to bring Neale back to the club.

Picks 6 and 8 for Neale and the Lions’ pick No.14 looms as a suitable trade for all parties, offsetting the idea of giving up two first-rounders by getting a later one back the other way.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-lachie-neale-trade-brisbane-to-fremantle-current-contract-how-does-it-happen-adam-cerra-luke-parker/news-story/7331d4b16b7b3cb4bcf2a988212284db
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on September 06, 2021, 05:24:53 PM
If Brisbane gets pick 6 it would be bad news.  Their recruiting philosophy is to take Vic Country boys so all of Hobbs, Rachell or Gibcus are potential targets which cuts the options for us.  Freo would have likely taken Erasmus
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 06, 2021, 06:34:24 PM
If Brisbane gets pick 6 it would be bad news.  Their recruiting philosophy is to take Vic Country boys so all of Hobbs, Rachell or Gibcus are potential targets which cuts the options for us.  Freo would have likely taken Erasmus

Yes would hate to have the chances of Erasmus still being available at our first pick increased... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2021, 01:37:44 AM
Tom [Mitchell] might have a couple of clubs asking for him now.

According to a poster on our [Hawks] board with some mail Richmond are sniffing.


https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-mitchell-ooc-2023.1271622/post-72030211
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2021, 10:44:42 AM
Tom [Mitchell] might have a couple of clubs asking for him now.

According to a poster on our [Hawks] board with some mail Richmond are sniffing.


https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-mitchell-ooc-2023.1271622/post-72030211
Well money won't be an issue as the Hawks could chip in a fairly large chunk of the salary, it would just depend on if Richmond are looking to hit the Draft or not.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-mitchell-ooc-2023.1271622/post-72035371
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 07, 2021, 12:21:54 PM
Tom [Mitchell] might have a couple of clubs asking for him now.

According to a poster on our [Hawks] board with some mail Richmond are sniffing.


https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-mitchell-ooc-2023.1271622/post-72030211
Well money won't be an issue as the Hawks could chip in a fairly large chunk of the salary, it would just depend on if Richmond are looking to hit the Draft or not.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-mitchell-ooc-2023.1271622/post-72035371
Do not touch tigers  >:(

No, No ...NO


Edit: Fixed quoting tags.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 07, 2021, 12:29:37 PM
The only midfielder I would trade our picks for is Jack Steele, and that ain’t going to happen
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on September 07, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
Tom [Mitchell] might have a couple of clubs asking for him now.

According to a poster on our [Hawks] board with some mail Richmond are sniffing.


https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-mitchell-ooc-2023.1271622/post-72030211

Why did someone from big footy notice that Mitchell walked past Punt road oval and pass wind in our general direction?

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 07, 2021, 01:29:25 PM
The only midfielder I would trade our picks for is Jack Steele, and that ain’t going to happen

 :clapping
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 07, 2021, 02:23:24 PM
I'd trade them for Tom Green... :shh




Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 07, 2021, 02:23:46 PM
Account only has 5 followers so a pinch of the old Saxa may be required...

https://twitter.com/BreakingNewsAFL/status/1434683823111823361

 :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Jobba on September 07, 2021, 02:25:33 PM
Account only has 5 followers so a pinch of the old Saxa may be required...

https://twitter.com/BreakingNewsAFL/status/1434683823111823361

 :shh

Isn’t Marbs a free agent and wouldn’t have to request anything?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Tragic on September 07, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
Account only has 5 followers so a pinch of the old Saxa may be required...

https://twitter.com/BreakingNewsAFL/status/1434683823111823361

 :shh

Also, why would a free agent request a trade?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 07, 2021, 02:35:21 PM
Like I said...5 followers... :shh

Other "rumours" I've seen on the wide wonderful web today:

Prestia & Lambert up for trade...

Dusty off to the Brisbane....

We're apparently now getting Michael Talia(not a typo).....

 :birthday


Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: JP Tiger on September 07, 2021, 03:43:45 PM
Dusty to Brissy eh? 
The only reason to let Dusty go to Brissy is to smack the pee out of Rhys Mathieson ... then come home again ...      :clapping
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2021, 06:13:39 PM
Cam Guthrie off the table. Signed a 4-year deal to stay at Geelong. It will take him to the age of 33.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/674784/star-midfielder-cam-guthrie-re-signs-with-geelong-cats-with-fresh-four-year-extension
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 07, 2021, 06:21:35 PM
Surprised Cats didn’t sign him for a booster shot of astrazenca and a 3 year option on top of his 4 years
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Tragic on September 07, 2021, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: Diocletian link=topic=30883.msg707975#msg707975
We're apparently now getting Michael Talia(not a typo).....

 :birthday
[/quote

If we are getting Jenny Talia for the girls team, I'm impressed
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 07, 2021, 10:16:20 PM
Heh...

