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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6615 on: April 19, 2024, 06:25:16 PM »

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6616 on: April 19, 2024, 07:17:11 PM »
"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6618 on: April 20, 2024, 10:09:57 AM »
His 300th will be something special.

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« Reply #6619 on: April 20, 2024, 01:49:15 PM »
HE is something special
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6620 on: April 20, 2024, 02:18:47 PM »
Hopefully they can squeeze a "managed" game in there somewhere so his 300th can be at the MCG

And so everyone can whack Meehan for no reason  :rollin
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6621 on: April 20, 2024, 04:41:22 PM »
Fun fact: Luke Meehan's mother's maiden name was Powell........ :shh
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6622 on: April 20, 2024, 08:06:37 PM »
Fun fact: Luke Meehan's mother's maiden name was Powell........ :shh

Fun fact....

I'm in good mood today so despite ore clear baiting  >:( I'll refrain from going strike.....

I'll just watch the baseball instead
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6623 on: April 21, 2024, 02:09:18 AM »
IS DUSTY REALLY WORTH TRADE BOUNTY?

Rivals scouting for Dustin Martin’s availability would need him to return to his former glories to be convinced he is worth the significant price tag to get him out of Punt Rd.

Martin has played well in patches this year, despite missing two games with calf issues, but his lack of defensive running has been highlighted.

He has kicked three goals from four games and set Norwood alight with an exceptional first half against St Kilda during Gather Round.

Clubs believe Martin, who turns 33 in June, would consider a move as an unrestricted free agent. But the superstar Tiger, just seven matches short of his 300-game milestone, would also command a significant wage and would likely only move to a contender or up north to Gold Coast, alongside former coach Damien Hardwick.

https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1781515600420041036

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6624 on: April 21, 2024, 03:12:27 AM »
He's playing at a 500-600k level IMO.

Clubs shouldn't bother and neither should Dusty.

Get the 300 and retire a one club player at the end of the year.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6625 on: April 21, 2024, 12:27:21 PM »
Why Hardwick and the Suns should just leave Dustin Martin alone

Jake Niall
Chief football writer, The Age
April 21, 2024


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“I never said I want to be alone. I only said ‘I want to be left alone.’ There is all the difference.”
- Reclusive movie star Greta Garbo, 1955.

Dustin Martin’s desire to be left alone, in the manner of Greta Garbo, has been as defining a feature of his career as the fend-off, which is a well-worn, but fitting metaphor for Dusty’s aversion to the crowd.

Martin’s extreme shyness and dislike of the spotlight – bar his glowing presence on game day – is one of the reasons why there’s been a view in clubland that he could be prised out of Richmond.

Martin’s seven-year mega contract expires this year. Richmond have not put a contract on the table, in large part because Dusty hasn’t made any decisions about his future.

Martin has three immediate options: 1) Re-sign with the Tigers for 2025 and play on; 2) cross to another club, almost certainly in the northern states; 3) retire, after reaching 300 games and be remembered as a one-club great of the code.

Since 2022, if not earlier, Gold Coast have been mooted as the logical destination for Dusty if he decided he wanted out of town.

Note that there’s never been any hint that Dusty had any issue with the Richmond Football Club. Rather, it’s whether he’s had enough of living in the footy fishbowl in Melbourne.

The argument for Dusty exploring a move to the Suns has centred on the fact that they’re a getaway club, where AFL isn’t obsessively followed and even a high-vis superstar can find sanctuary, like Garbo.

The Suns also have significant ex-Richmond people at the helm, headed by former coach Damien Hardwick, with football bosses Wayne Campbell (performance) and Craig Cameron (list/recruitment) also knowing Martin well from their days at Tigerland.

That Martin has had contact with Gold Coast officials is hardly surprising, given the longstanding relationships.

But what is often lost in this discussion and speculation is whether, in fact, the Suns really need Dustin Martin.

They don’t.

For a number of reasons, the Suns should not pursue Dusty, should he decide he wants to leave Victoria. He’s not the right fit. To stick with the movie star motif, it would be like casting Arnold Schwarzenegger as Hamlet.

