Terry Wallace never had a chance: Miller (Herald-Sun)

[Penelope]

So who do you blame for "diabolical -just disgraceful" record from 1983 up until the Wallace-Miller years Ramps?

[TigerTimeII]

when they are both dead or admit they are effups

Then enjoy your ulcers lol 

did i ever mention i have ulcers , im as healthy as one can be
mind body and soul

[Infamy]

And just on you, Jack, anyone who knows you knows you can't keep a secret
You're a walking time bomb for any club
Why would they pay someone like that?

The club has more leaks than the titanic, fact- Most footyclubs do though
Havent been there for 3 years and know more about the place now than I did when I was there.
Aint  my fault the thing leaks like a siv.
You have to realise this, most players have best mates who play other clubs, thats a fact of life. They grew up with them and they sociallise outside football together.
What about last weeks leak, wanna blame me for that as well?
What about the circus mid year last year, want to blame me for that as well.
Move on.
T

What kind of excuse is that? Just because others leak info means you should leak it all over the internet?
That's like saying just because other people murder someone means you should go on a shooting spree

Allowing yourself to damage the club just because others do it is pathetic

[WA Tiger]

  , will Terry get any credit in a few years IF, IF, IF we win a flag and some of the players he recruited are still there??????????????????????????????? Idout it. Terry Wallace has gone get the hell over him FFS!!! Blame him for the rest of your life if you like it won't change anyhthing, move on.

[jackstar is back again]

And just on you, Jack, anyone who knows you knows you can't keep a secret
You're a walking time bomb for any club
Why would they pay someone like that?

The club has more leaks than the titanic, fact- Most footyclubs do though
Havent been there for 3 years and know more about the place now than I did when I was there.
Aint  my fault the thing leaks like a siv.
You have to realise this, most players have best mates who play other clubs, thats a fact of life. They grew up with them and they sociallise outside football together.
What about last weeks leak, wanna blame me for that as well?
What about the circus mid year last year, want to blame me for that as well.
Move on.
T

What kind of excuse is that? Just because others leak info means you should leak it all over the internet?
That's like saying just because other people murder someone means you should go on a shooting spree

Allowing yourself to damage the club just because others do it is pathetic

Mate my mail is usually 5th hand.
You internet nuffers have little idea

[jackstar is back again]

Another rubbish effort from someone whose record at Richmond doesnt stand up. He says outside influences- I say, the outside influences werent the ones who stuffed up the recruiting, they werent the ones who selected Oakley Nicholls or Hughes or Casserley or Meyer or Pattison or the rest, they werent the ones taking older experienced players like Kingsley. Just a rubbish piece to be honest. The supporters know the truth and this article is crap and everyone knows it.

POST OF THE DECADE. Thank you

[jackstar is back again]

well, you would want to get rid of some people still there then.
Hardwick already has problem.- he inheritted
The place needed a complete clean out which hasnt happened.
Even Doctor Death is still there

Then name them, Jack
In any organisation, if someone in a company is giving trade secrets away to opposition companies, you would have no hesitation in giving them the boot.

Its not about trade secrets.
Its all about losing CULTURE.
Apart from current coaches , the same support people are still there. whats the point, and furthermore, who on earth drafted Hicks, what a waste of pick, nothing against the kid, he would be 65kilos ringing wet
Hardwick should of started from scratch..
Still cant beleive the Doctor is still there, surely there would of been a review of his position, especially after the Richo and Cousins problems last years of sending players back on injured

[Smokey]

Its just total crap from someone who shouldnt be saying anything.

What part of it is crap?  Please point out anything he said that in your opinion is incorrect in fact.

[Infamy]

And just on you, Jack, anyone who knows you knows you can't keep a secret
You're a walking time bomb for any club
Why would they pay someone like that?

The club has more leaks than the titanic, fact- Most footyclubs do though
Havent been there for 3 years and know more about the place now than I did when I was there.
Aint  my fault the thing leaks like a siv.
You have to realise this, most players have best mates who play other clubs, thats a fact of life. They grew up with them and they sociallise outside football together.
What about last weeks leak, wanna blame me for that as well?
What about the circus mid year last year, want to blame me for that as well.
Move on.
T

What kind of excuse is that? Just because others leak info means you should leak it all over the internet?
That's like saying just because other people murder someone means you should go on a shooting spree

Allowing yourself to damage the club just because others do it is pathetic

Mate my mail is usually 5th hand.
You internet nuffers have little idea

Yet you keep saying your sources are "from the horses mouth"
Regarless, how does that justify it? You are by far the worst on the entire internet for posting negative news about the club.

Just SHUT UP!!!

[Ramps]

So who do you blame for "diabolical -just disgraceful" record from 1983 up until the Wallace-Miller years Ramps?