(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/img_2586-jpg.1228977/)

  :winner
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 08, 2021, 12:01:32 AM
Also overrated IMO. No tank, not quick, gets no ball.

Poor, poor man's Dusty wannabe.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2021, 10:56:38 AM
Sam Edmund on SEN:

Txt: Take it to the bank - Tom Mitchell to Richmond.

Edmund: [Gave the generic reply] Only would leave Hawthorn if there's a too good an offer to refuse. Not linked to any other club according to his info.

Txt: Take it to the bank - 3-way swap between Freo, Port & Essendon. Essendon get Cerra & Freo get Shiel.

Edmund: Shiel staying at Essendon.


Txt: Swans George Hewett & Dylan Stephens to Collingwood for Darcy Moore.

Edmund: No. Hewett going to Carlton.


Edmund: Carlton remain the only viable option for Cerra at this stage (in terms of picks & $$$) but Melbourne could pull the rug underneath them.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2021, 12:34:26 PM
Luke Parker has re-signed with the Swans for 4 years. Another one off the trade table.

https://twitter.com/sydneyswans/status/1435427107039891462
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 08, 2021, 01:02:56 PM
Looks like the old "Carlton Salary Cap" is in full effect again.... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2021, 03:48:54 PM
Got to love this time of the year  :rollin.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-vLFV3VgAA9usW?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/TheGas80/status/1435464204127903748
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on September 08, 2021, 06:49:18 PM
 Do not give up any picks for Mitchell
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 08, 2021, 07:46:04 PM
How can Melbourne afford Adam Cerra??
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 08, 2021, 08:20:48 PM
Got to love this time of the year  :rollin.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-vLFV3VgAA9usW?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/TheGas80/status/1435464204127903748

Seems like overs. No way
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on September 08, 2021, 08:42:22 PM
Got to love this time of the year  :rollin.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-vLFV3VgAA9usW?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/TheGas80/status/1435464204127903748

I'll have a go - Mitchell and Pick 21 for Pick 44 - Is as sensible as that offer
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2021, 10:07:16 AM
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/screenshot_20210906-104331_chrome-jpg.1230111/)
https://demonland.com/forums/topic/50944-the-adam-cerra-thread/page/10/?tab=comments#comment-2046008
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2021, 10:37:09 AM
Apparently on MMM Perth, Nathan Schmook said Cerra will end up at one of Carlton, Melbourne or Richmond. We've have been in and out of the Cerra situation all year.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2021, 10:38:22 AM
SUNS TARGETING KEY TIGERS DUO

The Gold Coast Suns are keen on poaching both Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol from Richmond in the upcoming trade period.

Coleman-Jones and Chol loom as key signings for Richmond, but both remain uncontracted for 2022 despite impressive showings in the senior side this year.

Speaking to Fox Sports News reporter Sarah Olle, foxfooty.com.au senior reporter Tom Morris said the key position pair were on the radar for the Suns.

“Make no mistake, Gold Coast would be prepared to offer multi-year deals for Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol, he said on AFL Tonight.

“They‘re desperate for a key forward to partner Ben King, who we know is out of contract at the end of next year.

“Chol is a free agent and as a result he can pick where he wants to go. There’ll be a deal on the table for him at the Tigers but he’s likely to get more years elsewhere.

Coleman-Jones is out of contract too - Richmond, if they had to pick one, they wouldn’t say it publicly, would prefer to keep Coleman-Jones over Chol, even though they’d probably like to keep both.

“Gold Coast is in for both.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-trades-player-movement-free-agents-contracted-players-trade-whispers-callum-coleman-jones-mabior-chol-adam-cerra/news-story/4dcc7c57acc13b1352b47bd41aa28e6f
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2021, 11:26:19 AM
Lachie Neale has announced he is staying at the Brisbane Lions.

https://twitter.com/Sammy__Edmund/status/1435774300770865159

https://www.lions.com.au/video/1014650/lachie-neale-addresses-his-future


Another one off the potential trade table.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: georgies31 on September 09, 2021, 11:34:33 AM
I'll be asking the sun's overs for CCJ If he wants to go bigtime.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on September 09, 2021, 01:23:34 PM
Id ask for Noah Anderson
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on September 09, 2021, 02:15:42 PM
They gave a top 3 pick for Lachie Weller. I'd be asking for their first pick.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 09, 2021, 02:31:18 PM
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/img_6252-jpg.1230223/)

:propeller
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 09, 2021, 02:51:39 PM
Would love Steele but you'd have to be crazy to pay him more than 700-850 IMO.

