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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2010, 11:32:38 PM »
Luckily never had a real bad experience flying. The worst thing was gaining a whole heap of Ansett fly-by points while OS yet back home Ansett went under :P. Have flown by Qantas to Sydney and back a few times and flew Singapore Airlines to Singapore and Frankfurt with no probs. S.A. were very good. A Lufthansa domestic in Germany from Frankfurt to Berlin was delayed an hour but the pilot somehow made up 30 mins in the air and thumping the wheels on the tarmac. The pilot was speaking German over the PA so I was totally oblivious to what was going on lol.
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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2010, 08:53:52 AM »

Will explain.
they have the highest turnover of staff its laughable
Staff are forced to sign contracts, that state the following, any training that the company has performed will have to be repaid within a three year period if you resign or leave.
I have known staff that have been forced to pay over $3000
The shift work and hours of pay are laughable.
Staff only get paid for "time in the sky"
If a plane break downs or they cant fly, you dont get paid.
therefore they have staff sitting around airports around australia due to storms, mechnical failures, strikes etc not getting paid.

Repayment of training is standard in many businesses surely Jack?  Its called a ROSO (Return Of Service Obligation) in the military but its prevalent in a lot of businesses nowadays.  And I can't conceive that in this country in an industry as heavily union influenced as the aviation industry with its regulated salary awards/conditions that the conditions you describe above can possibly exist.  Do you know this for a fact or as a third party indication?  Sounds quite implausible to me but I don't know the facts so I'm open to be shown the reality (if it is the reality).

straight from the horses mouth.
The issue with not paying downtime when there is delays causes a high turnover of staff

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2010, 09:13:14 AM »

Will explain.
they have the highest turnover of staff its laughable
Staff are forced to sign contracts, that state the following, any training that the company has performed will have to be repaid within a three year period if you resign or leave.
I have known staff that have been forced to pay over $3000
The shift work and hours of pay are laughable.
Staff only get paid for "time in the sky"
If a plane break downs or they cant fly, you dont get paid.
therefore they have staff sitting around airports around australia due to storms, mechnical failures, strikes etc not getting paid.

Repayment of training is standard in many businesses surely Jack?  Its called a ROSO (Return Of Service Obligation) in the military but its prevalent in a lot of businesses nowadays.  And I can't conceive that in this country in an industry as heavily union influenced as the aviation industry with its regulated salary awards/conditions that the conditions you describe above can possibly exist.  Do you know this for a fact or as a third party indication?  Sounds quite implausible to me but I don't know the facts so I'm open to be shown the reality (if it is the reality).

Since running my own business i'm out of the loop on these matters, so to speak, but I'd never heard of such a thing as a ROSO, smokey. Im not surprised that it occurs in the the Military though, but I'm not sure how prevalant it would be in the wider community.

The airline industry isn't as unionised as you may think. Virgin is largely (wholly?) a non union workforce, being deliberately set up that way from the start. I don't know about Tiger but if they have ROSOs then I doubt they would be. Last year i flew back into Darwin to be greeted by an electrical storm, which meant the Baggage handlers would not go out into the open so we had nearly a hour delay waiting to collect our luggage. I was told by a staff member that Quantas/Jetstar staff would not go out when there was lightning about but Tiger and Virgin staff had to. This indicates to me that Tiger is also a non unionised workforce.
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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2010, 08:17:37 PM »

Will explain.
they have the highest turnover of staff its laughable
Staff are forced to sign contracts, that state the following, any training that the company has performed will have to be repaid within a three year period if you resign or leave.
I have known staff that have been forced to pay over $3000
The shift work and hours of pay are laughable.
Staff only get paid for "time in the sky"
If a plane break downs or they cant fly, you dont get paid.
therefore they have staff sitting around airports around australia due to storms, mechnical failures, strikes etc not getting paid.

Repayment of training is standard in many businesses surely Jack?  Its called a ROSO (Return Of Service Obligation) in the military but its prevalent in a lot of businesses nowadays.  And I can't conceive that in this country in an industry as heavily union influenced as the aviation industry with its regulated salary awards/conditions that the conditions you describe above can possibly exist.  Do you know this for a fact or as a third party indication?  Sounds quite implausible to me but I don't know the facts so I'm open to be shown the reality (if it is the reality).