Look I dont have all day

but from 1983 to about 1985 I blame the administration for losing key players like Raines, Wood, Cloke
from 1983 to about 1990 I blame the recruiters for recruiting Collingwood players who werent up to it
I also blame them for leaving Richmond in a disastrous financial state resulting in Save our Skins
I blame the administration that ran Richmond for never properly completing any rebuild from 83 til now
I also blame them for sacking Bartlett who was trying to do the right thing by getting in youth
I blame the administration of the club that went from coach to coach through the 1990s Bartlett, Jeans, Northey, Walls etc etc.
I blame the administration for recruiting a coach like Danny Frawley - the fallacy of which was shown not only by the results attained over 5 years but by a back page of the herald sun that had the photographs of 10 candidates all crossed out with last man standing Frawley getting the job
I blame the administration for allowing frawley to go the quick fix after he the prelim.
I blame the administration under Clinton Casey for appointing Greg Miller to a job at Richmond and then getting him to sit on the board- just a disgraceful state of affairs where an employee was a board member that had to assess a CEO whilst the CEO had to the assess an employee who was on the board.
I blame the recruiters from 2004 who failed at the 2004 national draft and the subsequent drafts
I blame the administration for keeping Wallace to long

I would continue but I have things to do: but this is just a small summary of who I blame.

Thank god for the supporters and the coteries who kept our club alive during this time of disgraceful decision making, for buying memberships and merchandise and for keeping a great club alive! Its about the only thing we have going for us.

Lets hope March Gale Cameron and Hardwick can create a new Richmond. The Richmond we deserve!

[jackstar is back again]

So who do you blame for "diabolical -just disgraceful" record from 1983 up until the Wallace-Miller years Ramps?

Look I dont have all day

but from 1983 to about 1985 I blame the administration for losing key players like Raines, Wood, Cloke
from 1983 to about 1990 I blame the recruiters for recruiting Collingwood players who werent up to it
I also blame them for leaving Richmond in a disastrous financial state resulting in Save our Skins
I blame the administration that ran Richmond for never properly completing any rebuild from 83 til now
I also blame them for sacking Bartlett who was trying to do the right thing by getting in youth
I blame the administration of the club that went from coach to coach through the 1990s Bartlett, Jeans, Northey, Walls etc etc.
I blame the administration for recruiting a coach like Danny Frawley - the fallacy of which was shown not only by the results attained over 5 years but by a back page of the herald sun that had the photographs of 10 candidates all crossed out with last man standing Frawley getting the job
I blame the administration for allowing frawley to go the quick fix after he the prelim.
I blame the administration under Clinton Casey for appointing Greg Miller to a job at Richmond and then getting him to sit on the board- just a disgraceful state of affairs where an employee was a board member that had to assess a CEO whilst the CEO had to the assess an employee who was on the board.
I blame the recruiters from 2004 who failed at the 2004 national draft and the subsequent drafts
I blame the administration for keeping Wallace to long

I would continue but I have things to do: but this is just a small summary of who I blame.

Thank god for the supporters and the coteries who kept our club alive during this time of disgraceful decision making, for buying memberships and merchandise and for keeping a great club alive! Its about the only thing we have going for us.

Lets hope March Gale Cameron and Hardwick can create a new Richmond. The Richmond we deserve!

Ramps, we are on the same page my friend, pity people dont realise what the real issues are

[Smokey]

Ramps, we are on the same page my friend, pity people dont realise what the real issues are

The trouble is Jack, up until this post you have both been trying to lay the blame at the feet of Miller and Wallace and now this post serves to highlight what we are all trying to say - there were/are a large number of reasons and to single out Miller or Wallace is just not fair, regardless of what you think of them personally.

[jackstar is back again]

Ramps, we are on the same page my friend, pity people dont realise what the real issues are

The trouble is Jack, up until this post you have both been trying to lay the blame at the feet of Miller and Wallace and now this post serves to highlight what we are all trying to say - there were/are a large number of reasons and to single out Miller or Wallace is just not fair, regardless of what you think of them personally.

Hey hold on a minute, both "'feathered  there own nest.""
Wallace should of been gone after end of year 2
Players were peeed right off then
I dont care what anyone says, the axing of Kellaway and Gaspar caused a huge rift at punt road.
And more importantly , you lose 2 people who bled for the yellow and black.
Cant say the same about Miller and Wallace.

[Infamy]

I dont care what anyone says, the axing of Kellaway and Gaspar caused a huge rift at punt road.
And more importantly , you lose 2 people who bled for the yellow and black.

I don't care what anyone says, it was the right move
Gaspar only got to keep his spot on the list as he was a veteran and with no one else eligible he was a "free" player
Kellaway was unlucky that he hadn't played for 10 years to be a veteran and we needed to clear space for kids

[jackstar is back again]

I dont care what anyone says, the axing of Kellaway and Gaspar caused a huge rift at punt road.
And more importantly , you lose 2 people who bled for the yellow and black.

I don't care what anyone says, it was the right move
Gaspar only got to keep his spot on the list as he was a veteran and with no one else eligible he was a "free" player
Kellaway was unlucky that he hadn't played for 10 years to be a veteran and we needed to clear space for kids

I am sick to death with discussinng topics with idiots.
We have a culture problem at Punt Road.
Supporters dont realise that both Gas and Chubber had mentoring roles at the footy club, like it or not.
Gas was the most popular player down there ( besides Richo )
All the players looked up to Gas, he was made scapegoat when the team lost 5 in a row, so Wallace took the long knife out and used it.
The Chubber axing was even worse and left a bad taste in everyones mouth.
You dont treat servants at the club like that.
You wouldnt find two better individuals than Gas and Chubber
Thus is the one of many reasons for Benny Gale appointed CEO to ensure the culture is changed..

You make me laugh Infamy as you say the Chubber was moved on to make way for the kids, LOL
You have no idea