I believe we were really keen on him before he went to Saints. Might have even been a mad RFC fan?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on September 09, 2021, 04:21:04 PM
$1.1million for Steele wowee

over two season maybe not every season
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 09, 2021, 04:46:03 PM
We don’t have cap space
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 09, 2021, 06:55:57 PM
Lol wow these Facebook/Twitter/big footy “in the know” groups are ridiculous. That story doesn’t make sense from either the saints, tigers or steeles side of things.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2021, 07:08:34 PM
They gave a top 3 pick for Lachie Weller. I'd be asking for their first pick.
Suns supporters ( both of them  ;D ) on their forum are throwing up their pick 22 for CCJ.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 09, 2021, 07:59:05 PM
They gave a top 3 pick for Lachie Weller. I'd be asking for their first pick.

One thing is for sure - they’ll be some competition for his signature.  GWS desperately need a ruck, Crows as well, Doggies they’ll be plenty of offer floating around so a mid to late first rounder is a real possibility
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 09, 2021, 08:50:39 PM
I'd say pick 3 & 19
For Pick 7, & CCJ. 
But rather keep him. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on September 09, 2021, 09:20:40 PM
Need to keep him, be surprised if he goes
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 09, 2021, 09:35:07 PM
I'd say pick 3 & 19
For Pick 7, & CCJ. 
But rather keep him.

I’d like to keep him too but if that’s the deal then suspect the club would take it without batting an eye.

Think a lot on here are hugely overrating what could get for him in a trade considering he’s played all of what 10 games? I’d say at the most we’d be looking at a second rounder something mid to late 20s
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2021, 01:54:36 AM
"North are sniffing around Colina"

Source: Facebook (according to BF).
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 10, 2021, 07:36:13 AM
Need to keep him, be surprised if he goes

I think you’ll end up surprised….
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 10, 2021, 08:45:56 AM
Need to keep him, be surprised if he goes

I think you’ll end up surprised….

Gut feel or do you know?

I can’t see how we will let him go, and be left with our best forward being a 33 year old. Stupid.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: taztiger4 on September 10, 2021, 08:46:50 AM
Id ask for Noah Anderson

He is / was a Richmond suppporter
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2021, 10:25:49 AM
Jacob Hopper has re-signed for two years with GWS.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675244/off-the-table-midfield-bull-signs-contract-extension-after-best-season

Yet another off the trade table.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2021, 12:47:41 PM
From Barrett's Sliding Doors column:

IF ...
Tom Mitchell has moved clubs once before ...

THEN ...
the footy industry talk on it happening again just won't go away. Joined the Hawks to play under Clarko in a premiership. Clarko's gone, and the Hawks are as close to a flag as Jeff is to being invited to Clarko's house for Christmas lunch.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675045/sliding-doors-if-tom-mitchell-has-moved-clubs-once-before-then
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 10, 2021, 01:29:38 PM
Jacob Hopper has re-signed for two years with GWS.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675244/off-the-table-midfield-bull-signs-contract-extension-after-best-season

Yet another off the trade table.
Were never getting Jacob Hopper.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 10, 2021, 03:14:35 PM
Jake Kelly has signed with Essendon as a restricted free agent.  Solid get. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2021, 05:00:42 PM
Gold Coast fan:

I tell you what if we were to give you pick 3 would you give us CCJ and Geelongs first rounder?

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-and-trade-period.1253885/post-72078432
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2021, 05:10:51 PM
Billings four-year deal only days away.

Which leaves a single restricted free agent. The update on a total fizzer of a free agency period & your club's free agent.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-news-on-player-movement-in-the-afl/news-story/29ed5424048f815c3d32c0f035307343
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 10, 2021, 05:38:07 PM
Gold Coast fan:

I tell you what if we were to give you pick 3 would you give us CCJ and Geelongs first rounder?

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-and-trade-period.1253885/post-72078432

Yes. :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on September 10, 2021, 05:56:13 PM
Id want a 3rd rounder coming back our way as well.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 10, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
Lack of exposure makes this draft pretty speculative outside the top 5/10...might be an idea to trade the seconds & thirds for future picks and just go in with 7 early (or 3 & 7 under the CCJ trade scenario floated above)...find some hidden gens with late picks PSD/RD/SSP/22MSD...hit next year's draft hard with kids from that crop hopefully getting full seasons and a full carnival in and/or grab Tom Green...not as "sexy" or exciting in the short term but could serve us better in the long run... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 10, 2021, 07:47:18 PM
Gold Coast fan:

I tell you what if we were to give you pick 3 would you give us CCJ and Geelongs first rounder?

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-and-trade-period.1253885/post-72078432

Yes. :shh


Definitely. In a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
Points wise it's fair. Swapping pick 16 for 3 is 1167 pts. So effectively we would be giving up CCJ for pick 14.

