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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #945 on: June 18, 2013, 12:31:01 PM »
There's no reason why Griff shouldn't stand out at VFL level. As a forward he should be flogging his opponent in one on ones and as a defender you'd hope he'd beat his man and rack up plenty of footy at the same time. That's what the good KPPs do at the lower level. Even the Richmond fella who does the player reports can't even write something positive about Griffo. He is a full time footballer, it's his profession. He is playing against part time drunks and hacks

Is he sooking?

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #946 on: June 18, 2013, 12:34:53 PM »
There's no reason why Griff shouldn't stand out at VFL level.

It is common for some players to go better at AFL than VFL level believe it or not.

Strange as it sounds sometimes playing with highly talented team mates instead of plodders benefits their game. There must be other reasons too I am not aware of.

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as a defender you'd hope he'd beat his man and rack up plenty of footy at the same time.

I thought Morris was our best handful of players vs. Adealide. And yet only finshed with six touches.

Tradionality some full backs have played well without getting much of the pill themselves. Shane Walkin for example. However I believe Griffiths is being played out of his natural position.


From radio account he was not sooking but punching collingwood people  :cheers

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #947 on: June 18, 2013, 12:36:35 PM »
There's no reason why Griff shouldn't stand out at VFL level. As a forward he should be flogging his opponent in one on ones and as a defender you'd hope he'd beat his man and rack up plenty of footy at the same time. That's what the good KPPs do at the lower level. Even the Richmond fella who does the player reports can't even write something positive about Griffo. He is a full time footballer, it's his profession. He is playing against part time drunks and hacks

Is he sooking?
:clapping If we get offered anything useful based on his talent and rating as a junior I hope we've learnt from the Schulz debacle. Knock back pick 28 and a year later get 2 packets of stale twisties.  :banghead :banghead

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #948 on: June 18, 2013, 12:37:52 PM »
And now the J-German is playing wel... hmm...

Only at 25 did   Jay Schulz start to play well...

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #949 on: June 18, 2013, 12:39:27 PM »
There's no reason why Griff shouldn't stand out at VFL level.

It is common for some players to go better at AFL than VFL level believe it or not.

Strange as it sounds sometimes playing with highly talented team mates instead of plodders benefits their game.


Agree. Although playing with better players at AFL level hasn't helped Griff get more than a couple of kicks.


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as a defender you'd hope he'd beat his man and rack up plenty of footy at the same time.
I thought Morris was our best handful of players vs. Adealide. And yet only finshed with six touches.

Tradionality some full backs have played well without getting much of the pill themselves. Shane Walkin for example. However I believe Griffiths is being played out of his natural position.


From radio account he was not sooking but punching collingwood people  :cheers

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No doubt. But Griff is mobile and a beautiful, long kick of the footy. At VFL level you'd want him to provide plenty of rebound as well as stopping his man. At AFL level I couldn't care less if he only had 3 touches as long as he kept a good player fairly quiet.

There's no reason why Griff shouldn't stand out at VFL level. As a forward he should be flogging his opponent in one on ones and as a defender you'd hope he'd beat his man and rack up plenty of footy at the same time. That's what the good KPPs do at the lower level. Even the Richmond fella who does the player reports can't even write something positive about Griffo. He is a full time footballer, it's his profession. He is playing against part time drunks and hacks

Is he sooking?
:clapping If we get offered anything useful based on his talent and rating as a junior I hope we've learnt from the Schulz debacle. Knock back pick 28 and a year later get 2 packets of stale twisties.  :banghead :banghead

A lot of people thought those twisties were tasty for one season

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #950 on: June 18, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »
And now the J-German is playing wel... hmm...

Only at 25 did   Jay Schulz start to play well...

The German had played good footy for Richmond before and also dominated at the lower level. poo coaching and development (and perhaps a lack of motivation towards the end) is what finished his RFC chapter.

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #951 on: June 18, 2013, 12:47:10 PM »
They were stuffing delicious. Nason's golden locks flowing down the wing until we upgraded him with Grigg, who we probably now need to look at upgrading on.

And that pass by Farmer against Sydney at the MCG was amazing.

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #952 on: June 18, 2013, 12:50:18 PM »
He is playing against part time drunks and hacks

Is he sooking?

You're a full time drunk and you're not that bad

He's sooking, and has offers on the table

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #953 on: June 18, 2013, 12:55:02 PM »
He is playing against part time drunks and hacks

Is he sooking?

You're a full time drunk and you're not that bad

He's sooking, and has offers on the table

Not bad? I was brilliant.

Don't reveal any info from Club80 please. Loose lips sink ships

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #954 on: June 18, 2013, 06:10:38 PM »
Quality person with wonderful skills, 200cm and runs like a sprinter
Give him a year and he will be staring for the seniors
Had something off the field that upset him this year which is his business
All big blokes take a bit longer than mids

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #955 on: June 18, 2013, 06:37:35 PM »
And now the J-German is playing wel... hmm...

Only at 25 did   Jay Schulz start to play well...

The German had played good footy for Richmond before and also dominated at the lower level. poo coaching and development (and perhaps a lack of motivation towards the end) is what finished his RFC chapter.
Are you joking Coach?

He had one good game against the bears in Brisbane and we were all talking about it for 3 years.
I think your right about development though as Wallet was clearly far too technical for the someone like Shultz that, let's face it, isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
With all the info he was receiving from the tanned one the poor kid was running in circles with absolutely no idea what he was supposed to do. 
Like the game against Brisbane, Port obviously kept it pretty simple for him with very slow speaking and clear, easy words.....
Lead for ball, mark the ball, kick the goal.
Obviously that's all the info the boy needed.  ;D
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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #956 on: June 18, 2013, 06:40:09 PM »
Griffins not getting a go.

Is that poon development coaching also?

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #957 on: June 18, 2013, 09:41:16 PM »
Griffins not getting a go.

Is that poon development coaching also?

He can get a go if he can get more than 5 touches at the burgers

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #958 on: June 19, 2013, 01:27:07 AM »
Quality person with wonderful skills, 200cm and runs like a sprinter
Give him a year and he will be staring for the seniors
Had something off the field that upset him this year which is his business
All big blokes take a bit longer than mids

Do we pick one of those reasons or are they all applicable?

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Re: Ben Griffiths [merged]
« Reply #959 on: June 19, 2013, 01:28:29 AM »
The German had played good footy for Richmond before and also dominated at the lower level. poo coaching and development (and perhaps a lack of motivation towards the end) is what finished his RFC chapter.

Agree. Well said.
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