Nothing in that article to disagree with.
agree smokey its almost exactly what ive been saying.
only thing i ve said different is we should have had more talls on the list and stopped hoping with the likes of vickery and griffiths. the planning or list management should have been with the view these players are likely to fail and as such if they did we werent going to start from scratch but had others already in our system. i still think this needs to happen.
I respectfully disagree with this claw. You have said he is crap and is a dud many many times. I could go and dig them up if required but your not going to be able to do a Rance on this guy.
Ben showed plenty last year which you continuely failed to see and in fact claimed the opposite. Cant hide behind the "list management" arguements, this is not about that. The question is "Can Ben fill our CHF role?" Many of us that have watched him closely have said yes, what do you say claw?
what do you disagree with. in no way am i pumping up griffiths tyres and i stand by my statements that hes underperformed and his best games have hardly reached the standard.
i was all for trading one of vickery or griffiths last yr preferably vickery but they went and and re signed the big girls blouse.
so what does that article say about griffiths that i have.
he certainly hasnt exploded like others. he has oscillated between defense ruck fwd, thats something ive disagreed with. im adamant we play him as a 2nd ruck/fwd.
he has both teased and titillated. or shown glimpses which is all and its not been enough and i have said so. he does have the [potential to do better but he hasnt hes been mostly below par.
the comp is littered with the jones whites vickery etc and he rightly is lumped in with em none have established themselves some have given more than griffiths which is a worry.
griffiths sits in that group and while hes improved his barely at afl standard and has no margin for error.
when he says vickery has been supported but there comes a time when you ask how long do you persevere ive asked that question constantly about both hence icontinue to plead for different types and more talls to be in our system
the bloke says griffiths curve has been ever so slowly on the rise i agree with it and have said as much, trouble is for me he risen to barely up to afl standard and still regularly below
yes we are waiting to see if he will arrive or if hes going to slip back to horrid. he has a long way to go to even be considered a half decent player a sml drop off and hes back to dud status.
mate i dont see that article as a positive for griffiths its negative and its correct.
oh to finish ive constantly said i stand by my comments on rance. to me its only been the last 2 yrs that hes become elite. along the way he had many weaknesses and was at times down right ordinary.
if griffiths becomes a very good player i will go with it but so far the journey for ben has been very very ordinary.