Id want a 3rd rounder coming back our way as well.
I agree if they're going to get Chol for nothing as well. That would be their pick 43.

That would leave us with 3, 7, 26, 28, 40, 43, 44.

Then try to see if we can bundle a couple of those 2nd/3rd picks to get another pick in the teens.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 10, 2021, 08:59:26 PM
Id want a 3rd rounder coming back our way as well.

Nah won't happen. 3 for CCJ+16 is a bargain for us.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on September 10, 2021, 09:31:56 PM
It would be for Chol as well, I would hope we keep CCJ
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 10, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Geelong shopping for a ruckman I'd say.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 10, 2021, 09:44:04 PM
Geelong shopping for a ruckman I'd say.

And rightly so but fmd Gawn is having a game for the history books.

What a player.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2021, 02:30:33 AM
Sydney’s Jordan Dawson has requested a trade home to South Australia.

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1436247737230495744
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2021, 12:33:52 PM
“Jordan Clark (is) keen to head home for a lack of opportunities back to Perth, likely Fremantle.

Quinton Narkle would consider offers elsewhere, he was only an emergency tonight,” Ralph said.

“Charlie Constable just desperate to play elsewhere, he’s too good for VFL.

And swingman Nathan Krueger is being courted by Collingwood again.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/geelong-cats/afl-news-2021-trades-player-movement-free-agents-contracted-players-trade-whispers-geelong-cats-preliminary-final-loss-to-melbourne-demons-jordan-clark-quinton-narkle-charlie-constable-nathan-krueger-futures/news-story/2abd3dbb3dc60c9df673b17dfa37efd5
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 11, 2021, 12:56:14 PM
Dunno much about Krueger but always handy to have a swingman...presuming he's any good...not getting games ahead of Collar Jazz Knee suggest he probably ain't... :shh

Would prefer Constable to Narkle...and I don't want Constable... :shh :shh.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2021, 01:39:45 PM
Sydney’s Jordan Dawson has requested a trade home to South Australia.

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1436247737230495744
Jordan Dawson most likely to land at Port Adelaide - 12 months after Aliir Aliir made the same move. Sources say Dawson wanted to stay a Swan but player & club couldn’t find common ground on contract amid salary cap squeeze. Adel-Syd cost of living difference said to be a factor.

https://twitter.com/Sammy__Edmund/status/1436527334085971968
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2021, 02:43:31 PM
Fremantle Dockers eyeing Will Brodie from Gold Coast to help fill Adam Cerra void.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/fremantle-dockers/afl-trades-fremantle-dockers-eyeing-will-brodie-from-gold-coast-to-help-fill-adam-cerra-void-c-3928635

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 11, 2021, 02:55:44 PM
Which means we won't be getting the dud so thank stuff for that.#JacobBallardmkII :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 11, 2021, 02:56:19 PM
Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)

He’s going to be a really interesting watch,” Sam Edmund said.

“It might be the case of Lachie Neale off the table and Tom Mitchell on, I think he’s far from certain to stay at Hawthorn and think he’s fairly keen to move on.

“Watch this space on Tom Mitchell.”

Jarrod Brander (West Coast)

“He’s still waiting to learn his fate at West Coast,” he said.
“I believe Geelong has an ongoing interest in Jarrod Brander, he was a boarder at Geelong Grammar before being drafted high and I’m told there’s an ongoing interest there. The Cats think they can turn him into something special.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/11/sam-edmunds-trade-update-on-a-watch-this-space-hawk-jarrod-brander-and/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 12, 2021, 02:43:03 PM
Daniel Talia

One of the most experienced delisted players on the market, the key defender was unable to add to his tally of 200 games at Adelaide this year due to knee and foot injuries. If his body is right, Talia could well be the icing on the cake for a side, able to lock down on some of the most powerful key forwards in the competition. At 29, the two-time Therabody AFL All-Australian should still have plenty to give.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675147/worth-a-look-the-delisted-players-who-could-find-a-new-home
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 12, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
Club-defining calls and tricky negotiations: Every AFL club’s burning trade question

Max Laughton, Ben Waterworth and David Zita from Fox Sports
Foxsports
September 12th, 2021 6:08 pm


RICHMOND

They’re loaded with picks for the first time in years; how many do you trade and how many do you keep?


Compared to the past five years, the Tigers are now in unfamiliar territory.

Not only did they miss finals this year, they’re now approaching a trade period with a stacked draft hand that includes two picks in each of the first, second and third rounds.

The Tigers could also add more picks to their arsenal should Callum Coleman-Jones (trade) and/or Mabior Chol (free agency) ask to move to a rival club.

That would give the Tigers ample scope at the trade table to add players to a list still seen by experts as flag contenders next year, yet it would also present them with a golden chance to regenerate via the draft.

