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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #345 on: November 12, 2013, 04:22:10 AM »

More Bully boy tactics from the worst PM in my memory.

And the boats keep coming.

LMAO at Julie Bishop running for cover.

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Tony Abbott warns Jakarta on refusal to accept asylum-seeker boats
Date November 12, 2013
Mark Kenny
Chief political correspondent

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has fired a verbal warning to Jakarta that Australia is not happy over a standoff in which a boatload of asylum seekers landed on Australian territory, despite being rescued in the Indonesian search-and-rescue zone.

It came as two more boats were reported to have been intercepted by Australian border protection authorities, although the government has not confirmed that.

In what appeared to be a calculated measure to remind Indonesia of the new Australian government's resolve to stop the boats, Mr Abbott used a weekly radio appearance in Sydney to make plain Australia's view of who was at fault over the Indonesian refusal to accept the asylum seekers.

"These people were in a search-and-rescue situation in the Indonesian search-and-rescue zone,'' Mr Abbott told radio station 2GB.

''Now, the normal international law is that if you are rescued in a country's search-and-rescue zone that country has an obligation to take you.

''You can go to the nearest port and the nearest port is normally the port that is in the country whose search-and-rescue zone you've been picked up in," Mr Abbott said.

The unusually strong comments run counter to the warm tones and plans of mutual co-operation expressed between Mr Abbott and Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono just a month ago at APEC.

The tensions over boats come just days after Jakarta expressed strong objections to revelations of spying operations conducted by the Australian embassy in Jakarta.

Immigration and Border Protection Minister Scott Morrison also openly criticised Jakarta's change of heart after it had agreed to accept other vessels in similar circumstances. He described the refusal as ''very frustrating'' and a decision with "no real rhyme or reason to it necessarily".

After some confusion, fuelled by Mr Morrison's continued refusal to provide information, and a claim in the Jakarta Post that three boats had been refused, it is now clear that two boats have been rejected.

Asked about the facts of the situation and the status of the relationship with Jakarta, Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop repeatedly referred reporters to Mr Morrison's office. The opposition branded that as "absurd".

Labor MP Andrew Leigh told Fairfax Media on Monday that Indonesia should be treated with respect. ''They are the fourth largest population size in the world, a very important relationship for Australia being dealt tremendous blows by the to-ing and fro-ing, the back and forth that is this government's asylum-seeker policies," he said.

''It appears now that the reason that he [Scott Morrison] wants a general to stand next to him, is so he can shield behind that general and refuse to answer questions.''



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-warns-jakarta-on-refusal-to-accept-asylumseeker-boats-20131111-2xch7.html#ixzz2kMHeWJOK

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #346 on: November 18, 2013, 12:39:38 PM »
Couple of words in this one that you don't see often: "fealty" and "craven"

Translated they mean Tony is a useless prick.

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A craven Tony Abbott's refusal to discuss human rights in Sri Lanka cheapened the Commonwealth
 
November 18, 2013 - 9:52AM
Ben Doherty
 
Tony Abbott came to Sri Lanka to praise President Mahinda Rajapakse, not to bury him under the weight of human rights abuse allegations that completely dominated this Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting

"We are here to praise as much as judge," he told the forum's opening meeting, lauding the ending of Sri Lanka's civil war, and the development in the country since.

For his fealty, he was rewarded. Sri Lanka has vowed to further help Abbott with his number one domestic priority, "stopping the boats" of asylum seekers looking to come to Australia.

The countries' existing co-operation has been extended, with Australia giving Sri Lanka two patrol boats, so that asylum seekers might be intercepted before they leave Sri Lankan waters.

(The inconvenient truth that navy sailors have been arrested and charged with running the biggest people-smuggling ring in the country is being, publicly at least, played down).

Mr Abbott came to CHOGM, a multi-lateral meeting of 53 member nations, with an entirely domestic agenda. He needed Sri Lankan support to combat people smuggling, and so was unwilling to criticise his hosts.

While human rights concerns – forced abductions, torture, and extrajudicial killings by state forces, land seizures by the military, and oppression of political opponents – dominated every public CHOGM event, Abbott sidestepped these at every turn.

"We accept that sometimes in difficult circumstances, difficult things happen," he said of torture allegations, instead focusing on the progress that had been made, and on Australia's co-operation at sea.

