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Offline one-eyed

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How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« on: December 15, 2009, 01:30:06 PM »
14 new faces plus Polak as a rookie now .......

Trade

Mitch Farmer            (Vic, 20, 180cm, 71kg) ....... small defender

National draft

3. Dustin Martin         (Vic, 18, 186cm, 88kg) ....... inside/outside midfielder
19. Ben Griffiths         (Vic, 18, 199cm, 98kg) ....... key forward
35. David Astbury        (Vic, 18, 195cm, 81kg) ...... key defender/forward
44. Matt Dea               (Vic, 18, 186cm, 83kg) ....... outside midfielder
51. Troy Taylor             (NT, 18, 189cm, 77kg) ....... forward
67. Jeromey Webberley (Tas, 21, 181cm, 78 kg) ....... midfielder/flanker
71. Ben Nason             (SA, 20, 179cm, 73 kg) ....... small forward

Preseason draft

2. Dylan Grimes           (Vic, 18, 193cm, 81kg) ...... tall defender

Rookie draft

7. Robbie Hicks           (Vic, 18, 176cm, 67kg) ...... small forward
23. Pat Contin            (SA, 18, 181cm, 81kg) ...... inside midfielder
38. Relton Roberts       (NT, 23, 176cm, 78kg) ...... small midfielder/forward
51. Nick Westhoff        (SA, 18, 197cm, 78kg) ...... key forward
62. Graham Polak       (Rich, 25, 194cm, 94kg) ...... tall forward
70. Jamie O'Reilly         (Ire, 21, 183cm, 78kg) ...... outside midfielder/rebounding defender
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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 01:45:34 PM »
Given a turnover of about one third of the list, you'd have to be reasonably happy
Good mix of talls, mediums and smalls, clearly focussed on kicking skills
Hard to judge until we see many of them in action next season

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 02:08:38 PM »
happy bring on 2010  :gotigers
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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 02:33:50 PM »
I'm happy overall especially since we kept our low draft picks, stuck to our youth policy, didnt draft any overage recycled's and gained players with quality disposal skills. We could have gone a bit taller but overall a pretty good mix.

7.5/10

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 03:04:21 PM »
Hoping this year's draft adds the last layer to the cake so we can now start to just add the icing. All depends on how these young fellows develop and our other young players drafted after 2004 but we really don't want to have to delve deeply into the next three drafts given how compromised they will be.

I think we would find it very difficult to delist another 10+ players next year unless we are not willing to wait more than a couple of years for players to come on.

The harder it is to delist, the better our list is becoming. Hopefully we are blessed with that problem at years end.  :pray

Overall very pleased with the 2009 draft

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 04:00:58 PM »
Hoping this year's draft adds the last layer to the cake so we can now start to just add the icing. All depends on how these young fellows develop and our other young players drafted after 2004 but we really don't want to have to delve deeply into the next three drafts given how compromised they will be.

At least it is starting to look like a young list.

31: Cousins (253), Simmonds (190)
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28: Tuck (110)
27: Newman (154)
26: McMahon (148 ), King (41), Moore (65)
25: Polak# (108 )
24: Foley (84), Roberts# (-)


Very few players now in the 24+ yoa age range.

Shame apart from Cousins & Foley most of them are not very good. Fingers crossed Tuck, Simmonds, Newman, Moore can have decent years to give the kids some help.

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 07:12:58 PM »
good.

we got rid of blokes who werent up to it or not making a contribution. they have been replaced with youngsters and some of these will make it.

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 07:33:43 PM »
Very happy to have a turnover of 14 players and virtually all kids. About time. Too early to tell how well we've done. If we can get 6 decent to top quality AFL players out of the 14 then I think we'll be able to say we've done well. We'll have to wait 2-3 years at least to see if we have recruited well and how much compromised this draft was with 17 year olds excluded. The only major knock I have is we didn't recruit another ruckman knowing Simmo has one more year left. I would've had a ruckman instead of picking up 3 more smalls under 180cm.


Shame apart from Cousins & Foley most of them are not very good. Fingers crossed Tuck, Simmonds, Newman, Moore can have decent years to give the kids some help.
A shame in the short-term but that's why we are where we are. A mid-age bracket that was/is too thin and with hardly any decent let alone quality footballers.
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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 07:37:16 PM »
NFI - But we turned over and went with youth 'start from scratch' which is what we needed to do  :thumbsup

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 09:23:27 PM »
Cant wait till round 1 next year!!! Im very happy with the whole draft. It looks like they've done there homework this year.
Bring on 2010  :cheers

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 09:35:13 PM »

Ask me again in five years time.

and having said that let's pass judgement on the 2004 draft...

Now who did we draft?

Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Pattison, Meyer, Polo, McGuane, Limback (who??), and Graham.

Hmmm????

Maybe give me another year or two.

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 11:29:26 PM »
Well, at least the rest of the football world agreed with our delistings - only Patto was picked up (and JON sort of) and he was the one player I would have kept but can understand why ,as he's never going to be a super star but is a great backup  as he will prove at the saints.

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2009, 12:10:54 AM »
In My Opinion ...

i would of told Richardson that he can have untill April/May to get himself right!

i would of Delisted Graham Polak!

i would of told St Kilda that we will take your 8th Round Draft Pick for Jordan McMahon!

i would of Rookied Mark Coughlan!

kept Adam Pattison!

other Delisting - 200% agree!

elevations - Tick!

Nation Draft Picks ...

well, we really do not know???

Martin is a Tick, and Griffiths (IMO) is a Tick.

PSD/Rookie Picks ...

like NDP ... don't really know.

give these Young Cubs a chance.

i believe to many Small(s) players!

6.5/10

Good Luck Dimma!

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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2009, 08:51:21 AM »
In My Opinion ...

i would of told Richardson that he can have untill April/May to get himself right!

i would of Delisted Graham Polak!

i would of told St Kilda that we will take your 8th Round Draft Pick for Jordan McMahon!

i would of Rookied Mark Coughlan!

kept Adam Pattison!



on the above IMHO

there was no way we could have let Richo have until March/april to get right. It would have taken a place on the list and IIRC you cannot promote a rookie for a retired player - so whould have that wasted a list spot. Hence, why Richo did the right thing by the club and retired before the draft

Polly deserve a chance because we have a dirth of senior bodies KPP. the improvement he showed from the beginning of 2009 (running around in the coburg ressies) through to the end of 2009 (back in AFL) for me warranted another chance. The mature age rookie position is spot on

End of the day no-one wanted Jordie - so he is a tiger for at least one more year - no point wishing

the other week (actually it was the day richo retired) I watched a DVD of rich -v- Port at docklands. It was Richo's 200th game. Coughlan (and this is before his knee recos and after his OP) looked slow and his kicking to position was very poor. In 2009 he looked slower and his delivery worse - so NO he didn't deserve to be rookied and I think the fact that not one other team in the comp took a punt on him as mature age rookie about sums it up really

Patto: I really like the kid and if he'd stayed that would have been fine but they chose to de-list him. It was interesting Dimma said at the THC function a few weeks ago that with Patto it was a case of do we keep him and give him 12-16 games in 2010 or do we invest those games in young Andy BrownE. He siad they decided that long term BrownE was the better option. When I heard that I knew the Club had made the right decision
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Re: How did we rate our 2009 drafting overall?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2009, 09:16:38 AM »
In My Opinion ...


i would of Delisted Graham Polak!



Torch, This comment might come back to bite you  ;D, According to CC on SEN yesterday, Polly is training the house down and taking massive steps towards full fitness. The coaching staff have been super impressed with his progress.