Considering their predicament, you’d expect the Tigers to retain the majority of their early picks, but they’re arguably better placed than any other club to strike a juicy deal for a big fish, should one emerge.

At this stage, though, there’s not a lot of big fish for sale.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2021-every-clubs-burning-trade-question-analysis-adam-cerra-jordan-dawson-draft-picks-rebuilds-list-calls/news-story/739de32eb77d8d6134897670c9f538a1
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 12, 2021, 11:26:22 PM
Quote from: yallah
Tom Mitchell to Richmond for their two top 20 picks but not 10? I think they have 11,16
Quote from: Continental Tyres AFL Trade Whisperer
I don’t believe Mitchell has officially requested a trade, but I think 11 and 16 would get it done if he did 
https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper/status/1436996692281212929

:facepalm :stupid


Quote from: AFL Trade Rumour Ranker
Josh Battle likely to stay at the Saints despite rumours.

Source tier = 2️⃣
@cleary_mitch
https://twitter.com/RankerAfl/status/1437005393310281732
 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on September 13, 2021, 07:45:32 AM
Please do not use any draft picks for Mitchell

Go to the draft. Free agents only
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 13, 2021, 11:12:12 AM
I pick they are trading Mitchell as he is not in their premiership window and still has currency.

Picking him up would be a grave mistake imho
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2021, 11:25:02 AM
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/img_6252-jpg.1230223/)

:propeller
Seems some nuffer on Facebook is now claiming Kmac & a pick for Steele  :wallywink.


Kmac just re-signed for two more years and the Saints aren't giving away Steele.

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2021, 12:22:42 PM
Could Carlton miss out on Adam Cerra? He's in no rush to announce his plans and another club is in the picture, reports
@RalphyHeraldSun.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-news-on-player-movement-in-the-afl/news-story/29ed5424048f815c3d32c0f035307343

Quote from: Luke Jones
Tigers aren’t out of the picture

https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1437233380077158400
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2021, 05:31:16 PM
"Cerra to the Tigers?

They are still well and truly in the premiership window and he would step straight in as a long term midfielder who compliments their existing setup. Who says no?

Tigers get Cerra and Pick 27.

Freo get Pick 7, 15 and 44."

https://twitter.com/LysticsAFL/status/1437308466201120768
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2021, 05:33:10 PM
"take this with a grain of salt and i have no idea about the credibility but thought i would post it anyway

Mate is a carlton supporter and he has a client thats on the GC (GC supporter)
Thinks Cj is just about a done deal and the suns are confident.
apparently played alot of junior footy with the suns SA kids that he is close to.

i think he stays otherwise would have known already but this latest "news" my mate told me got me thinking. Im sure it would be more about the length and $$$ and not just the players at the suns"

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-talk-pt-3.1275237/post-72152114
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 13, 2021, 05:34:11 PM
"Cerra to the Tigers?

They are still well and truly in the premiership window and he would step straight in as a long term midfielder who compliments their existing setup. Who says no?

Tigers get Cerra and Pick 27.

Freo get Pick 7, 15 and 44."

https://twitter.com/LysticsAFL/status/1437308466201120768

I say no.  :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Rampsation on September 13, 2021, 05:34:20 PM
Cerra to the Tigers?

They are still well and truly in the premiership window and he would step straight in as a long term midfielder who compliments their existing setup. Who says no?

Tigers get Cerra and Pick 27.

Freo get Pick 7, 15 and 44.

https://twitter.com/LysticsAFL/status/1437308466201120768

No

We get screwed in that deal.

Cerra for 15 and pickett
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 13, 2021, 05:37:59 PM
"ITS OFFICAL!!!!!!!!!!

Mabior Chol will Don The Sash in 2022 no news has been confirmed yet but what a pickup by the Bombers.

Chol is set to announce his request this week or next week!!!!!!!!

🔴⚫️"

https://twitter.com/DRalphsmith/status/1437234651416829955



@ScooterMcNeice Replying to @DRalphsmith

If only you hadn't just joined twitter, not an actual AFL journalist and your photo wasn't stolen from a HR firm website... then i would believe you lol

https://twitter.com/ScooterMcNeice/status/1437248112699924481

 :lol
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Knighter on September 13, 2021, 06:01:44 PM
"Cerra to the Tigers?

They are still well and truly in the premiership window and he would step straight in as a long term midfielder who compliments their existing setup. Who says no?

Tigers get Cerra and Pick 27.

Freo get Pick 7, 15 and 44."

https://twitter.com/LysticsAFL/status/1437308466201120768

How about GAGF'd.  We don't need a soft outside front runner for any pick let alone that lot
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Gracie on September 13, 2021, 09:26:51 PM
"Cerra to the Tigers?

