Can anyone answer this

[TigerRocket]

Guys if my memory serves me Carazzo was a tagger in his early days, didn't he win a Carlton B&F (not that that is important to us it probably means he can play a bit!1)

The real thing that worries me is what the hell is his opponent doing??

I posted just after the match on Thursday about our inability to run to space, our players just look 'LAZY' the number of times players have the ball in defence and look to find standing standing on the spot 'waving their hands' instead of running to open space simply amazes me.

One final point, I recall our backline with Thursfield, Moore and McGuane played some pretty good football a couple of seasons ago when they were allowed to settle into their roles over a number of games .... let's do the same with Dan Connors and Tich Edwards and fiddle with the rest of the team and see where it gets us?

[tugga]

Have to say Carrazzo isnt a top liner, not even close. The only reason why he is allowed to run around on his own and collect 40 possessions is because he turns it over worse than Tuck. Infact come to think of it Tuck and Carrazzo are not too dissimilar, neither would get a game in a top line team.

Correct. That's why teams allow Daniel Jackson to collect his 25-plus possessions per game. Simpson is a good-ordinary player. Carazzo slightly better, but neither are stars.

[blaisee]

Have to say Carrazzo isnt a top liner, not even close. The only reason why he is allowed to run around on his own and collect 40 possessions is because he turns it over worse than Tuck. Infact come to think of it Tuck and Carrazzo are not too dissimilar, neither would get a game in a top line team.

Correct. That's why teams allow Daniel Jackson to collect his 25-plus possessions per game. Simpson is a good-ordinary player. Carazzo slightly better, but neither are stars.

you are right about jackson. Players that do not hurt the opposition with their skills are zoned off and allowed to get the ball. Carazzo would not get a game with a topline team.

[jackstar is back again]

Carazzo was a runaway winner of the B & F in 2007 you will find.
Beat the likes of Waite , Stevens ,Fev and Simpson

[tugga]

Carazzo was a runaway winner of the B & F in 2007 you will find.
Beat the likes of Waite , Stevens ,Fev and Simpson

Nick Daffy won a B&F with us. What's your point?

[blaisee]

Carazzo was a runaway winner of the B & F in 2007 you will find.
Beat the likes of Waite , Stevens ,Fev and Simpson

Daniel Jackson came 2nd last year so what?

Interesting you point out 2007, Carazzo's stellar B+F winning year

That year the blues had four wins up to round 11 and lost 11 in a row in the most blatant act of tanking in the history of the AFL, it was of course surpassed ( as a tannking achievement ) by Melbourne FC last year but that is another story,


however I digress, back to carazzo and 2007.

Yes Carazzo did beat out Fevola for the 2007 B+F but Fev was injured all year and scored the least amount of goals he has scored in the last 7 years in 2007.

And true, he did beat out Nick Stevens for the 2007 best and fairest award at carlton but you left out a very interesting fact, Stevens only played 3 games, FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

Carazzo had 569 possessions in 2007 and the blues won 4 games. Last year when the blues made the finals for the first time since 2001, he was only selected to play in 15 games and had more than 200 possies less than in 2007. That is not a coincidence, you cant carry players in your team that cant kick if you are a top line team. If the blues are any good this year, carrazzo wont be starting on the ball, that is for sure.


Nothing against carrazzo of course but he is a battler that turns it over, nowhere near a top liner, not even close.

[jackstar is back again]

Fev kicked 50 odd for the year

[jackstar is back again]

Carazzo was a runaway winner of the B & F in 2007 you will find.
Beat the likes of Waite , Stevens ,Fev and Simpson

Daniel Jackson came 2nd last year so what?

Interesting you point out 2007, Carazzo's stellar B+F winning year

That year the blues had four wins up to round 11 and lost 11 in a row in the most blatant act of tanking in the history of the AFL, it was of course surpassed ( as a tannking achievement ) by Melbourne FC last year but that is another story,


however I digress, back to carazzo and 2007.

Yes Carazzo did beat out Fevola for the 2007 B+F but Fev was injured all year and scored the least amount of goals he has scored in the last 7 years in 2007.

And true, he did beat out Nick Stevens for the 2007 best and fairest award at carlton but you left out a very interesting fact, Stevens only played 3 games, FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

Carazzo had 569 possessions in 2007 and the blues won 4 games. Last year when the blues made the finals for the first time since 2001, he was only selected to play in 15 games and had more than 200 possies less than in 2007. That is not a coincidence, you cant carry players in your team that cant kick if you are a top line team. If the blues are any good this year, carrazzo wont be starting on the ball, that is for sure.


Nothing against carrazzo of course but he is a battler that turns it over, nowhere near a top liner, not even close.

Sorry, got mixed up with Heath Scotland and not Stevens.
Carazzo actually got 11 votes in the Brownlow as well.
Not bad from a player who team won 4-5 games for the year, dont you think

[Tigermonk]

Anyone saying Carrazzo is not a good top line footballer is a idiot
he tore us up Thursday night & his a consistant ball getter & if you watch the replay you see him doing just that destroying us.
He also gathers alot of possies against good sides
If he said he wanted to come to Richmond you pricks would be screaming for him

[Ramps]

id be against it ... ive always reckoned he was an average player

[jackstar is back again]

id be against it ... ive always reckoned he was an average player

Can tell you we tagged BOTH in previous years ( simpson and Carazzo )
We didnt tag either last thursday night

[Tigermonk]

id be against it ... ive always reckoned he was an average player

average players dont rack up 30 & 40 possies consistantly
gathering that many possies tells you something that his doing the workrate that our players dont do
l think Carrazzo acheivements in football tells you the story

l was stunned watching the replay this arvo that McGuane stopped after giving off the ball & he had not moved a inch when the ball came past him again & he hardly moved then, thats totally unexceptable & l hope his ass gets kicked back to Coburg seconds & Gourdis is giving his place for at least 6 weeks

[Tigermonk]

id be against it ... ive always reckoned he was an average player

Can tell you we tagged BOTH in previous years ( simpson and Carazzo )
We didnt tag either last thursday night

Jackstar is very obvious that we are talking to idiots who dont watch the game like we do

[blaisee]

id be against it ... ive always reckoned he was an average player

average players dont rack up 30 & 40 possies consistantly

really ?, in the modern game it is only half ( less than half of the equation )

Tuck gets 30 possessions a week and cant get a game with a bottom two side like ours. Furthermore he was offered for trade for anything ( and I mean anything even a 5th round draft pick we would of taken ) and nobody wanted him.
The reason why is that he coughs it up. Just like Carrazzo.

[jackstar is back again]

id be against it ... ive always reckoned he was an average player

Can tell you we tagged BOTH in previous years ( simpson and Carazzo )
We didnt tag either last thursday night

Jackstar is very obvious that we are talking to idiots who dont watch the game like we do

Mate , we are the idiots, why ? Discussing it was absolute nuffers who have little idea.