Grigg's better than tambling ever was or will be and an upgrade on collins. He's an upgrade and comfortably in our best 18 - stuff me some people expect a starting 18 of bonafide superstars
Grigg is a 25 to 30 player in a good list. If hes in our best 22 then we have a long long long way to go still.
Who has been suggesting anything else?
We do have a long way to go. Jake King, Matthew White and even Daniel Jackson are in our best 22.
I don't understand this conversation?
If you want Hartley to draft in Chris Judd, Aaron Sandilands and Lance Franklin. Be prepared to be happy but give up Martin, Cotchin, Riewoldt and more.
Collins for Grigg was trade where we won out of. What else is needed to be said.
If we trade Nick Westhoff for a bit parts depth player, its another win.
We don't have to judge a list manager on the "big fish" trades and recruits.