They are still well and truly in the premiership window and he would step straight in as a long term midfielder who compliments their existing setup. Who says no?

Tigers get Cerra and Pick 27.

Freo get Pick 7, 15 and 44."

https://twitter.com/LysticsAFL/status/1437308466201120768

On pure point value that Values Cerra @ pick 3 value. No value to us

Pick 7 alone or 15 and 44 (values Cerra @ pick 9)

Rather go to the draft especially if we are over paying on contract dollars
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: camboon on September 13, 2021, 11:24:36 PM
Agree, go to the draft unless we pick him up for a good price. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 14, 2021, 02:23:35 AM
Summary from last night's Tiger71 podcast:

- We're not giving up pick 7 as we have a young gun midfielder in mind that we want with that pick. It's a midfield draft and we want to fix our midfield with this draft.

- We're going to try to bundle our later picks to move up the draft trying to get another high-ish pick.

- Still in the play with Cerra and he still hasn't nominated a club yet. It's 50/50. We're just not giving up pick 7 for him. We're willing to part with our Geelong pick #15 or a future first. Melbourne are no chance. T71 thinks Cerra will go to Carlton although they are in a state (no coach, off-field shambles). His mate though is still bullish.

- CCJ a lock to Gold Coast. We will get a reasonably high pick or a player in return. Not Ainsworth or Brodie so don't worry.

- Chol is a funny one. Players want him to stay. But we'll give him our blessing to go. Thinks Mabs to Essendon.

- Wallis still in play.

- Narkle 100% is coming. For one of our third rounders.

- No truth in the Tarrant & Rayner rumours.

- Heard nothing about Talia. If we wanted an old key defender we would've kept Astbury for one more year.

- Tom Green more likely next year.

- Wouldn't be surprised if Pickett ends up back in WA.

- Parker coming back after the WAFL finals and will be with us again next year.

- Caddy staying. Not being traded on.

https://www.facebook.com/BigFootyTigercast/videos/992738251296754
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: yandb on September 14, 2021, 10:15:50 AM
So who goes? with all the players coming in a handful of players must be heading out.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on September 14, 2021, 11:12:27 AM
Summary from last night's Tiger71 podcast:

- We're not giving up pick 7 as we have a young gun midfielder in mind that we want with that pick. It's a midfield draft and we want to fix our midfield with this draft.

- We're going to try to bundle our later picks to move up the draft trying to get another high-ish pick.

- Still in the play with Cerra and he still hasn't nominated a club yet. It's 50/50. We're just not giving up pick 7 for him. We're willing to part with our Geelong pick #15 or a future first. Melbourne are no chance. T71 thinks Cerra will go to Carlton although they are in a state (no coach, off-field shambles). His mate though is still bullish.

- CCJ a lock to Gold Coast. We will get a reasonably high pick or a player in return. Not Ainsworth or Brodie so don't worry.

- Chol is a funny one. Players want him to stay. But we'll give him our blessing to go. Thinks Mabs to Essendon.

- Wallis still in play.

- Narkle 100% is coming. For one of our third rounders.

- No truth in the Tarrant & Rayner rumours.

- Heard nothing about Talia. If we wanted an old key defender we would've kept Astbury for one more year.

- Tom Green more likely next year.

- Wouldn't be surprised if Pickett ends up back in WA.

- Parker coming back after the WAFL finals and will be with us again next year.

- Caddy staying. Not being traded on.

https://www.facebook.com/BigFootyTigercast/videos/992738251296754

How reliable is this source, generally?
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 14, 2021, 01:14:26 PM
Billings has re-signed with St Kilda.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/676916/saints-confirm-long-deal-for-gun-free-agent-veteran-tall-not-done-yet


Hamish Hartlett says he will look at his options after he was told by Port Adelaide that he would not be offered a new contract.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/676915/no-bad-blood-port-cult-figure-culled-will-explore-options

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 14, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
Summary from last night's Tiger71 podcast:

- We're not giving up pick 7 as we have a young gun midfielder in mind that we want with that pick. It's a midfield draft and we want to fix our midfield with this draft.

- We're going to try to bundle our later picks to move up the draft trying to get another high-ish pick.

- Still in the play with Cerra and he still hasn't nominated a club yet. It's 50/50. We're just not giving up pick 7 for him. We're willing to part with our Geelong pick #15 or a future first. Melbourne are no chance. T71 thinks Cerra will go to Carlton although they are in a state (no coach, off-field shambles). His mate though is still bullish.

- CCJ a lock to Gold Coast. We will get a reasonably high pick or a player in return. Not Ainsworth or Brodie so don't worry.

- Chol is a funny one. Players want him to stay. But we'll give him our blessing to go. Thinks Mabs to Essendon.

- Wallis still in play.

- Narkle 100% is coming. For one of our third rounders.

