List analyst & manager, Blair Hartley [merged]

[Diocletian]

1995 - So good we don't even need a coach.

2001 - Cherry ripe, no draft required.

2008 - Best 9th ever, locked n' loaded.

2015 - Just add cream and a bodyguard for the captain


"The Richmond Way" is to massively overrate the list.

[Stalin]

And to do half ass rebuilds and top up

All with the flux marketing of stability   

[WilliamPowell]

"The Richmond Way" is to massively overrate the list.

Hard to disagree

Actually I agree   

Hence why I blame Hartley for helluva lot. He rates our list, he rates those bought in

Enough said

[big tone]

"The Richmond Way" is to massively overrate the list.

Hard to disagree

Actually I agree   

Hence why I blame Hartley for helluva lot. He rates our list, he rates those bought in

Enough said

Here we go again......

Without wanting to say too much,  I know for a fact BH didn't have anything to do with a recent 2 year contract extension. So that would tell me that BH doesn't always get the final say. 

[WilliamPowell]

Without wanting to say too much,  I know for a fact BH didn't have anything to do with a recent 2 year contract extension. So that would tell me that BH doesn't always get the final say. 

Not disputing what you know

Never said BH did all contracts

Have said many times Richardson does the big ones

I know of a fair few he's done. Not going to go into any details, respect people too much to do that

However, my biggest beef with him has always been and continues to be he recommends who we should trade for, which FAs to go after, who we should recontract and he's done a very poor job

In the last 3 years he's recommended Hampson, Hunt, Townsend, Moore A, to name 4. On the contract side he's rated Grigg, Houli, Ellis B, to name 3 for contract extensions.

He's done  a stellar job the last 3 years.

[Stalin]

 

[big tone]

Without wanting to say too much,  I know for a fact BH didn't have anything to do with a recent 2 year contract extension. So that would tell me that BH doesn't always get the final say. 

Not disputing what you know

Never said BH did all contracts

Have said many times Richardson does the big ones

I know of a fair few he's done. Not going to go into any details, respect people too much to do that

However, my biggest beef with him has always been and continues to be he recommends who we should trade for, which FAs to go after, who we should recontract and he's done a very poor job

In the last 3 years he's recommended Hampson, Hunt, Townsend, Moore A, to name 4. On the contract side he's rated Grigg, Houli, Ellis B, to name 3 for contract extensions.

He's done  a stellar job the last 3 years.

All I know is BH didn't rate a player and they got a contract extension.
Like I have said before, I'm sure there is a panel of people that actually decide on every player that comes to our club. To blame him solely and to think that his decision is the only one everyone listens to is absurd.
These "moneyball" players that we have had come to the club are to fill holes in our list at the time. To think they are going to be the players to get us our next GF is ridiculous.  Most are players that cannot get a regular game for their original club, but maybe can play a roll for ours. Most cost us nothing other than a poo draft pick that would be wasted anyway.
You use the draft to get your star players and most of your core group and I think most would agree we have failed in doing that since DH took over.
FJ has simply got to go.

[WilliamPowell]

Giving someone like Hampson 3 years was simply a stupid deal. Grigg &Houli served specific purposes when we first got them but that was 7 years ago. They aren't taking us to a flag so why the contract extensions? Rather keeping why hasn't Blair looked to upgrade

But having said ....

BT, think we will agree on one thing and that is a number of people need to go 

[Stalin]

Preaching to the converted

[big tone]

Giving someone like Hampson 3 years was simply a stupid deal. Grigg &Houli served specific purposes when we first got them but that was 7 years ago. They aren't taking us to a flag so why the contract extensions? Rather keeping why hasn't Blair looked to upgrade

But having said ....

BT, think we will agree on one thing and that is a number of people need to go 

I think you missed my point.
He isn't the only person who decides on who goes and who stays. Not even close.
Playing Grigg and Houli week in week out isn't his fault either.
If FJ had of done his job those decision would have been pretty easy for Dimma to make but because he didn't we are still seeing Grigg and Houli 7 years on like you said. Plus other duds like BEllis, Conca, Griffiths,.......

Anyway get rid of the whole bloody lot of them for all I care, they all seem negligent IMO. 

[mightytiges]

Ah, Blair "I'm the list manager/analyst but we don't need a quality ruckman for 3 years" Hartley  .

Then there's his system of rating every player in the AFL and TAC Cup out of 1000 and comparing this number to the value of draft picks to determine off-season trades. Hasn't that worked a treat.   

[Jackstar 1960]

Knew Blair when he was editing videos for the Bombers back 10 -15 years ago
How he got this far in football is beyond belief

[big tone]

Ah, Blair "I'm the list manager/analyst but we don't need a quality ruckman for 3 years" Hartley  .

Then there's his system of rating every player in the AFL and TAC Cup out of 1000 and comparing this number to the value of draft picks to determine off-season trades. Hasn't that worked a treat.

So he is rating the TAC kids too. Must be the busiest guy on the planet.
I know it must be hard for some to comprehend but trading for ruckman isn't the only way to get a "quality" ruckman to our club. We have something like 7 ruckman on our list, two in which we have traded for of which one is Ivan and the other is a dud. That leaves 5 guys we have left up to FJ to draft. Not to mention all the others that have also been delsited. You do the math mightytiges.
Hasent that worked a treat.

I notice you, Jack or WP haven't commented on my previous post about BH not wanting to give a contract to one of our players but was obviously overruled. It may be that he isn't the only guy making decisions on our list. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Thinking 1 guy is making all the decisions on our list even for a badly run business like the RFC is crazy. Might be time to re-think that.

[Lozza]

To be honest I think we have lost the forest for the trees. Too much reliance on statistics rather than having the ability to see a player and know instinctively that he is going to be a star or at least a solid AFL player.

I along with a lot of other supporters see the draftees each year and look at the same highlights on You Tube and come up with completely different views to BH. This can't be coincidence, I think he reads too much into stats, almost like trying to find a formula that makes you a millionnaire on the stock market.

Sometimes I think a good recruiter goes on gut instinct and without blowing my own trumpet there are a number of players the club has passed over in recent times that I personally would have recruited and have turned out to be good selections for their respective club. Sure you are going to have the odd hit and miss but we simply have too many misses and to me that means we need an urgent revamp in the recruiting department.

[big tone]

To be honest I think we have lost the forest for the trees. Too much reliance on statistics rather than having the ability to see a player and know instinctively that he is going to be a star or at least a solid AFL player.

I along with a lot of other supporters see the draftees each year and look at the same highlights on You Tube and come up with completely different views to BH. This can't be coincidence, I think he reads too much into stats, almost like trying to find a formula that makes you a millionnaire on the stock market.

Sometimes I think a good recruiter goes on gut instinct and without blowing my own trumpet there are a number of players the club has passed over in recent times that I personally would have recruited and have turned out to be good selections for their respective club. Sure you are going to have the odd hit and miss but we simply have too many misses and to me that means we need an urgent revamp in the recruiting department.

What has BH got to do with recruiting the kids!! It's FJ!!