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Offline Penelope

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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2010, 04:43:45 PM »
meant to put this link in first, as an introduction
http://www.gaps.me/preview/
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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2010, 04:49:17 PM »
Diseases such depression or compulsive dissorder people have from birth
How so?
I have it, but I've only had it on and off for the last 20 years.  I wasn't born with it.


Most Richmond supporters do have it.... ;), Seriously, I hope you are coping ok with it.
 
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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2010, 04:50:51 PM »
LOL Tabcorp giving something back to the community
.Gambling has ruined many peoples lives in our community

Was my immediate thought too.

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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2010, 05:09:30 PM »
as FNM has already stated, no-one actually chooses to go down the path of self destruction.

And they're not born with it.
Without going into it, my problems started from a traumatic event
But you don't even realise it until you self-destruct
Even the depression is not apparent until you have a breakdown and you really need help
I didn't choose to self-destruct - it chose me
But you realise after you do go through all that, and you talk about it, you're far from alone.
There are so many people in society with similar problems
So many of my friends who I've confided in have had exactly the same problems
You can look at people in Haiti and count your blessings we have what we have, but there's a lot of people doing in tough at the moment, gamblers, addicts of one kind or another. Sure they chose to do these things, but they didn't choose to destroy their lives. If it wasn't such a money earner for governments, like the alcohol industry, you wouuld be damn sure both those industries would be abolished if governments were prepared to get serious

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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2010, 05:24:05 PM »
as FNM has already stated, no-one actually chooses to go down the path of self destruction.

And they're not born with it.
Without going into it, my problems started from a traumatic event
But you don't even realise it until you self-destruct
Even the depression is not apparent until you have a breakdown and you really need help
I didn't choose to self-destruct - it chose me
But you realise after you do go through all that, and you talk about it, you're far from alone.
There are so many people in society with similar problems
So many of my friends who I've confided in have had exactly the same problems
You can look at people in Haiti and count your blessings we have what we have, but there's a lot of people doing in tough at the moment, gamblers, addicts of one kind or another. Sure they chose to do these things, but they didn't choose to destroy their lives. If it wasn't such a money earner for governments, like the alcohol industry, you wouuld be damn sure both those industries would be abolished if governments were prepared to get serious

Totally agree, especially with the governments stance on things.

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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2010, 05:42:42 PM »
Well, I have to say, I doff my cap to Jackstar on calling a spade a spade on this one.  YOu can't polish a turd.
Gambling is a big source of misery for the desperate trying to find a way out, or a trap for those thinking they can make a quid out of it.  Not everyone has iron willpower and epic wisdom we all profess to have here, there are a lots of folks with miserable situations that are made worse through gambling, and, its not just their lives we are talking about, were talking about their kids, partners and so forth.  I can quote stuff that would make your hair stand on end and im sure others have anecdotes too.  So im not a big fan, its like taking the proceeds of other misery merchants like drug dealers in my book, except this is state sanctioned.  Just my opinion not judging anyone else on their opinion.

I'm not going to disagree with your opinion on gambling Owl but I think you missed Jack's point - he wasn't trying to blame or attack gambling, rather accusing the corporate bookmakers of creating dishonesty and bleeding sport of much money.  What you say about gambling is relevant for any kind of addiction or compulsion and that is really what the rest of us have been debating.  And you might find that the iron willpower and epic wisdom of some of us that you refer to are actually personal lessons learned in life the hard way - in many cases in the hardest possible way.
sorry I should of quoted his first post on the matter
"LOL Tabcorp giving something back to the community
.Gambling has ruined many peoples lives in our community"
I thought my response was relevant....I could be mistaken have I missed a point somewhere?
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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2010, 06:29:27 PM »
Well, I have to say, I doff my cap to Jackstar on calling a spade a spade on this one.  YOu can't polish a turd.
Gambling is a big source of misery for the desperate trying to find a way out, or a trap for those thinking they can make a quid out of it.  Not everyone has iron willpower and epic wisdom we all profess to have here, there are a lots of folks with miserable situations that are made worse through gambling, and, its not just their lives we are talking about, were talking about their kids, partners and so forth.  I can quote stuff that would make your hair stand on end and im sure others have anecdotes too.  So im not a big fan, its like taking the proceeds of other misery merchants like drug dealers in my book, except this is state sanctioned.  Just my opinion not judging anyone else on their opinion.

I'm not going to disagree with your opinion on gambling Owl but I think you missed Jack's point - he wasn't trying to blame or attack gambling, rather accusing the corporate bookmakers of creating dishonesty and bleeding sport of much money.  What you say about gambling is relevant for any kind of addiction or compulsion and that is really what the rest of us have been debating.  And you might find that the iron willpower and epic wisdom of some of us that you refer to are actually personal lessons learned in life the hard way - in many cases in the hardest possible way.
sorry I should of quoted his first post on the matter
"LOL Tabcorp giving something back to the community
.Gambling has ruined many peoples lives in our community"
I thought my response was relevant....I could be mistaken have I missed a point somewhere?

Yes, it is relevant and makes more sense by including Jack's first post but if you follow his post's through then I'm sure you can see he is having a go at the corporate bookmakers, not gambling itself.  As I said, I agree with your opinion, I just thought you had missed his main point.

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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2010, 07:10:03 PM »
fair enough
I am as slow as a wet week and respond to a post 500 posts later lol.  :thumbsup
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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2010, 07:28:16 PM »
fair enough
I am as slow as a wet week and respond to a post 500 posts later lol.  :thumbsup

 :lol  I fully get that!

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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2010, 10:08:29 PM »
jack after your post i dont know whether to jump for joy or cry.....re-the tabcorp announcement

Like it or not its the truth.
Cigeratte Advertising and sponsorships are banned in sports.
Give it 5 years and the likes of Betfair, Tabcorp, Luxbet, IAS etc etc. will be given the stuff as well.
Gambling is not welcomed in sport
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How on earth does betfair still  sponsors is beyond belief

rubbish, do you have any idea how much revenue gaming contributes to government coffers????...More likely limits put on alcohol advertising although Id doubt it...
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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2010, 10:39:29 PM »
Its amazing how many people have no idea.
betfair head office is overseas based.
And most corporate bookmakers operate out of Darwin due to regulations and tax concessions.
Betfair and Corporate Bookmakers contribute little back into the industries they make money out of.


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Re: Tabcorp joins Tigers’ Community (RFC)
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2010, 10:52:43 PM »
Its amazing how many people have no idea.
betfair head office is overseas based.
And most corporate bookmakers operate out of Darwin due to regulations and tax concessions.
Betfair and Corporate Bookmakers contribute little back into the industries they make money out of.


I think most of us have a very good idea Jack.  I don't think anyone is arguing the morals of your opinion, just the likelihood of the government changing it's attitude anytime soon.