Ben Griffiths [merged]

[Jackstar is back!!!]

Hopefully we have seen the last of Griffiths
Promised a lot .delivered donuts

[Judge Roughneck]

Yeah pee him off and get around orren and hampson

[Dicko]

I can't help thinking that if they kicked the ball to him he would have had a better chance. I've watched him play all his games since he thrashed a nephew of mine in schoolboy football years ago, a several weeks ago I saw Cothchin kick the ball to him - In 5 years this is the first time I've seen Cotchin kick the ball to him. Martin, Newman and the "better" players don't look for him at all. A classic example was 2 weeks ago Griff was on his own in the square calling for the ball and they kicked it to Jack who had 2 players on him. When Griff has been in the F50, they don't look for him - they kick the ball over his head despite him leading and calling for the ball that's why he hasn't done well there - have a look at the replays.
In a way I hope he does move on at the end of the year to a new club and to where he's got a better chance of success, but I'd rather him stay and get some respect

[Fluffy Tiger]

Yeah pee him off and get around orren and hampson

Yeah, big upside and our future there, nice one Judge.  I don't understand the hate for this Griffiths. For the first 4 or 5 weeks of this season the big uspside in the losses we had was the form of Griffiths and Ashbury. He was poor the last two weeks but he was far from the worst as far as having a go. There is no future in these two other bigs (orren and hampson), Keep Griff in please.

[eliminator]

Agree with keeping but needs to work harder. Agree players need to kick it to him. He is a good mark and is usually a good kick Usual Richmond mentality kick it to a player who has at least two opponents on him rather than to the unmarked team mate.

[MintOnLamb]

Yeah pee him off and get around orren and hampson

Yeah, big upside and our future there, nice one Judge.  I don't understand the hate for this Griffiths. For the first 4 or 5 weeks of this season the big uspside in the losses we had was the form of Griffiths and Ashbury. He was poor the last two weeks but he was far from the worst as far as having a go. There is no future in these two other bigs (orren and hampson), Keep Griff in please.

AGREE 100 %, delivery to him is pitiful. A bit like Jay Shulz Richo scenario. Other clubs would be salivating on picking him up and converting him into a top player. We are just too dumb and have a woeful development and management structure.

[Chuck17]

Yeah pee him off and get around orren and hampson

Yeah, big upside and our future there, nice one Judge.  I don't understand the hate for this Griffiths. For the first 4 or 5 weeks of this season the big uspside in the losses we had was the form of Griffiths and Ashbury. He was poor the last two weeks but he was far from the worst as far as having a go. There is no future in these two other bigs (orren and hampson), Keep Griff in please.

AGREE 100 %, delivery to him is pitiful. A bit like Jay Shulz Richo scenario. Other clubs would be salivating on picking him up and converting him into a top player. We are just too dumb and have a woeful development and management structure.

Second rounder?

[Diocletian]

I'd trade Vickery before Griffiths, but if we received a good enough offer.....

[tigs2011]

I'd trade Vickery before Griffiths, but if we received a good enough offer.....

What would you want for each of them?

[Diocletian]

I'd trade Vickery before Griffiths, but if we received a good enough offer.....

What would you want for each of them?

3rd rounder would be fair in an uncompromised draft, if we did really well maybe even a low second (I'd honestly even take a 4th rounder for Vickery at this point) or if they went to good club with quality depth, a good young player from that club who's not getting a game. 

If we trade them to say the Bulldogs or Carlton, we won't get much because, though desperate for talls they won't give up high picks, particularly in a draft that's supposed to be rich in tall talent, and don't have quality players or depth, if for argument's sake someone like Hawthorn or Collingwood came knocking however.... the new clubs also have talent they can afford to shed, though I doubt GWS are that desperate for talls ...unless they want to use them as rucks (Mumford isn't getting any younger).

This is where the list managers earn their keep. Though I'd be more confident if we have new list managers come trade week.

[camboon]

LOL - you all said the same about Rance and Jack not long ago. Most knowledgable people know he has the goods to be a good player but needs to keep developing

[Fluffy Tiger]

LOL - you all said the same about Rance and Jack not long ago. Most knowledgable people know he has the goods to be a good player but needs to keep developing

+1

[Chuck17]

LOL - you all said the same about Rance and Jack not long ago. Most knowledgable people know he has the goods to be a good player but needs to keep developing

Have you got special mail on that

[TigerMonk]

How did Ben go yesterday in the Curtain Raiser

[the claw]

vickery wont go anywhere hes contracted until 2016 ??. griffiths is out of contract probably hasnt done enoughh to be retained.

happy to give him another yr as long as we dont say to ourselves, geez we have griffiths elton vickery and riewoldt mcbean we have have of tall fwds.  we need to look at it not in pure numbers but in what each player is likely to become and what the chances are of them making it.
when looked at this way the list is absolutely screaming out for for a big strong marking kpf and a quick  agile well rounded third tall.

keep all the tall fwds if need be in hope but ffs add to them in anticipation of most of em going by the wayside.