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Quote from: Smokey on September 19, 2013, 08:01:20 AMWho gives 2 fat flying f***s about what Indonesia thinks of the policy of our government that has just been elected with a mandate (in part) to stop the boats? It's our f***ing country, our f***ing borders, our f***ing national security and we'll run it our f***ing way, not kowtow to what ever other countries say we should do (and I include the US, Great Britain, France, New Zealand and all the others in that too). And maybe the Indonesians should wait until they hear from the government itself in formal talks what the actual policy is instead of relying on media reports and speculation. And here's one for the 'concerned' Indonesians - provide the asylum yourself and stop the drownings at your own border if the notion of us not accepting the illegal immigrants offends you so deeply. Don't think I would want to be your neighbour.Or is that different and you try to get along with your neighbours?
Who gives 2 fat flying f***s about what Indonesia thinks of the policy of our government that has just been elected with a mandate (in part) to stop the boats? It's our f***ing country, our f***ing borders, our f***ing national security and we'll run it our f***ing way, not kowtow to what ever other countries say we should do (and I include the US, Great Britain, France, New Zealand and all the others in that too). And maybe the Indonesians should wait until they hear from the government itself in formal talks what the actual policy is instead of relying on media reports and speculation. And here's one for the 'concerned' Indonesians - provide the asylum yourself and stop the drownings at your own border if the notion of us not accepting the illegal immigrants offends you so deeply.
I consider myself to be a good neighbour '65 - I don't tell my neighbours how to live their life, I respect their proximity to mine in my lifestyle choices, and I ask nothing but the same courtesy in return. And if they were deliberately opening their gates or fences and assisting any form of human or animal traffic through to my block without talking to me first, I would take it up with them initially but then reserve the right to resolve it myself in my way if they didn't want to co-operate. Sound familiar?
I take it then, you would roll over and let them keep invading your land - potentially risking your family, your space, your privacy?And the answer is yes, I will protect and defend my family on my land to the death if necessary so if conflict is the final outcome then conflict it is.
No rambling just an article from the Age about Indonesia's reaction to our new border protection policies.Tony Abbott's asylum seeker policies 'offensive', says senior Indonesian politicianDate September 19, 2013 Michael Bachelard Michael BachelardAnother senior Indonesian politician has described Tony Abbott’s asylum seeker policies as “very offensive” and an attack on his country’s sovereignty, adding that if they were not changed they would damage the bilateral relationship.The comment by parliamentarian Tantowi Yahya is the latest in a series of slights to one of the Prime Minister’s signature policies, and Fairfax Media has confirmed antipathy to it exists across Indonesia’s political spectrum...............Mr Tantowi is a member of the Indonesian parliament’s “Commission I”, responsible for foreign affairs. He told the ABC’s Lateline program on Wednesday that there were no circumstances under which Indonesia would accept Mr Abbott’s boat tow-back policy.“No, we don't agree with that. This is, I can say, something like a consensus between the Government and the parliament not to agree with the plan which is now being projected by the new Prime Minister, Mr Tony Abbott,” Mr Tantowi said.The policy “annoys our sovereignty as an independent country.”“I think the policy will be very offensive and we in the parliaments fully support what was said by our foreign ministers, that we will fully reject the policy,” Mr Tantowi said.Mr Tantowi is a member of the Golkar Party, and in Mr Yudhoyono's governing coalition.
Quote from: Smokey on September 19, 2013, 10:42:34 AMI take it then, you would roll over and let them keep invading your land - potentially risking your family, your space, your privacy?And the answer is yes, I will protect and defend my family on my land to the death if necessary so if conflict is the final outcome then conflict it is. No you misunderstand.Wouldn't a little tact and diplomacy be worth it if it avoids the conflict?
400 million Muslims many of who are on the verge of extremism Let's pee them off
Quote from: 1965 on September 19, 2013, 10:52:51 AMQuote from: Smokey on September 19, 2013, 10:42:34 AMI take it then, you would roll over and let them keep invading your land - potentially risking your family, your space, your privacy?And the answer is yes, I will protect and defend my family on my land to the death if necessary so if conflict is the final outcome then conflict it is. No you misunderstand.Wouldn't a little tact and diplomacy be worth it if it avoids the conflict? I can't see how not allowing boat smugglers to enter our waters will start a conflict. Australia is its own sovereignty we can turn boats around and not permit them to enter it.
Quote from: Bentleigh-esque on September 19, 2013, 04:33:57 PM400 million Muslims many of who are on the verge of extremism Let's pee them offHitler would have loved you. Your not a distant relation of Neville Chamberlain per chance?