But Abbott's refusal to even countenance Sri Lanka's ongoing human rights issues, in contradiction to the position of the UN and his own foreign affairs department, was craven and irresponsible.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/a-craven-tony-abbotts-refusal-to-discuss-human-rights-in-sri-lanka-cheapened-the-commonwealth-20131118-2xpmh.html#ixzz2kxNk98me


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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #347 on: November 18, 2013, 12:58:19 PM »
Stop the boats

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #348 on: November 19, 2013, 07:03:09 PM »
So they not buying fishing boats now...

Cause the phone tapped the presidential wife

Gw tony  :clapping

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #349 on: November 19, 2013, 08:39:03 PM »
So they not buying fishing boats now...

Cause the phone tapped the presidential wife

Gw tony  :clapping

Pretty sure the tapping was pre-Tony but don't let a little thing like that get in the road of some scorn.

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #350 on: November 19, 2013, 08:45:09 PM »
So they not buying fishing boats now...

Cause the phone tapped the presidential wife

Gw tony  :clapping

Pretty sure the tapping was pre-Tony but don't let a little thing like that get in the road of some scorn.

was reported it began with the Ruddster yet some want to think it just started with TA

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #351 on: November 19, 2013, 08:59:34 PM »
Can't believe we're the only government spying  :banghead

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #352 on: November 19, 2013, 09:10:23 PM »
Obama spying on Merkel too

So they not buying fishing boats now...

Cause the phone tapped the presidential wife

Gw tony  :clapping

Pretty sure the tapping was pre-Tony but don't let a little thing like that get in the road of some scorn.

was reported it began with the Ruddster yet some want to think it just started with TA

clearly rudd is also a tosser
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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #353 on: November 20, 2013, 07:00:45 AM »

And all because one-term Tony won't say I'm sorry.

What is wrong with these Liberal pricks?


Tony Abbott refuses to apologise for Indonesian spying program
 
November 20, 2013 - 6:16AM

Michael Bachelard, Mark Kenny, David Wroe
 
Jakarta has pointedly warned Canberra that time is running out for a direct explanation of claims Australia bugged the Indonesian President, adding that Tony Abbott's parliamentary explanation was not good enough.

Declaring the situation is ''not business as usual'', Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa said a step-up in the Indonesian response to Australia was being discussed at the highest levels.
 
''We'll continue to review the Indonesia-Australia relationship in general, not only regarding information exchange and intelligence. We'll continue to downgrade our relationship with them and it's up to them where the process ends," he said on Tuesday night.

This could involve changes to the exchange of information and co-operation on people smuggling or a blanket refusal to accept returned asylum seekers rescued at sea.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-refuses-to-apologise-for-indonesian-spying-program-20131119-2xsn4.html#ixzz2l7hyymne

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #354 on: November 20, 2013, 11:16:30 PM »
So they not buying fishing boats now...

Cause the phone tapped the presidential wife

Gw tony  :clapping

Pretty sure the tapping was pre-Tony but don't let a little thing like that get in the road of some scorn.

Lmao

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #355 on: November 20, 2013, 11:18:23 PM »

And all because one-term Tony won't say I'm sorry.

What is wrong with these Liberal pricks?


Nothing

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #356 on: November 20, 2013, 11:36:22 PM »
Rookie error by the PM.

The guy is a moron.
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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #357 on: November 20, 2013, 11:43:04 PM »
Indonesia is in a relationship with Australia - it's complicated

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #358 on: November 21, 2013, 01:42:17 AM »
Tony Abbott is an opposition hyena, not a government statesman. He does not have the diplomacy skills, the tact or the refinement required to deal with the Indonesians and neither does his foreign minister.
Admittedly, while this was one that came out of nowhere for a new PM, it is still embarrassing that his inability to arbitrate or moderate a dispute has been put on display so early in his tenure. It is a key skill of the job and he hasn't got it. His policy of stopping the boats is in tatters now. 
Australia has turned a blind eye to the massacres and human rights abuses of this so called democracy for some 40 years, I would have preferred the relationship was downgraded over a point of difference on human rights, rather than the bumblings of an incompetent politician.

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Re: Stopping the boats
« Reply #359 on: November 21, 2013, 01:53:22 AM »
Too much of a limpdick to bring it up with sir Lanka either

Abbott puts politics above war crimes | Lawyers Weekly
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14 hours ago - Australia's foremost legal human rights body has hit out at Tony Abbott for brushing aside alleged ... of failing to properly investigate allegations Sri Lankan forces killed up to 40,000 Tamil civilian

Hence I am thus referring to tony as limpdick mcgey
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