- No truth in the Tarrant & Rayner rumours.

- Heard nothing about Talia. If we wanted an old key defender we would've kept Astbury for one more year.

- Tom Green more likely next year.

- Wouldn't be surprised if Pickett ends up back in WA.

- Parker coming back after the WAFL finals and will be with us again next year.

- Caddy staying. Not being traded on.

https://www.facebook.com/BigFootyTigercast/videos/992738251296754

How reliable is this source, generally?

Personally don't rate him at all...regarded as some kind of guru by the most of Big Footy's Richmond board but the only "scoops" he does get right are usually common knowledge already....comes across to me as a bit of a fast talking b.s. artist on the podcast... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 14, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
Sam Edmund on SEN:

Daniel Talia (Adelaide)

“I think there’s a pretty good chance that he becomes a Richmond player as a delisted free agent, I think he can play for another two to three years.”

“We know he had some bad luck with injury this year, he didn’t attend the Crows best and fairest, he does have a point to prove at 29, he’d be joining for nothing in a trade sense.

“We know that David Astbury and Bachar Houli are not playing so they’ve lost some experience in the back half and I think he’d compliment Noah Balta perfectly.”

Quinton Narkle (Geelong)

“Richmond’s the one that comes up every time, he’s really good mates with Shai Bolton, they’ve got the same manager so there’s a conduit there, I’m not sure rival clubs are banging the door on, there are some queries on a few things but he might make sense at Richmond for all the reasons we mentioned.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/14/sam-edmunds-trade-wrap-silvagni-wicks-talia-brander-and-more/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 14, 2021, 03:42:34 PM
Brisbane ruckman Archie Smith has made the decision to depart the football club.

The 26-year-old has requested a trade after struggling to break into the Lions’ best 22.

Smith has played 16 career games for the Lions since joining the club in 2014. He did not feature at AFL level in 2021, stuck behind Oscar McInerney.

Clubs across the competition are in need of ruck depth, including the likes of Gold Coast, GWS, North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/14/brisbane-ruckman-requests-a-trade/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 14, 2021, 05:40:16 PM
Off topic: Apparently Irving Mosquito who did his knee early in the season retired the other day....basically said he couldn't be arsed doing the rehab... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: wayne on September 14, 2021, 06:23:26 PM
Off topic: Apparently Irving Mosquito who did his knee early in the season retired the other day....basically said he couldn't be arsed doing the rehab... :shh

He lived with an old school mate of mine in Stratty before he was drafted. When he did his knee, the club contacted another mate of mine to help him rehab because they were worried he wouldn't be very diligent.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 14, 2021, 06:54:55 PM
Who the hell is Archie Smith.  Big trade week coming with the likes of him and CCJ taking top billing!! 

Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 14, 2021, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: AFL Trade Rumour Ranker
Gold Coast Suns are keen on Mitch Wallis but don't have a lot of cash to splash. Where will he end up?

Source tier = 2️⃣
@tommorris32

Quote from: Tom Morris
According to me? No.
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/with_replies

lol.
 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 14, 2021, 08:06:37 PM
Off topic: Apparently Irving Mosquito who did his knee early in the season retired the other day....basically said he couldn't be arsed doing the rehab... :shh

He lived with an old school mate of mine in Stratty before he was drafted. When he did his knee, the club contacted another mate of mine to help him rehab because they were worried he wouldn't be very diligent.

Yeah he was delisted by the bombers yesterday.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 15, 2021, 03:35:02 AM
Mitch Cleary says we should offer Tarrant two years (North have a one-year deal on the table).

Also reckons we'll get Talia.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/676914/listen-where-will-dawson-land-how-does-it-get-done-

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As revealed by the Herald Sun this month, Daniel Talia is a strong chance to secure a list spot at the Tigers.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-news-on-player-movement-and-potential-trades-in-the-afl/news-story/902e05ce0c811960e3161633e63cdff6
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Willy on September 15, 2021, 10:17:05 AM
Summary from last night's Tiger71 podcast:

- We're not giving up pick 7 as we have a young gun midfielder in mind that we want with that pick. It's a midfield draft and we want to fix our midfield with this draft.

- We're going to try to bundle our later picks to move up the draft trying to get another high-ish pick.

- Still in the play with Cerra and he still hasn't nominated a club yet. It's 50/50. We're just not giving up pick 7 for him. We're willing to part with our Geelong pick #15 or a future first. Melbourne are no chance. T71 thinks Cerra will go to Carlton although they are in a state (no coach, off-field shambles). His mate though is still bullish.

- CCJ a lock to Gold Coast. We will get a reasonably high pick or a player in return. Not Ainsworth or Brodie so don't worry.

- Chol is a funny one. Players want him to stay. But we'll give him our blessing to go. Thinks Mabs to Essendon.

