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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4695 on: April 05, 2019, 02:09:09 PM »
I always felt lynching our cream was poor form. Yes they need to be held accountable but when someone like Dusty is getting tagged by 3 players what are the other 2 free RFC players doing?

Leppitch is right. It's a team game. Yes we get a lot of plays and goals through Dusty bursting through the middle but some.of you are suggesting that if Dusty doesn't poll 60 Brownlow votes this year he is taking us for a ride

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4696 on: April 05, 2019, 07:57:05 PM »
its not about bagging Dusty for the heck of it....Dangerfield plays a similar role...still managed 7 tackles last night

1+ million a year and youre not prepared to lay 1 freaken tackle??? are you kidding or what?

 are you just cruising around like a rolls royce? you might be getting tagged or having a stinker but you can still do the 1% cant you?

Of course he's going to get scrutinised more than others...he gets paid twice as much. It goes with the territory

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4697 on: April 06, 2019, 07:13:30 AM »
Hey as an aside I never hear of Dustys girl friend in the media. Does he have a girl or is he the new Thorpedo?

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4698 on: April 06, 2019, 03:30:56 PM »
Hey as an aside I never hear of Dustys girl friend in the media. Does he have a girl or is he the new Thorpedo?
None of your business, shut this sort of discussion down.
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4699 on: April 06, 2019, 03:34:46 PM »
:lol
I work in Africa and they were taking the pee out of me for saving Africa.......
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4700 on: April 06, 2019, 03:55:40 PM »
Hey as an aside I never hear of Dustys girl friend in the media. Does he have a girl or is he the new Thorpedo?
None of your business, shut this sort of discussion down.
Very bad form tdy
Exactly. Who cares what he is doing in his own personal life?
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4701 on: April 06, 2019, 03:56:29 PM »
tdy isn't breaking any rules....
I work in Africa and they were taking the pee out of me for saving Africa.......
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4702 on: April 06, 2019, 04:04:33 PM »
tdy isn't breaking any rules....
True but it still doesn't matter what he does in his own time away from footy....
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Tackling Dusty: Have opponents discovered how to subdue Martin? (Age)
« Reply #4703 on: April 06, 2019, 04:07:22 PM »
Tackling Dusty: Have opponents discovered how to subdue Martin?

Daniel Cherny
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5 April 2019


Martin won the Brownlow Medal, the Norm Smith Medal and reached iconic status as a Richmond premiership hero.

He was still an All-Australian last year, and also polled 19 Brownlow votes, but his air of invincibility gradually wore off. Unquestionably he remained elite, but he couldn't scale 2017's heights.

Two rounds into 2019, critics are chipping away at his status. Martin had 30 disposals in the opening-round win over Carlton and picked up one coaches' association MVP vote, but was uncharacteristically brought down in a tackle by Blues youngster Zac Fisher.

The following Monday night, Nine's Footy Classified pondered whether opposition clubs had figured out how to stop Martin's trademark fend-off, showing footage of Fisher employing a pre-emptive slap to Martin, which host Craig Hutchinson suggested had been pioneered by West Coast's Elliot Yeo in a game last year.

Then in the second-round loss to Collingwood, Martin was restricted to 18 disposals by Magpies stopper Levi Greenwood, who had also helped curtail Martin in last year's preliminary final.

But Martin's offensive struggles were arguably less of a talking point than the fact he was offering very little defensively, having not laid a tackle in the first two rounds of 2019.

Richmond assistant coach Justin Leppitsch laughed during the week when asked if he was surprised that Martin hadn't applied a tackle this season, suggesting it had come as no great shock.

But Leppitsch tried to deflect the blowtorch onto other Tigers whose roles centre more on defence, given Richmond laid just 32 tackles overall against Collingwood.

"[Martin's] ball-winning ability and what he does around the contest can't be underestimated – it's such a big thing for us," Leppitsch said.

"There's other guys in our team that are there to tackle that haven't been doing it, so collectively as a group we need to lift. It's not just one particular person."

"Everyone gets looked at differently. Dustin's not there to go to full-back and spoil. Everyone has different parts of their game they've got to do.

"We are graded differently in a lot of ways. But he still has to join in when it's his turn, don't get me wrong."