Since running my own business i'm out of the loop on these matters, so to speak, but I'd never heard of such a thing as a ROSO, smokey. Im not surprised that it occurs in the the Military though, but I'm not sure how prevalant it would be in the wider community.

The airline industry isn't as unionised as you may think. Virgin is largely (wholly?) a non union workforce, being deliberately set up that way from the start. I don't know about Tiger but if they have ROSOs then I doubt they would be. Last year i flew back into Darwin to be greeted by an electrical storm, which meant the Baggage handlers would not go out into the open so we had nearly a hour delay waiting to collect our luggage. I was told by a staff member that Quantas/Jetstar staff would not go out when there was lightning about but Tiger and Virgin staff had to. This indicates to me that Tiger is also a non unionised workforce.

not so true there Al. Wife has worked at Virgin for the last 7 years and it is a Union workforce but a very weak one.

Jack is absolutely spot on about Tiger. Their staff are forced to work 15 hour shifts putting the wider community at risk.
I remember my cousin who worked at Tiger once told me she fell asleep on the aircraft after working 15 hours straight.

Just the right type of people you want looking after you if poo hit the fan.

Virgin will be the new Qantas within 5 years. Virgin as you now see it will not exist complete change of name and business class and staff to wear ties and vests. They are going corporate. Woman will still look good though.
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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2010, 09:14:48 PM »
Totally agree Daniel
I believe Virgin change there image as early as Jan 1st?
New corporate colors etc

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2010, 04:29:06 PM »
are we getting sponsors or what?

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2010, 06:20:49 PM »
are we getting sponsors or what?

Which page haven't you read torch?

If you go back to page 3 I think you will find that the club are saying it will be sooner rather than later
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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2010, 06:34:10 PM »
are we getting sponsors or what?

yes we are. big rumour is the next RFC major sponsor is not JB HiFi or Reject Shop but the mammoth conglomeration called

tariffsgiftshop.com.au  :lol

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2010, 07:20:06 PM »
Ramps, how much you tipping in son ?

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2010, 07:21:55 PM »
Ramps, how much you tipping in son ?

LOL ... Unfortunately Jacko, Tariffs hasnt worked out so Im actually gonna close it down after Christmas, Ive reduced all the prices now, some stuff is below cost as well.

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2010, 07:25:47 PM »
sorry to here, you should have the 2 woman on the front page wearing bikinis, traffic will go through the roof :thumbsup

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2010, 07:41:53 PM »
sorry to here, you should have the 2 woman on the front page wearing bikinis, traffic will go through the roof :thumbsup

Thats alright Jacko- Gave it a go, didnt work out, Life goes on! Theres plenty of people in world doing worse than most of us in here thats for sure.

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2010, 08:30:09 PM »
sorry to here, you should have the 2 woman on the front page wearing bikinis, traffic will go through the roof :thumbsup

Thats alright Jacko- Gave it a go, didnt work out, Life goes on! Theres plenty of people in world doing worse than most of us in here thats for sure.

yeah you had a crack but with all the cashmere in there i was about to start calling you gramps :lol, the only thing missing was the brass buttoned blazer and a matching set of flannels...is it still going ???
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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2010, 09:02:53 PM »
sorry to here, you should have the 2 woman on the front page wearing bikinis, traffic will go through the roof :thumbsup

Thats alright Jacko- Gave it a go, didnt work out, Life goes on! Theres plenty of people in world doing worse than most of us in here thats for sure.

exactly doesn't hurt trying. I tell you though ramps the quality of merch over in the U.S is so cheap its not funny.

My cousin is in a band and he buys music equipment quitars etc etc for less than $500 usd and sells over here for $2k plus

Clothing and electrical would be just as cheap over there.

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Re: Richmond New Major Sponsor/s is are?
« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2010, 09:14:46 PM »
I just bought something Ramps ;)

Good present for xmas.