Martin would be turning 34 next year and while he would certainly improve the Suns’ forward line for a year – assuming he is relatively fit and motivated – it would represent an extremely short-term move for Hardwick and company.

Gold Coast have one of the best lists of under 24-year-olds in the competition. But their peak contention period is still at least two years away (probably longer, considering the demography of recent premiers).

Dusty is unlikely to come cheap, either. He’s been paid well over $1 million since 2018 and even if he came for, say, $700,000, that money would be better utilised in the crucial task of retaining Matt Rowell, Ben King, Noah Anderson and others.

Hardwick aside, Martin would be the biggest figure to arrive at Gold Coast since Gary Ablett. Unlike Ablett, Dusty would not be willing to front the media or sell the club.

His sheer presence, however, would bring additional media to the Suns, which the AFL wouldn’t mind.

The Suns, though, have just brought in four teenage locals via their academy – headed by the enormously talented talls Jed Walter and Ethan Read. Once those kids mature, they can be the shopfront – Gold Coast’s answer to Errol Gulden and Isaac Heeney – in a non-footy market that has struggled to support elite sporting clubs.

While Martin would engender excitement among young Suns teammates, and he is capable of mentoring, he does not represent the kind of on-field general and leader that four-time Hawthorn premiership great Luke Hodge was at the Brisbane Lions.

As it stands today, the Suns are unsure of whether to make a bid for Dusty, who has struggled with his body at times this year, missing games and some training sessions. Is he there in spirit? It’s a reasonable question.

There is no question that the death of his father Shane in 2022, who had been exiled from his son in New Zealand, was an enormous blow to the reticent champion.

He would suit the Swans or Giants more than Gold Coast, in terms of age and premiership profile and positional needs (he could take Heeney’s old forward role at Sydney), but one doubts that the Giants would have the cap space, and it is unclear whether the Swans would want such a short-term investment.

Martin’s shunning of the bright lights, paradoxically, has rendered him a mystery that merely heightened the public’s fascination with him – a conundrum that Greta Garbo endured. Almost every autograph seeker at Punt Rd wants Dusty’s scribble on their gear.

Richmond will offer him a decent deal, if he decides to play on with the club he helped transform and which is attempting a new frontier under Adem Yze and facing the expected exit of CEO Brendon Gale to the Tasmania Devils.

Like most football followers, this column would prefer that he bows out as a Tiger, rivalling Kevin Bartlett and Royce Hart for the mantle of Richmond’s greatest since World War Two.

Garbo’s wish sums up Martin’s relationship with the game. That he wants to be left alone does not mean that he is alone. Richmond have been another family.

Martin’s future is up to Martin. The Suns should just leave him alone.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/it-s-the-biggest-decision-in-footy-will-dustin-martin-join-gold-coast-20240420-p5flcm.html

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6626 on: May 01, 2024, 12:41:18 PM »
I believe that Richmond should sign Dusty up to another 3 year $1,000,000 deal with a clause in there that if a club comes knocking and Dusty is ok with that then we negotiate a deal that satisfies all parties.

e.g. Gold coast is interested and is willing to offer Dusty 1.2 million a year for 3 years and will offer their first round this year and a quality player if we pay $300,000 thousand a year on his contract for 3 years.

GWS is willing to give us Callahan  in exchange for Dusty for a 3 year 1.2 million deal and we pay $400,000 a year for 2 years.

The team wanting Dusty gets a bit of salary cap relief as not many teams at the pointy end of the ladder can afford 1.2 Million.

And for an outrageous deal GWS offers Callahan and their first and 2nd rounder for Dusty and we pay $600,000 a year for 2 years and $300,00 for the 3rd year.

Thoughts?

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6627 on: May 01, 2024, 01:14:22 PM »
I think offering him $1mil/year for 3 years is silly.

Looks like this year will be his last to me, but we decide that at the end of the year.

If he wants to continue he needs to take a pay cut for the clubs future benefit.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6628 on: May 01, 2024, 01:52:51 PM »
Rumours are increasingly circulating around a retirement on game 300….
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #6629 on: May 01, 2024, 03:04:07 PM »
Rumours are increasingly circulating around a retirement on game 300….

Wouldnt surprise me