Asked to assess Martin's start to the season, an assistant coach from a rival club commented: "Dusty is an interesting one. His role has changed slightly. He isn't a true midfielder, he is a forward who goes to stoppages.

"If you watch his work in general play, he [heads] forward of the ball. His work defensively is non-existent. I think he had five disposals inside defensive 50 last year! He hasn't had a possession in D50 this year."
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Champion Data stats back up that assertion. Along with his empty tackles column, Martin is also yet to kick a goal this year despite routinely starting at centre bounces (he is ranked second at the club for centre-bounce attendances, Cotchin is first) before heading forward.

An opposition perception about Martin's lack of tackling was intriguing.

"Zero tackles so far this year ... for someone who spends a lot of time at stoppage is baffling. To me it shows either [his] changed role and his coaches don't expect that of him or [that] he's weighting his game on the offensive things too much. I would be surprised if it's [the former]," the coach said.

"He's getting less of the ball because of his role change but I still think he tries to do too much with every possession instead of doing the basics."

How Martin responds to this period looms as one of the fascinating subplots of the season.

Martin's manager Ralph Carr is backing his client to succeed.

"Dustin is a champion of the AFL game and has a lot of pride in his game and treasures playing for the Richmond Football Club … I have never seen him fitter or more determined to play great football," Carr said.

"If you look at Dustin's nine years with Richmond he has maintained an honourable consistency."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tackling-dusty-have-opponents-discovered-how-to-subdue-martin-20190404-p51awb.html

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4704 on: April 06, 2019, 07:41:41 PM »
A catch 22 at the minute. Dusty is being well held in the midfield (not working hard and smart enough?) but moving him forward doesn't help as the ball doesn't get down there with any quality. That free off the ball he gave away due to being frustrated came at a key moment too. 
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4705 on: April 06, 2019, 07:47:53 PM »
Not enough guys protecting him to I reckon,but just not working hard enough keeping it basic to.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4706 on: April 07, 2019, 10:35:17 AM »
At this moment in time - Dusty is playing like one of the most overrated players in football.
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4707 on: April 10, 2019, 12:51:10 PM »
Give me more: Barrett calls out the players who need to lift

Damian Barrett
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Apr 10, 2019


DUSTIN MARTIN

Standout performance: No one in the modern era has put together a season of pure and raw dominance as Martin in 2017. His last five games that year saw him average 30 disposals and two goals.

Where's he at? Will forever be an all-time AFL great no matter what happens from here, but right now he's struggling. With his own expectations, and the stresses which come with them. With opposition taggers like Greenwood and de Boer. With an ever-so-marginal drop-off from the manic obsession and commitment of 2017 to not just be the best player in the game, but the best player by sizeable distance. His coach and manager haven't helped with public utterances about opposition scrutiny.

Why the Tigers need him at his best: This season is slipping away, quickly, and they don't just need Dusty at his best. Right now, they just need him full-stop. No Rance, no Riewoldt, no Cotchin is an ugly situation even before his suspension.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-10/give-me-more-barrett-calls-out-the-players-who-need-to-lift

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4708 on: April 10, 2019, 01:30:12 PM »
A catch 22 at the minute. Dusty is being well held in the midfield (not working hard and smart enough?) but moving him forward doesn't help as the ball doesn't get down there with any quality. That free off the ball he gave away due to being frustrated came at a key moment too.

The main problem with Martin right now is that the team is not playing well. Too many players out of form. When the team was in full flight Martin was able to concentrate on the offensive as his low defensive work was being covered by team mates, who were prepared to do this as Martin offensively was so good for the team.

He started well against GWS but the same problems existed and the attention from De Boer took his mind off the job.

Martin just needs to take a step back and put a bit more work in defensively and in a few weeks the situation will change again. Basing most of this on Hardwick saying he had changed our approach this year as 2018 start well and fell apart near the finals. Thinking here we will ramp training up over April May and be reaching full fitness in June and then hold that through to finals (Hopefully)

Maybe the week off is just what he needs and the coaches can refocus him.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #4709 on: April 10, 2019, 02:44:49 PM »
When your team mate is getting heavily tagged, you should give him some assistance, IMVHO, Dusty should be setting his taggers up for his team mates to give them a super hard shepherd at every opportunity.
You see other teams have anti tagger techniques, why not us?