- Wallis still in play.

- Narkle 100% is coming. For one of our third rounders.

- No truth in the Tarrant & Rayner rumours.

- Heard nothing about Talia. If we wanted an old key defender we would've kept Astbury for one more year.

- Tom Green more likely next year.

- Wouldn't be surprised if Pickett ends up back in WA.

- Parker coming back after the WAFL finals and will be with us again next year.

- Caddy staying. Not being traded on.

https://www.facebook.com/BigFootyTigercast/videos/992738251296754

How reliable is this source, generally?

Personally don't rate him at all...regarded as some kind of guru by the most of Big Footy's Richmond board but the only "scoops" he does get right are usually common knowledge already....comes across to me as a bit of a fast talking b.s. artist on the podcast... :shh

OK. Cheers.
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 15, 2021, 01:24:41 PM
As for who could be added to Richmond’s list, SEN reported Crows free agent Daniel Talia and off-contract Cats midfielder Quinton Narkle had drawn interest from the Tigers.

SEN reporter Sam Edmund said there was “a pretty good chance” Talia, who wasn’t offered another contract by the Crows after his injury-plagued 2021 season, signs at Richmond as a delisted free agent after the retirements of David Astbury and Bachar Houli.

Talia, who turns 30 next month, can join the Tigers for no trade cost given he is available as a delisted free agent.

Edmund said there wasn’t a lot of rival club interest in Narkle, but added Richmond “comes up every time” as the club that’s a chance to land him.

Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/15/north-melbourne-to-land-richmond-ruckman-if-he-leaves-tigerland/) & Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-callum-colemanjones-north-melbourne-mabior-chol-gold-coast-dylan-stephens-collingwood/news-story/5b7fbb960c863f2f72af4ee6a1dc5d1f)
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 15, 2021, 03:03:35 PM
Trade exclusive

In a trade shock I’m told Giant Jeremy Finlayson has done a medical with Port Adelaide.

More details to follow @7NewsMelbourne @triplemfooty

https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/status/1437960783711772672
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: pmac21 on September 15, 2021, 04:02:00 PM
Trade exclusive

In a trade shock I’m told Giant Jeremy Finlayson has done a medical with Port Adelaide.

More details to follow @7NewsMelbourne @triplemfooty

https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7/status/1437960783711772672
This guy is a pretender.  He's no good. 
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Diocletian on September 15, 2021, 05:01:14 PM
How many more shyte finals performers do they need in their forward line - might as well go out and get Rohan as well... :shh
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 16, 2021, 01:37:48 PM
NARKLE POISED TO REMAIN WITH GEELONG

Quinton Narkle is poised to stay at Geelong, despite another season of speculation over his playing future.

But while rival clubs have enquired about Narkle, his manager Ralph Carr told SEN.com.au his client was likely to stay at GMHBA Stadium.

“To be totally transparent, we’re working through a deal (to stay). If we get the deal done, great, if we can’t get the deal done, he might go,” Carr said.

“But at this point I’m hopeful he’s going to stay and that we can get the right deal across the line.”

Carr, of RCM, said suggestions Narkle could move to Richmond had no basis.

“It’s never been anything but positive with the Cats from the day I started managing Quinton,” Carr said.

“They’ve been terrific, the Cats.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/16/narkle-poised-to-remain-with-geelong/
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: MaccaDacca on September 16, 2021, 02:47:29 PM
The headline doesn't match the story. Typical Ralph rhetoric
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: one-eyed on September 17, 2021, 03:55:30 AM
The flag contender that needs Tom Mitchell most

Consider the potential homes if Tom Mitchell did want to find a new home to help Hawthorn secure another early draft pick to add to picks five, 21 and 24.

North Melbourne, Adelaide and Collingwood are rebuilding and aren’t interested.

GWS, Geelong, West Coast, St Kilda, Essendon, Sydney, the Bulldogs, Geelong and Brisbane don’t need him.

Richmond isn’t interested, Gold Coast probably needs a Tom Mitchell type but will go with Touk Miller, Matt Rowell, Brayden Fiorini and co and will spend its cash on a key forward if it can find one.

Carlton is looking elsewhere, Melbourne also doesn’t need him.

It leaves only Port Adelaide as a club that is absolutely screaming out for a six-clearance-a-week midfielder to rebound after Saturday night’s gut-wrenching loss.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/moneyball-follow-all-the-latest-news-on-player-movement-and-potential-trades-in-the-afl/news-story/902e05ce0c811960e3161633e63cdff6
Title: Re: Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2021
Post by: Andyy on September 17, 2021, 06:37:25 AM
Glad we aren't getting Mitchell.

Narkle, I dunno. Wasn't gonna cost much. Not fussed.